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Identify this snake...

Posted By: Paparon

Identify this snake... - 04/21/13 03:56 PM

I'm pretty sure I found it on the internet but what do you think it is? I saw several of these snakes swimming in the lake while I was fishing Sat on another gorgeous day!



Caught this 3.35 lber to top off my day!

Posted By: MikeSouza

Re: Identify this snake... - 04/21/13 05:17 PM

Broad banded water snake?
Posted By: Huckleberry

Re: Identify this snake... - 04/21/13 05:27 PM

Hard to tell exactly but positively not poisonous.
Posted By: banker-always fishing

Re: Identify this snake... - 04/21/13 06:32 PM

I am know snake expert as for identification but it looks like a water snake. hmmm Also nice Fish. cheers
Posted By: BassinButch

Re: Identify this snake... - 04/21/13 08:17 PM

Nice fish
Posted By: fishmagnet

Re: Identify this snake... - 04/21/13 08:38 PM

Nice catch on a nice day!
Posted By: Jared D.

Re: Identify this snake... - 04/21/13 10:29 PM

Not like any of the common water snakes I find in DFW area. Definitely not poisonous though. Cant tell from the picture what species though. Pope will probably be able to tell you
Posted By: Pope1

Re: Identify this snake... - 04/22/13 11:02 PM

Originally Posted By: MikeSouza
Broad banded water snake?


Yes. Jared's right. These are more common south and east of DFW.
Posted By: Pope1

Re: Identify this snake... - 04/22/13 11:03 PM

Nice spotted bass too.
Posted By: Fish Killer

Re: Identify this snake... - 04/23/13 09:57 PM

Originally Posted By: Pope1
Nice spotted bass too.

Spotted Bass?
Posted By: MHawk82

Re: Identify this snake... - 04/24/13 01:14 AM

Pope: I've asked other friends, some herpetologists, about the truth of a non-venomous having the head above water whereas the venomous would have the body on top of the water. Just want your .02c on that. I've seen venomous species dive from shore, but have never seen them resurface and swim.

Thanks,
Mike
Posted By: Pope1

Re: Identify this snake... - 04/24/13 02:29 AM

Do a google search for cottonmouths swimming. When they swim, they will inflate and angle their heads upwards. Their heads will be completely out of the water. Their body will be on top of the water and if they pause, they float. This is true for rattlesnakes and copperheads (pit vipers) as well.
I have seen cottonmouths submerge themselves in shallow water, but not swim under the water. When you see other snakes swimming with their heads above water, 90% of their body will be just under the surface and their heads will be barely out of the water.
Posted By: Pope1

Re: Identify this snake... - 04/24/13 01:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Fish Killer
Originally Posted By: Pope1
Nice spotted bass too.

Spotted Bass?


It looks like it has some horizontal striping on its belly, but it isn't too definite. You're probably right and it's not a spot. Pretty fish.
Posted By: RHORHO

Re: Identify this snake... - 04/24/13 01:54 PM

Lived on Cow Bayou near the Texas/Louisiana border growing up .... poisonous snakes swim .....
Posted By: crapicat

Re: Identify this snake... - 04/24/13 02:11 PM

Originally Posted By: RHORHO
Lived on Cow Bayou near the Texas/Louisiana border growing up .... poisonous snakes swim .....


Yes, and cotton mouths can bite under water, as well. What I hate about cotton mouths, is their willingness to drop out of a tree into your boat all the while copping an attitude...little load of ratshot deals with that attitude though.

Largest rattler (timber rattler) I ever killed was lying on the bottom of our duck pond about 6 inches deep. After that first .22 cal hit him he swam for the opposite side bank...it was a fiasco getting him dead, ran out of shells, broke my stock on him, nearly got bit, finally got a shovel on his head...ended up being 7'3" without his head and 5" of neck.
Posted By: YakFishField

Re: Identify this snake... - 04/24/13 02:27 PM

Originally Posted By: Pope1
Do a google search for cottonmouths swimming. When they swim, they will inflate and angle their heads upwards. Their heads will be completely out of the water. Their body will be on top of the water and if they pause, they float. This is true for rattlesnakes and copperheads (pit vipers) as well.
I have seen cottonmouths submerge themselves in shallow water, but not swim under the water. When you see other snakes swimming with their heads above water, 90% of their body will be just under the surface and their heads will be barely out of the water.


So if the snake is mostly submerged, I can relax a little?

I fish out my kayak, so snakes swimming is a much bigger issue for us than for guys in a boat, and I know very little about snakes in general except that I don't like them, haha.
Posted By: Jared D.

Re: Identify this snake... - 04/24/13 02:43 PM

Here is a video I took about 2 years ago of two Cottonmouths fighting in the water.

Posted By: Masterboater26

Re: Identify this snake... - 04/24/13 04:09 PM

those snakes are mating not fighting
Posted By: Jared D.

Re: Identify this snake... - 04/24/13 04:36 PM

Originally Posted By: Masterboater26
those snakes are mating not fighting


I have been told both ways by reputable people. I believe it is two males fighting over a female. It is very common for snakes to battle this way.
Posted By: Huckleberry

Re: Identify this snake... - 04/24/13 04:38 PM

NOT A SPOT...LARGEMOUTH
Posted By: roadtrip

Re: Identify this snake... - 04/24/13 05:12 PM

Pope, is a water moccasin always a cottonmouth?
Posted By: Jared D.

Re: Identify this snake... - 04/24/13 05:58 PM

Cottonmouth is the nickname people have given the Water Moccasin. Kind of like the Flathead catfish is called names like Yella cat, shovelnose etc.
Posted By: timwins31

Re: Identify this snake... - 04/25/13 04:05 PM

Banded water snake.
Posted By: Chuck Sheridan

Re: Identify this snake... - 04/26/13 03:22 PM

Banded water snake but some old timers round me call em fish moccasin's...
Posted By: barndoor

Re: Identify this snake... - 04/26/13 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by Jared D.
Here is a video I took about 2 years ago of two Cottonmouths fighting in the water.



You were pretty dam close, did you kill them?
Posted By: barndoor

Re: Identify this snake... - 04/26/13 03:48 PM

Looks like a cottonmouth hybrid to me.
Posted By: flybug

Re: Identify this snake... - 04/26/13 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by barndoor
Originally Posted by Jared D.
Here is a video I took about 2 years ago of two Cottonmouths fighting in the water.



You were pretty dam close, did you kill them?


ok... why should he have to kill um was he going to eat them, and 2 they were no threat to him they had a lot more pressing matters on their mind. Still though unless your gonna eat it don't kill it just because its venomous or because its "scarey" that just aint right
Posted By: kdub#1

Re: Identify this snake... - 04/26/13 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by flybug
Originally Posted by barndoor
Originally Posted by Jared D.
Here is a video I took about 2 years ago of two Cottonmouths fighting in the water.



You were pretty dam close, did you kill them?


ok... why should he have to kill um was he going to eat them, and 2 they were no threat to him they had a lot more pressing matters on their mind. Still though unless your gonna eat it don't kill it just because its venomous or because its "scarey" that just aint right



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Posted By: flybug

Re: Identify this snake... - 04/26/13 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by kdub#1
Originally Posted by flybug
Originally Posted by barndoor
Originally Posted by Jared D.
Here is a video I took about 2 years ago of two Cottonmouths fighting in the water.



You were pretty dam close, did you kill them?


ok... why should he have to kill um was he going to eat them, and 2 they were no threat to him they had a lot more pressing matters on their mind. Still though unless your gonna eat it don't kill it just because its venomous or because its "scarey" that just aint right



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hows that make me a hippy? like seriously do you go around telling everyone if it has scale and slithers shoot it? cause if so thats a horrible way to think I may as well say lets outlaw fishing poles give everyone dynamite and tell them to fish that way because fish give some people the willies
Posted By: kdub#1

Re: Identify this snake... - 04/26/13 05:46 PM

Those are cottonmouths. I'll tell you what, you let them go. I'll kill them. I won't kill every snake I see, but I definitely make a point to kill cottonmouths. I just have no use for them where myself, others, or my dog might run into one. Kill it and eat it, is a good thought for many animals but does not always apply. But to say it's messed up to kill a cottonmouth is too bleeding heart for me. Sorry bud.
Posted By: Jared D.

Re: Identify this snake... - 04/26/13 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by barndoor
Originally Posted by Jared D.
Here is a video I took about 2 years ago of two Cottonmouths fighting in the water.



You were pretty dam close, did you kill them?


I was about 3 feet from them at the end and they never even noticed me.

Na, snakes dont bother me and I dont kill anything just because its poisonous. I relocate if needed. And these were in a creek in the middle of no where outside of Austin not bother no one. I spotted them driving over a bridge about 200 yards up the creek. It was pure luck I even saw them.
Posted By: Derek 🐝

Re: Identify this snake... - 04/27/13 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by Jared D.
Here is a video I took about 2 years ago of two Cottonmouths fighting in the water.



Great video Jared! Looks like maybe they were fighting over breeding rights.
Posted By: Paparon

Re: Identify this snake... - 04/29/13 11:13 PM

Originally Posted By: MikeSouza
Broad banded water snake?

I believe that's correct, a Nerodia fasciata confluens!
Posted By: mjmetro0719

Re: Identify this snake... - 04/30/13 02:03 AM

Nice fish
Posted By: hawlinbass

Re: Identify this snake... - 05/07/13 05:22 AM

In my book the only good snake is a dead one.
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