Tundra to replace my Ford

Looking at new Fords. 50K New Tundra 42K. Think I might go with Toyota.

Anything I need to worry about?


Barry

Gas stations

Toyota builds far superior 1/2 truck than ford. I'm a fan of yota products.

You might miss spending time in the dealer service department if you get a Tundra.

just that the tundra is butt ugly.

I guess that's why ford made their most recent body style look like a 2008 Tundra

That's my only complaint for the last year

As opposed to say... elbow ugly?

This. Anything other than the 6.7 Powerstroke and New Torino is junk.

to be fair, it's not honda ridgeline ugly.

8k plus the thousands more the Toyota will be worth when you get rid of it will buy LOTS of gas.

I am on my second one and have had no issues.The gas mileage around town is not that much off from the others.Spend the few extra bucks and get the 5.7.

The numbers used in financing it.

I am a little surprised that you can find one cheaper than the Ford. If you can find a 2017 you can probably get a great deal on one.

0 for 60 months!

The Tundras run significantly less than Fords. My 2015 5.7 1794 edition stickered at 45,200. I can't remember what the King Ranch Ford was running back then but if memory serves me right it was pushing 55-56 after rebates.

Seriously do a KBB value search on your current truck and then do the exact same search on a Tundra. You'll make your mind up quickly, as long as you don't think the Tundra is butt ugly.

I went thru the same things with numbers in 2013 when I was considering a Ford with eco boost...Toyota with similar equipment was cheaper

Or maybe the MADE IN TEXAS ADDITION...which is all of them

And Tundras hold their value better IMO.

Yea his jokes are never good

that joke bombed before it got nuked by the others.

Since I have a quarter million on my 07 tundra, (Everything is still original other than the battery, the starter..... 2 brake jobs and 4 sets of tires) I think I am more than qualified to say the tundra is a no brainer. No more Fords for me. I have driven them all and I can honestly say nothing even comes close to the quality you get in a tundra. And besides, the tundra is made right here in Texas.

If the Ford is $8k more, you're either looking only at MSRP instead of actual sale price or you're not looking at equivalently equipped trucks. Actual sale price of a Ford & Toyota equipped the same - the Toyota should always be higher.

Ford makes a nice truck. Neither the Ford or the Toyota will likely be very fuel efficient. Depending on what motor you get, the Ford will be either the same or a little better. Toyotas all drink the gas, which wouldn't be much fun if gas goes back to $4 or more a gallon.

Pretty much sums up my experience as well.

Tranny acting weird right now but it has 276,000 HARD miles on it. Think mine was made in Tennessee.

How quickly you have forgotten,............................

+1. Not unusual for Ford to have a $10k plus discount off MSRP.

And for those that say "i've got ___,000k on my truck, and it's just like it was new"

That's bull-hit. Don't believe them.

I've got 15k on my truck, and it's just like it was new

Salesman here at work bought a new 2016 Tundra 1794 edition, has been in and out of shop constantly, but I've never heard anyone else having his kinds of problems.

New 2017 Ford F-150 XL
Mileage: Stock #: H2328
Twin Turbo Regular Unleaded V-6 2.7 L/164, MPG City: 18 MPG Hwy: 23***, 4DR, Shadow Black Exterior, Black Interior, 6-Speed Automatic w/OD


Reed's Price $35,925


that is also a 4x4 with the fx4 pkg

I'm on my second Tundra. I had a 2010 but a butt head partner sunk it at the ramp with 67/k on it. They do not float very well. I now have a 2014 Tundra SR5 TSS edition (lower end model as I don't like leather seats), Crew Cab with 5.7 engine. It is thirsty. On highway (long trip not towing) it got 17 MPG. Towing I'm lucky to get 11. Driving around town maybe 12-14. Just replaced tires at 67/K. Everything else has just been routine maintenance.

I've heard that the Tundra will pass everything on the road except a gas station. But then again, you don't buy a truck for fuel economy.

A lariat F150 4x4 MSRP is 56k
A limited Tundra 4x4 MSRP is 48K

Ford has about 10k worth of rebates, Tundra has 4k.

Forgot to mention. My first Tundra replaced a P.O.S. 2002 Ford F150. I had nothing but trouble with that truck. A lady finally put me out of my misery when she ran a red light and totaled the Ford. The repair list was long for my Ford. I think the worst was transmission went out at 26/K. Under warranty but still. After I got it back from the shop they suggested I not tow with the truck!? I asked if they meant there was a break-in period for the new transmission and they said no just they did not recommend towing with it.

At this time their big advertisement as their truck had best towing ability in it's class. Should have asked what class was that, the P.O.S. class.

I want one that will float.

I have a 2015 Tundra TSS 5.7 and it's a beast. I agree with what some have said. You don't but a truck for fuel economy, but I know others do get better mileage. I've drug my Champion all over Texas and up to Mo without any issue and it doesn't care the boat is back there.

If you think it's ugly, then that your opinion and you can get something you like the looks of, but personally I like mine.

I'd buy it again.

So your ex 15 year old truck is applicable how?

Had a tranny go out on my 1977 Chevy...never buy a GM again. *Insert sarcasm*

A v6 who wants that junk

Million mile Tundra

True

Tundra plant in San Antonio...trannies/motors possibly Tennessee..dont know

Maybe you can ask a Cummins owner.

Maybe because the transmission went out at 26k miles?

These truck threads are always fun. Kinda like you guys are in jr.high.

As long as Nissan is making the new Titan, no other truck will be the called "the ugliest truck". They have a lock.

I tend to agree.

I kinda like 'em.

I'm rubber and you're glue. What bounces off me sticks to you.

4 models and trannies ago? Had 3 jeep trannies go out, too. That was 1994. Won't buy those either.

These threads are stupid.

Yet you're following it.

Lol

This is the OT version of Ranger or Skeeter.

Hello.

We get it, you're Mr Ford. He doesn't like them because it was a POS. Ironically his story is very similar to my experience with ford and I refuse to buy another regardless of how long ago it was. I don't have a Tundra but my wife has driven multiple yota products and none of them have ever been in the shop for more than an oil change or new tires. Toyota products are far superior to anything ford produces.

We bought a Lexus. It's ghey.

Does this belong here in the Yota thread?

Still driving a 2003 tundra with 218k on it, 4 wheel drive, deer lease and boat pulling, I replaced the thermostat two months ago,it froze up, that's the only maintenance that I have had to do besides the normal stuff, nothing has failed on this truck, water pumps, starters, nothing, so I keep driving a 2003 tundra

Only if it has 20" rims

No Jay. Trying to show you the fallacy of your asinine arguments. I have a Jeep in the garage. Never bashed the Toyota. Had great luck with Ford.

I guess maybe I could type it slower to explain why I and others will never again buy a ford, but you still won't understand. I'll make it simple for you.......I'll continue to buy products that have proven to be better over ones that suck. There is that simple enough?

I traded my 08 Dodge 2500 Mega Cab, 4wd with the Cummins and a mere 188k on a new Tundra 3 weeks ago. This is without a doubt the best truck I've ever owned. I loved the beast but spent the last 3 years trying to get the AC to work right. Got tired of it. Still, the Tundra is a better truck.

By all means, please type slower and explain why you will no longer purchase products that are no longer manufactured.

I had a Tundra in 2008 and loved it. I downsized when my daughter was born for a few years and had small boats and v6 powered suv's.

When I got my new boat this year and decided I was getting one that needed a v8 to tow with I got a new 2017 Tundra. I love this one as much as I did the 08. This one is a Crewmax and the amount of room in the backseat is insane. I also put an ARE topper on it and am enjoying having it on there as well. The 37 gal tank that comes with the 5.7 is a nice addition.

I have zero complaints about the truck.

Trucks in general are just better now. My dad's 2013 Tundra was light years ahead of my 2004 Silverado. My 2016 Ram is nicer than his Tundra in nearly every way. I think nearly all of the big manufacturers make pretty good truck nowadays.

This comes from a Chevy guy who doesn't really like Ford, bought a Ram because it gets 30+ mpg highway, and respects Toyota reliability and resale while hating the efficiency.

I'm a Chevy driver that identifies as a Ford driver.

Other than Year model problems they all have had and will have, today's trucks are all pretty good. It's more a matter of personal preference than quality anymore.

lol of course it is. It's 9 years newer.


I'm thinking this will never end.

If my Ram had a back power sliding glass to throw cheeseburger wrappers out of I'd be happy too.

I bought my Crewmax Tundra new January 2012 with 8 miles on it. It currently has 170K.

New tires at 60k (Toyo AT2) 275/65/18's. Pretty certain that is the stock size that came on it, just changed brands and went to an all-terrain)
Serpentine belt at 80k. Had it replaced at the dealership while getting the oil changed
Spark plugs and battery at 140k
New tires at 150k (Toyo AT2)
New brakes all the way around at 160k

That's a complete list of what/when I've worked on the truck. My next truck will be a Tundra and I'm a big believer in those Toyo AT2 tires. 170k miles on her and I've only bought 2 sets of tires.

Never seen equally equipped Yota cheaper than a Ford. Fords price may be high but also way more rebates and sales than Yota. Yota is a beast for sure and solid truck but horrible gas mileage. Ride in both and buy what ya like. I'm a Ford guy and always will be but if I weren't I might drive a Yota.

Tundra needs a refresh. Getting a little long in the tooth. And I heard they are dropping the 5.7 with the new remodel.

Comparing gas mileage in a truck is like comparing towing capacity in a hybrid.

I got a new F-150 with 23000 miles on it, it's just like brand new. Except it's in the shop right now getting it's THIRD engine put in.

I doubt they will drop the 5.7...I do think different tranny with more gears..it has been long over due for more than a refresh....same platform since 2007

Why mess with perfection

Let's just assume the average truck owner keeps their truck for 150,000 miles. Some keep them more, some keep them less, but that's probably somewhere around the average. If gas is $2.50 a gallon, the Tundra getting 15 mpg costs you $25,000 in fuel. The Ram Ecodiesel getting 26 mpg costs you $14,423 in fuel. If you guys want to throw away $10k in fuel to support the Exxon CEO, go ahead. But I'd rather keep my money in my pocket. And by the way, that number just gets higher as gas gets more expensive.

I have 21k miles on my Ram, so I look at it as already being about $1500 ahead of where I'd be if I'd bought a Tundra. I like Toyotas, but their lack of efficiency is a real cost that owners have to be willing to absorb. I'm not when there are other options that are nearly twice as good.

Da Lexus flexes from Long Beach to Texas.

Dodge really isn't even on the conversation.

True but was having trouble defining ways to enhance perfection..

Those sound like MSRP's which are worth nothing. Go work prices with both and compare, ive been really impressed with the late model fords I have driven. But there is something to be said about simplicity and I feel like the tundra with have much more simple mechanics, no turbos, no auto start stop, and all the other garbage that will break.

I've got a 2010 F150 4wd with the Laramie package at 100,000 miles. Have had zero problems with it. I am looking to replace it and like the idea of driving different trucks to see the difference. The problem with that is it is such a beating to even walk on a dealership lot. Will probably only take the beating once and get another Ford.

My thinking is if I am going to spend 40k on a vehicle I need to like the looks interior,exterior the ride and capability etc...I would not spend that kind of money to get a few extra mpg and hate the vehicle..

Looked at both seriously in 2014. Real world prices are similar when the trim levels are apples to apples. I found that the Ford had more features/options available and better mileage with the Eco Boost. The Tundra would have better resale and just felt a little more barebones/no frills, but not in a bad way. Ford (EcoBoost) wins the mileage big time.

Both are great trucks. You will find happy and unhappy owners on both sides as well as die hard fan boys for either. I didn't consider the Chevy because I just didn't care for the styling.

I didn't read the whole thread, just your first post. I went from a Ford to Toyota a couple of years ago, nothing at all to worry about. I have the 5.7L V-8, it gets about 17 MPG, but I didn't buy a new vehicle for fuel mileage...this sucker can flat out tow. Not only does it pull insanely good but it can also stop while towing. Doesn't do any good to be able to pull it if you cant stop it. Inside of the Tundra is as roomy if not more than the Ford and the new models have the awesome back glass that rolls down. No complaints with mine going on year 3 with it, I guess the only thing to worry about is getting whiplash from pushing the gas pedal to fast with that 5.7L engine. They will get up and go!

If I ever replaced my 2014 Ford F-150 the only other truck I'd have is the RAPTER! Enough said bout that .

I'm actually very surprised to see the Tundra in a similar trim package is even close in price. Typically yota is more expensive.

Not a fan of Toyota. The Ford ecoboost will run circles around a tundra. I've only driven a tundra twice and have no desire to drive one again, felt heavy and didn't tow as well as a comparable f-150 with an ecoboost.

I was at my Ford dealer this morning. These are a couple stickers I was looking at.

I'm with you on the auto start/stop. Stupid feature imo that has been causing some issues. The turbo on the other hand...it sure is nice at elevation and in the hills and when towing.

Stickers and msrp are nonsense and depending on the dealer they are total bs. One of the reasons people hate car shopping, or boat shopping for that matter

Dodge doesn't make trucks anymore, so I agree that they aren't part of the conversation.

I switched from a Ford to a Tundra a couple of months ago. I originally didn't look at the Tundra because I thought they'd be more expensive..not. I paid a few thousand dollars less than a F150 would have been and I got the TSS blacked out package. Won't be looking back..

That start/stop method I agree with not liking it but as being an option that can be turned off if you want to . Do it in settings is the way to do it .

Have 2013 Ford F150 with Ecoboost. Have about 110K miles on it and must say it tows great but mine has had lots of problems. Coil packs...2 water pumps...sun roof no longer works...keypad entry failed and many more minor things wrong. Will definitely consider a Tundra for my next truck.

Beg to differ. There ain't a stock ecoboost on the planet that can keep up with a 5.7 Tundra. Ain't gonna happen ever.

Pretty much the identical problems my son has had with his ecoboost except the throttle body problems he experienced. Fomoco knows it's a problem. Dealers sell after markets.

Yep.

heck, the stock 5.0 can keep up with the 5.7

You've gotta be kidding me

Well, whatever it is, at least it isn't a Chevy.

Beg away but both the 3.5l EB and the 6.2l GM will spank a 5.7l Tundra.

3.5l vs 5.7l arguments are Twice the displacement and the Tundra can barely pull ahead.

So ford is no longer manufacturing trucks?

Yeah, that's what I meant. Maybe I should type slower.

So tell us Mr Ford, what is no longer being manufactured? Last time I checked ford is still manufacturing trucks.

I guess maybe I could type it slower to explain but you still won't understand.

It wouldn't matter because nothing you say makes a bit of sense.

Here I'll help you...

ford still manufactures trucks, correct? THIS IS WHERE YOU PUT AN ANSWER

Why would anyone want to buy something that has proven to let them down in the past? THIS IS WHERE YOU PUT AN ANSWER

I'm not sure what all this "type slower" stuff is about. You literally have had days to analyze a few hundred words.

Gimme the displacement over the turbo-supercharged-thingamajiggy that will start making funny noises at around 75 k

My BIL has one on the farm. pulls great but the mileage sucks when towing. I got the 5.0. less to go wrong.

Did you know a 15 minute call to Geico could save you 15% or more on car insurance.

My brother has a new Eco Boost, we happened to get up front side by side at a light on the way home from work a few months ago on Davis and had us a little drag race. The Eco Boost hung in there pretty good, I took him with my 5.7L but not by as much as I thought I would.

I've been a Ford guy my whole life until this last vehicle purchase, I came out of a 99 F-250 with a 7.3L Power Stroke.... arguably the best engine ever built. I test drove everything except Chevy and GMC To me the Tundra was the best value available that had the interior room and performance I wanted. This purchase was more about overall value than brand loyalty for me. As long as its not a Chevy I wont get disowned by my family.

They have to do something. The 5.7's MPG average is too low. And they will get fined by the government. Read awhile back they would be ditching the 5.7 and going with their smaller V-8.

I have an 17 Z-71 6.2 it will scream. And get 22-25mpg hwy. and 16 mpg city. It's getting better mpg than my 14 and 15 5.3 engine trucks got.

It only just turned 5k miles and while taking it in for it's first oil change the window water sprayer crapped out. Other then that and a 8 speed transmission that sometimes doesn't know what speed it wants. It's been a good truck.

ford started using a 10 speed tranny this year. auto's have come a LONG way since the days of the powerglide.

I think my next one will have the 6.2. I've got 125k on my 09 crew cab and it's been a fantastic truck. Other than oil changes, tires and preventative maintenance it's never been in the shop.

Run the race with boats on the back and that 5.7 would leave the whining ecoboost in the dust.

To me a truck is for towing stuff. I care how it tows. Gas mileage is somewhere down below what rims it has. Give me a straight V8 and a solid drive train and I'm in. I'd do diesel but I'm not a hardcore hauler. Aluminum bodies and turbocharged minitruck engines tweaked out to the edge of capability are just not enticing to me. If I want better gas mileage I'll buy a car.

The eco has more torque. Just saying.

https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/ford-f150-vs-toyota-tundra

The 6.2 is an awesome motor, but the problem is that they only offer it as an option in their top-end trucks that cost as much as a 3/4 ton. That takes it out of the running for me.

It's also faster.

2017 Ford F-150 King Ranch SuperCrew 3.5L EcoBoost 4X4
0-60 mph 5.7 | Quarter mile 14.4

2017 Toyota Tundra CrewMax 4X4
0-60 mph 6.4 | Quarter mile 15.1

http://www.zeroto60times.com/body-style/pickup-truck/

Impressive.


2017 Ford F-150 King Ranch SuperCrew 3.5L EcoBoost 4X4

Lows
Doesn�t sound much like a truck, costs more than a Mustang Shelby GT350.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2017-ford-f-150-35l-ecoboost-10-speed-automatic-test-review

Toyota is a man's truck, that's funny right there. There's a reason Ford and GM are number one and two in truck sales, they make good trucks. However if you want to buy the fifth selling truck out there then get you one of them ugly gas burning P.O.S. trucks. A man's truck. L.o.L.

Toyota half ton is the best on the planet. Everything else sucks.

Lock this thread down.

Done.

Shoot might as well include the Raptor l, after all it is a production truck.
0-60 5.2 seconds
1/4 mile 14.1 seconds

yea, but now the Raptor has the Eco-boost and not the 6.2

That is the ecoboost.

The new Raptors are 3.5 liter ecoboost

The 6.2 raptor runs something like a 15 1/4mi and 6.5 0-60

They have tweeted the 3.5 eco in the Raptor. Just more stuff to blowup sooner.

Reading this thread confirms my theory that religion and politics are way less controversial and heated discussion topics than trucks and college football among men in texas.

In my Ford today. Hope it doesn't explode.

That's cute, but they have tested them empty and loaded same load same course same everything like a standardized test and the ecoboost beats the tundra every time.

So rather than buying a truck that can tow and get good gas mileage, you'll buy a truck to tow and a separate car to save money? Just because your "view" of the purpose of the tool?

My dad's 2013 Tundra has the 5.7L and it was surprisingly slow given the specs and the rear end.

If I want to drive fast, I'll get a car though. When considering which truck to buy, speed is somewhere down below what color the floor boards are. I want to know if it can do the jobs I need it to and how little gas it needs to do those jobs. Everyone is far too big of a hurry when we're quoting 0-60 times on half ton trucks.

^^^^^^^^^^ Agreed

I know what you mean. I said the same little prayer everyday when I got in mine.

Didn't work though it still blew up... twice

didn't spring for the lariat either eh?

Ecoboost burnout, not blow up

Lol, and y'all gave me krap for braggin on my 5.0


BWAHAHAHAHA

Why don't you tell everyone what your personal truck is......

I haven't decided if you're for real or not but if your mechanic believes the engine is sucking the cat, you might want to switch shops to avoid a 3rd blowup.

Tundra like Jesus drove

He is forealz... And he used to be a mechanic. The Ford dealership is the one doing the work.

12 mpg. That's awesome. Lol.

Quit violating the idling policy.

HA yeah I'm 100% serious the first time it didn't really blow up it just had a miss at idle and a check engine light. Felt like a vacuum leak, but when I took it in they found metal shavings everywhere. They put in a new engine, turbos and cats. Second time 4000 miles later the turbo seal was bad leaking oil into the exhaust and coolant somewhere (didn't quite hear that part real well) and then the bottom end of the engine went out. Lots of knocking and trying to lock up. And this is all still under warranty so I've been taking it to Ford. It's a company work/personal truck so I keep driving whatever they put me in.

So did it explode yet?

Not yet but there is still time

Yeah it's still early in the day. Well I hope your not in it when it does.

weird. I've never lost a motor in any vehicle I've had. glad I got the 5.0

I can show a link to just about any engine out there that has blown. Unfortunately, it happens sometimes. I can also show a link to a guy with over 350k miles on his ecoboost.

11 pages and not a peep out of the Dodge guys. LMBO

If you look closely at that picture you will notice that Ford always circles the problem right there on the steering wheel.

I haven't owned nor driven a pickup in years.

Still love my Payed for and minor troubled Yukon. (2003)

Good luck with the new models guys!

Don't be mad because we know how to stay on topic

Love my ram, no problems 4x4 crew cab 27 mpg

But your name is.... nevermind

I really wish I still had that old chevy now. It would have a cummins 4bt in it now. Was my first truck, a great truck, and I very much regret selling it.

Million mile eco.....or not

I still want to know what the routine maintenance is. I wonder if there were some major overhauls on that motor or not.

None..all original ..Big article about it...Toyota gave him a new one after hearing about this hitting 1 mil...are now in possession of it

Dodge doesn't make trucks, but you can check out posts about my Ram on some of the early pages. It will get 20 mpg pulling my Triton boat, it'll pull my 6,000 lbs travel trailer, and it will get 26-28 mpg commuting to work and 30+ mpg on highway trips with no trailer. There isn't another vehicle on earth that can do all of that, and it cost less than most of the Ford/Toyota/Chevy trucks also.

It would take me over 20 years to hit 350.

Dodge.....Ram..... whatever.

At the end of the day it's still a Fiat Chrysler product.

21,000 miles on mine with zero issues. Can't say that about my wife's Honda that she bought new, or any Ford that our family ever owned. We did have a good run with Chevy's and our Toyota's so far have been good but not perfect.

Fords are always made better with an LS swap.

You have a dodge, just admit it. It has a billy goat on it. Don't be ashamed. Lol

After reading this thread, I now understand how the divorce rate is 50+%. Jesus.

I traded my Ram 2500 in on a Tundra a month ago. Today I was cleaning out all the receipts from maintenance and repair on the beast. 2 fan-Cluthes, a Radiator, the complete AC system, serpentine belt, shocks,, 3 sets of batteries, etc. the engine and drive train were good, everything else was bad. First Ram, last Ram.

I don't think he ever married

Smart. Paul didn't either.

He kept it between y'all.

Wall?

I just get a kick out of how many folks haven't caught up with news from 2009. I think most of their opinions on the brand are from those days also. The new Ram trucks are very good. Like I said, it is light years ahead of my dad's 2013 Tundra and much, much cheaper and more efficient than any of the new Tundras.

But hey, if you guys want to spend an extra $10k up front to for the privilege of putting in 20 gallons of gas to go 325 miles, that's your business. If I go 325 miles, I've got half a tank or more of diesel left, and I'm already $10k ahead for buying a less expensive truck.

Like I said, all the new ones are very good. Toyota, Nissan, Ford, GM, and Ram all make nice pickups. I love mine because I don't have to get 16 mpg driving to work and back. I respect folks that like the reliability and power of a Tundra or the features/power of a Ford. It's all good.

Dodge trucks might be good trucks for what they are in order for your truck to get that kind of gas mileage it would have to be a miracle built motor that is very rare and unheard of ! I've never even know of any car except a 4 Cyl Toyota car that would come close to that kinda of gas mileage . But a work truck ? NEVER !!

Google the Ram Ecodiesel. I thought the same thing before I heard about it last year.

a friend asked me to go pick up their travel trailer for them. drove his 04 1t 3500 srw 5.9 cummins with standard trans. 3.55 gears 2wd.
trailer was about 125 miles ea. way, going down got about 24mpg, with a 33' bumper pull trailer going back it got 21. I did have a tailwind of about 10-15.

diesel set up right will get great mileage.

I like billy goats with Bling on them Wawi.

Update

The Ford got me to work again

The Tundra got my daughter to school this morning

Will report back later

I've been around the world 212 times in my Billy goats. I'm still alive too.

The letters in Ford can be rearranged to spell DORF
The letters in Tundra can be rearranged to spell DARNUT

I had a ram for 11 years. Changed the oil about 5 times and the water pump went out at the lake one day. Limped home with water jugs. Fixed it. She never let me down. I like my Tundra more but the goat was reliable.

Yep, like normal while you owned a ram it was the best thing since sliced bread. Now that you don't own one anymore they suck and amazing Toyota... or what you now drive, is again the best thing since sliced bread. You did nothing but brag on that ram to the point of absurdity and now its a pos

All the article would say was nothing more than Toyota scheduled maintenance or similar is all I could ever find about it and my question was and still is... what is Toyotas recommended scheduled maintenance for 300,000, 400,000,.... 900,000 etc. miles?

Tundra drivers aren't very convincing. Just picked up my new F-150. Have had two Fords with zero problems so saw no reason to change.

I agree 1OO%. KWC was the biggest Ram homer out there next to me.

Now that got a sip of the Kool-Aid he's trying to trick himself into thinking he has a superior truck now.

I wonder what the OP ended up buying.

I'm sure KC's new Tundra is better than his 2008 Ram. That's my point. The age of the truck has a much bigger impact on the quality and features than the badge. Newer trucks are just flat out built better with more features than what we had 10 years ago.

yep.

nope, other than spending money on mods. I picked up a 2017 TSS Off Road SR5 4x4 CM for under 40K. There are some great deals right now. 18s are going up $1k with just minor changes. Only problem I had with the Tundra is that ugly chrome grille. I ordered a TRD PRO grille the day I bought the truck. While I had the OEM off I added a 32" LED light bar. I had planned to put the bar in the bumper. Since swapping out the grille I have decided to put a 40" behind the grille and move the 32" down. Guys at the deer lease will be real happy when I roll in to camp in the dark.

As stated before ...original motor drive train etc....the scheduled maintenance of any vehicle doesn't include overhaul or replacement of engines or trannys...the guy had something like 120 visits to dealer for scheduled maintenance...not replacements or overhauls.... redchevy you should know what scheduled maintenance is...right?

I still want to know what the routine maintenance is. I wonder if there were some major overhauls on that motor or not. [/quote]None..all original ..Big article about it...Toyota gave him a new one after hearing about this hitting 1 mil...are now in possession of it [/quote]

All the article would say was nothing more than Toyota scheduled maintenance or similar is all I could ever find about it and my question was and still is... what is Toyotas recommended scheduled maintenance for 300,000, 400,000,.... 900,000 etc. miles? [/quote]

We do know that at 999,999.9, Toyota wants them turned back in,......

I heard he bought a Chevy with a 6.2 so he wouldn't have to get in petty little arguments about who's truck is the most powerful.

I am a converted "TUNDRA" guy, but the 98 Dodge I had before the Tundra was a hell of a truck. Had a 360 quad cab that got as good a mileage as my 07 tundra. Put 250,000 on it and replaced the tranny at 175,000. The biggest difference I see in Toyota and my old ram (or pretty much any american truck I have owned) is the "little things like broken knobs, torn seats, cracked and fading dashes, chipping paint, powerlocks and doors, and perhaps the biggest item, THE AIR CONDITIONERS. I have had terrible luck in the past with Ford, Chevy, Dodge with these items. The only item broken on my 07 tundra is a rear door actuator after 10 years and a quarter million miles. Does it drive like new? Hell no. Does it have the power it had when I bought it? not quite. Yeah, the gas mileage sucks, like it always has, but I don't really feel it unless gas gets over 3 bucks a gallon. I have not owned a Ford or Chevy since the early 90's, so I really cant speak for them as far as their newer vehicles. All I know is that I am sold on the Yota and the quality of their fit, finish, and materials used in their products. Everything in the truck seems "overbuilt" and I like that.

You're a good man for not making your daughter drive a Ford.

My point is there is no scheduled maintenance for 700,000 miles. They were very vague about calling it Toyota scheduled maintenance and in my opinion there was a reason for that. I'd say its just as big a feat the transmission making it to a million miles as the motor, but you don't hear anything about that. Is it possible I guess so, do I completely believe what Toyota and the media feed me? No.

Something that greatly adds to the amount of miles a vehicle will rack up in my opinion is how they are used not many vehciles see that kind of mileage. I think Toyota builds a quality product, but I am very much a skeptic of that truck. My boss drives a 7.3 F250 with 340k miles on it... but he wont tell you that an injector cup rusted through and he had the heads rebuilt at 250k miles either.

Maintenance pretty much just repeats itself...over and over...simple

Yes I'm aware of that, doesn't mean they wont rebuild a head or a motor and call it maintenance. I bet Toyota would overlook a transmission or engine rebuild to claim a million mile motor as well. I watched all the stuff about it and they were talking about how it had surprisingly little to no wear etc... I'm expecting all the tundras to make a million trouble free miles now.

They are talking about exterior and interior had that wear in relation to the mileage...there have been other vehicles reach this mark...is it a freak ...yes probably...but it did do it..like it or not

It's 1 truck out of millions. Nothing really to get excited about.

just sayin.

Let's start over again please.

What are you, my wife?

lol

Hop, you need to do something with all that shiny stuff on the front of the truck

Good Ol' Boy pickup