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Pharma costs

Posted By: Allison1

Pharma costs - 07/24/20 10:49 PM

If this is or becomes too political please move this to the Bunker. I thought it would be of benefit for everyone to see it here but I was not sure.

The president has made a couple EO's today that will lower drug costs for the average American.
I wondered how legal it was but if it gets done it solves one of my problems with the US pharma rules/laws.

We sell overseas at much lower prices than we sell in the US. If they are made to offer the same deals to Americans that they do overseas our prices will be lower.

Discuss.
Posted By: H.Town_paddler

Re: Pharma costs - 07/24/20 10:53 PM

I don’t know.
Posted By: CCTX

Re: Pharma costs - 07/24/20 10:56 PM

Hope this happens; I’ll believe when I see it.
Posted By: Davedave

Re: Pharma costs - 07/24/20 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by CCTX
Hope this happens; I’ll believe when I see it.

Will this bring more filthy libs to Texas?
Posted By: steveiam

Re: Pharma costs - 07/24/20 11:10 PM

I hope it helps lower the prices-
Hasn’t happened yet, I will welcome it it does-
Posted By: CCTX

Re: Pharma costs - 07/24/20 11:11 PM

The only thing keeping more filthy libs away are our MJ laws
If it ever gets legalized here, the lib gates will swing wide open.
Posted By: Tommar

Re: Pharma costs - 07/24/20 11:13 PM

Shoulda happened a long time ago. I’m tired of America subsidizing so many of our own citizens, let alone other nations. This is mostly big pharma doing it to us, not Uncle Sam.

Whizzed me off bad when Lance Armstrong bamboozled the Texas taxpayers into paying for his dam cancer research [censored].
Posted By: Duck_Hunter

Re: Pharma costs - 07/25/20 12:48 AM

The red tape in this country is absurd, and drives up costs for all kinds of things, but health care and medicine are ridiculous due to it. There are simple solutions to lower costs, but instead sledgehammers were used instead of love taps to upend the entire industry, which drove costs up, not down.

Something needs to change. I have reservations about executive orders, though.
Posted By: pchapin

Re: Pharma costs - 07/25/20 12:49 AM

Nothing in those orders will make Walgreens charge the same for cash customers as they are paid by insurance companies.
My Atorvastatin 40MG cost $23.94 for a 90 day supply. I have WellCare insurance. I once lost my bottle a month before it was due for a refil, the cost for one month was $170. The pharmacist said sorry, I cannot give you the insurance price.
Posted By: rj74955

Re: Pharma costs - 07/25/20 12:59 AM

Originally Posted by pchapin
Nothing in those orders will make Walgreens charge the same for cash customers as they are paid by insurance companies.
My Atorvastatin 40MG cost $23.94 for a 90 day supply. I have WellCare insurance. I once lost my bottle a month before it was due for a refil, the cost for one month was $170. The pharmacist said sorry, I cannot give you the insurance price.

That's horrible. We are so lucky, we have a doctor and nurse on site 2 days a week, and a mini pharmacy. There are VERY few prescription other than pain meds they can't fill right there on the spot, and the prescriptions are free.
Posted By: TR176

Re: Pharma costs - 07/25/20 01:42 AM

Originally Posted by pchapin
Nothing in those orders will make Walgreens charge the same for cash customers as they are paid by insurance companies.
My Atorvastatin 40MG cost $23.94 for a 90 day supply. I have WellCare insurance. I once lost my bottle a month before it was due for a refil, the cost for one month was $170. The pharmacist said sorry, I cannot give you the insurance price.


You are being had this stuff is $15.00 for 90 day at Costco without ins and about $8 for one month.
Posted By: pchapin

Re: Pharma costs - 07/25/20 02:17 AM

Originally Posted by TR176
Originally Posted by pchapin
Nothing in those orders will make Walgreens charge the same for cash customers as they are paid by insurance companies.
My Atorvastatin 40MG cost $23.94 for a 90 day supply. I have WellCare insurance. I once lost my bottle a month before it was due for a refil, the cost for one month was $170. The pharmacist said sorry, I cannot give you the insurance price.


You are being had this stuff is $15.00 for 90 day at Costco without ins and about $8 for one month.

40MG Atorvastatin is 22.99 per Costco website. Costco does not list three of my perscriptions but there are four that would save me 120.76 a year. I will check and see if they can get the other three.
Posted By: Spiderman

Re: Pharma costs - 07/25/20 02:18 AM

I wonder what they can do for what hospitals are charging???
Posted By: Kentucky

Re: Pharma costs - 07/25/20 02:19 AM

goodrx.com is where it's at
Posted By: TR176

Re: Pharma costs - 07/25/20 03:36 AM

Originally Posted by pchapin
Originally Posted by TR176
Originally Posted by pchapin
Nothing in those orders will make Walgreens charge the same for cash customers as they are paid by insurance companies.
My Atorvastatin 40MG cost $23.94 for a 90 day supply. I have WellCare insurance. I once lost my bottle a month before it was due for a refil, the cost for one month was $170. The pharmacist said sorry, I cannot give you the insurance price.


You are being had this stuff is $15.00 for 90 day at Costco without ins and about $8 for one month.

40MG Atorvastatin is 22.99 per Costco website. Costco does not list three of my perscriptions but there are four that would save me 120.76 a year. I will check and see if they can get the other three.


Check Walmart they have a list that has 100s of drugs for $10-90 days without ins.
Posted By: the skipper

Re: Pharma costs - 07/25/20 03:40 AM

I would think instead of lowering prices here they would raise prices everywhere else.
Posted By: joebass2

Re: Pharma costs - 07/25/20 03:46 AM

Originally Posted by Kentucky
goodrx.com is where it's at



+1
Posted By: ReelBusy

Re: Pharma costs - 07/25/20 03:50 AM

Hope the outcome is as intended. I have no doubt pharma will try to circumvent it

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Allow states, wholesalers and pharmacies to import FDA-approved drugs from foreign countries and sell them in the U.S. Trump has long complained that countries where the government sets the price of drugs are taking advantage of American consumers. The order includes a special provision to allow wholesalers and pharmacies to re-import insulin and biological drugs. The pharmaceutical industry says importation could undermine U.S. quality standards.


Use the lowest price among other economically advanced countries to set what Medicare pays for certain drugs administered in a doctor's office, including many cancer medications. This would apply to the most expensive medications covered by Medicare's "Part B," which pays for outpatient care. Drugmakers are particularly leery of the approach, since Democrats want to use it more broadly to allow Medicare to directly negotiate prices.


Direct federally funded community health centers to pass discounts they now get for insulin and EpiPens directly to low-income patients.


Ensure that rebates drugmakers now pay to benefit managers and insurers get passed directly to patients when they buy a medication. The White House last year withdrew an earlier version of the proposal, after the Congressional Budget Office estimated it would cost taxpayers $177 billion over 10 years. Administration officials now question that number.
Posted By: pchapin

Re: Pharma costs - 07/25/20 03:57 AM

Source: FDA; Safeguarding Pharmaceutical Supply Chains in a Global Economy, October 2019Source: FDA; Safeguarding Pharmaceutical Supply Chains in a Global Economy, October 2019
There are nearly 2,000 manufacturing facilities around the world that provide pharmaceutical drugs to the United States. Of those, 230 are in China. There are 510 in the United States and 1,048 in the rest of the world. Even though the number of manufacturers in the United States is at a historical low, the supply chain is clearly quite diverse.
Posted By: Chug-bug-bang1

Re: Pharma costs - 07/25/20 04:00 AM

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