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surgical masks, prevent infection or spread?

Posted By: Bob Davis

surgical masks, prevent infection or spread? - 02/28/20 02:20 PM

Hey medical folks like Ray Bob and all, do these surgical masks prevent you from breathing in a virus OR prevent you from breathing out a virus and spreading it?
Posted By: OTFF

Re: surgical masks, prevent infection or spread? - 02/28/20 02:25 PM

News keeps saying it keeps you from spreading it.
Posted By: Arkansas10 bass

Re: surgical masks, prevent infection or spread? - 02/28/20 02:26 PM

Mask are for protection from droplets. Hand washing will help from catching.
Posted By: boocat

Re: surgical masks, prevent infection or spread? - 02/28/20 02:28 PM

Not a super clear-cut answer that I have seen so far but what little I have read is that covid is droplet not airborne. If it is airborne, the only people that will benefit from all those masks are the mask manufacturers. (unless you have a PERFECTLY fitting n-95 mask)
Posted By: Samsonsworld

Re: surgical masks, prevent infection or spread? - 02/28/20 02:40 PM

If it doesn't make a difference, then why do healthcare providers wear one? Keep in mind the coronavirus is airborne. In my mind, it's more effective if the infected person wears it. It should catch anything when the person coughs or sneezes. For non-infected, I would think wearing a mask is better than nothing. It would prevent you from breathing in the virus but your eyes are still exposed leaving you at risk. Don't forget the hand sanitizer. #1 thing you should have and use frequently imo.
Posted By: BigDozer66

Re: surgical masks, prevent infection or spread? - 02/28/20 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by boocat
Not a super clear-cut answer that I have seen so far but what little I have read is that covid is droplet not airborne. If it is airborne, the only people that will benefit from all those masks are the mask manufacturers. (unless you have a PERFECTLY fitting n-95 mask)


The ones most everyone wears will do nothing. popcorn2
Posted By: BCBassCat

Re: surgical masks, prevent infection or spread? - 02/28/20 02:50 PM

Sold out
Posted By: Jig Man

Re: surgical masks, prevent infection or spread? - 02/28/20 02:56 PM

And there isn't a cool factor...
Posted By: elcoyote, esq.

Re: surgical masks, prevent infection or spread? - 02/28/20 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by boocat
covid is droplet not airborne.

Originally Posted by Samsonsworld
Keep in mind the coronavirus is airborne. .


I agree. Here’s a recipe for mac n cheese that I want to try.

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Posted By: BassFever

Re: surgical masks, prevent infection or spread? - 02/28/20 03:12 PM

While we breathe moisture can and will come out. We don't want that to fall into a sterile field and cause an infection.
Posted By: Bob Davis

Re: surgical masks, prevent infection or spread? - 02/28/20 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by Arkansas10 bass
Mask are for protection from droplets. Hand washing will help from catching.


Oh, so infected people should have these which is what I thought. If an infected person sneezes, then this may prevent the sneeze corona droplets from being inhaled by you.

In operating rooms, doctors wear surgical masks to prevent infecting patients, not because they may catch something when they cut open a chest cavity.

Once upon a time, my oldest daughter was feeling poorly and went to the local Docs here. They did a flu test on her and when they came back in to tell her the results they had masks on and they handed her one. Which now makes me wonder why they did that?
Posted By: T Bird

Re: surgical masks, prevent infection or spread? - 02/28/20 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by Jig Man
And there isn't a cool factor...


I'm going with the facial bandanna look. thumb

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Posted By: Samsonsworld

Re: surgical masks, prevent infection or spread? - 02/28/20 03:14 PM

How does the Coronavirus spread? CLICKY
Posted By: Bob Davis

Re: surgical masks, prevent infection or spread? - 02/28/20 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by T Bird
Originally Posted by Jig Man
And there isn't a cool factor...


I'm going with the facial bandanna look. thumb

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I like it, but don't they make these in Red/White and Blue?
Posted By: PowerLizard

Re: surgical masks, prevent infection or spread? - 02/28/20 03:15 PM

The basic mask helps the wearer prevent the spread of droplets which may contain the virus. The basic mask does not help the wearer avoid droplets very much. As stated above, a well fitted N-95 mask will help prevent the droplets from entering your lungs. The N-95 mask in not very confortable for daily wear.
Posted By: elcoyote, esq.

Re: surgical masks, prevent infection or spread? - 02/28/20 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by Bob Davis
Originally Posted by T Bird
Originally Posted by Jig Man
And there isn't a cool factor...


I'm going with the facial bandanna look. thumb

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I like it, but don't they make these in Red/White and Blue?


Yes. Those are the tacticool ones.
Posted By: T Bird

Re: surgical masks, prevent infection or spread? - 02/28/20 03:18 PM

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Posted By: Bob Davis

Re: surgical masks, prevent infection or spread? - 02/28/20 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by PowerLizard
The basic mask helps the wearer prevent the spread of droplets which may contain the virus. The basic mask does not help the wearer avoid droplets very much. As stated above, a well fitted N-95 mask will help prevent the droplets from entering your lungs. The N-95 mask in not very confortable for daily wear.



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Posted By: Bob Davis

Re: surgical masks, prevent infection or spread? - 02/28/20 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by T Bird
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Ahhh, mo bettah.
Posted By: Bob Davis

Re: surgical masks, prevent infection or spread? - 02/28/20 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by elcoyote, esq.
Originally Posted by Bob Davis
Originally Posted by T Bird
Originally Posted by Jig Man
And there isn't a cool factor...


I'm going with the facial bandanna look. thumb

[Linked Image]



I like it, but don't they make these in Red/White and Blue?


Yes. Those are the tacticool ones.


One should have came with my HD Optics Tactical sunglasses.
Posted By: RayBob

Re: surgical masks, prevent infection or spread? - 02/28/20 03:33 PM

Masks prevent inhalation of droplet borne infection ... the N95 is what we wear when dealing with TB infection because of the better facial seal. Surgical masks are to keep our breath from infecting open wounds in the surgical setting but is also what we use with general airborne droplet isolation patients. Surely these surgical/procedure masks are not as efficient at filtering intake air as the N95 but they are better than nothing. In the last couple of weeks I've had 2 influenza patients (droplet precautions) and our isolation carts were stocked with the usual surgical masks.

Floating particles are the offenders but hand washing is just as important are the prevention of transmission.

definitions:

https://eportal.mountsinai.ca/Microbiology/faq/transmission.shtml

I want the N95 if I am at increased risk of exposure to the Corona.
Posted By: TR176

Re: surgical masks, prevent infection or spread? - 02/28/20 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by PowerLizard
The basic mask helps the wearer prevent the spread of droplets which may contain the virus. The basic mask does not help the wearer avoid droplets very much. As stated above, a well fitted N-95 mask will help prevent the droplets from entering your lungs. The N-95 mask in not very confortable for daily wear.


N-95 masks not effective on people with facial hair as they must have tight fit.
Posted By: BassFever

Re: surgical masks, prevent infection or spread? - 02/28/20 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by Bob Davis
Originally Posted by Arkansas10 bass
Mask are for protection from droplets. Hand washing will help from catching.


Oh, so infected people should have these which is what I thought. If an infected person sneezes, then this may prevent the sneeze corona droplets from being inhaled by you.

In operating rooms, doctors wear surgical masks to prevent infecting patients, not because they may catch something when they cut open a chest cavity.

Once upon a time, my oldest daughter was feeling poorly and went to the local Docs here. They did a flu test on her and when they came back in to tell her the results they had masks on and they handed her one. Which now makes me wonder why they did that?




Flu or possible TB
Posted By: Bob Davis

Re: surgical masks, prevent infection or spread? - 02/28/20 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by RayBob
Masks prevent inhalation of droplet borne infection ... the N95 is what we wear when dealing with TB infection because of the better facial seal. Surgical masks are to keep our breath from infecting open wounds in the surgical setting but is also what we use with general airborne droplet isolation patients. Surely these surgical/procedure masks are not as efficient at filtering intake air as the N95 but they are better than nothing. In the last couple of weeks I've had 2 influenza patients (droplet precautions) and our isolation carts were stocked with the usual surgical masks.

Floating particles are the offenders but hand washing is just as important are the prevention of transmission.

definitions:

https://eportal.mountsinai.ca/Microbiology/faq/transmission.shtml

I want the N95 if I am at increased risk of exposure to the Corona.


Thank you Sir!
thumb cheers
Posted By: RayBob

Re: surgical masks, prevent infection or spread? - 02/28/20 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by TR176
Originally Posted by PowerLizard
The basic mask helps the wearer prevent the spread of droplets which may contain the virus. The basic mask does not help the wearer avoid droplets very much. As stated above, a well fitted N-95 mask will help prevent the droplets from entering your lungs. The N-95 mask in not very confortable for daily wear.


N-95 masks not effective on people with facial hair as they must have tight fit.


I hear they are personally tested with flavored dust like Crystal Light tea.
Posted By: RayBob

Re: surgical masks, prevent infection or spread? - 02/28/20 03:37 PM

Yeah, I'll shave.
Posted By: Derek 🐝

Re: surgical masks, prevent infection or spread? - 02/28/20 04:27 PM

My wife said this was a horrible idea. I don't tend to believe what she says so I figured I'd run this by the OT. The only ones I can trust. I'm thinking about getting a mask and smearing some ketchup on the front of it and wearing it to Walmart to really freak people out. Is that a horrible idea?
Posted By: Bob Davis

Re: surgical masks, prevent infection or spread? - 02/28/20 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by Derek 🐝
My wife said this was a horrible idea. I don't tend to believe what she says so I figured I'd run this by the OT. The only ones I can trust. I'm thinking about getting a mask and smearing some ketchup on the front of it and wearing it to Walmart to really freak people out. Is that a horrible idea?


A great idea. You will have no problems clearing a path to the checkout.
Posted By: Bob Davis

Re: surgical masks, prevent infection or spread? - 02/28/20 04:30 PM

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Posted By: forkduc

Re: surgical masks, prevent infection or spread? - 02/28/20 05:36 PM

Spread not prevent.
Posted By: BigDozer66

Re: surgical masks, prevent infection or spread? - 02/28/20 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by Bob Davis
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cheers
Posted By: fishslime

Re: surgical masks, prevent infection or spread? - 02/28/20 07:23 PM

Between election ads, corona virus, and the Dow Jones, I hate to turn the TV on. It could get depressing if one let it.
Posted By: Jpurdue

Re: surgical masks, prevent infection or spread? - 02/28/20 07:51 PM

From what I've read a mask without hand washing does very little. A mask with hand washing is much better than just hand washing, in terms of prevention.
Posted By: TheBiscuit

Re: surgical masks, prevent infection or spread? - 02/28/20 08:07 PM

Those Depends I have out in the pickup may end up doing double duty.
Posted By: Bigbob_FTW

Re: surgical masks, prevent infection or spread? - 02/28/20 08:12 PM

Gitcha one of these and never worry again...

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Posted By: TR176

Re: surgical masks, prevent infection or spread? - 02/29/20 12:04 AM

Wash hands briskly for the amount of time it takes to say the ABC song.
When using alcohol hand sanitizer let it dry on the skin. That is what kills the bugs.
If this fails do CPR to the cadence of “Stayin Alive”.
Posted By: TR176

Re: surgical masks, prevent infection or spread? - 02/29/20 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by RayBob
Originally Posted by TR176
Originally Posted by PowerLizard
The basic mask helps the wearer prevent the spread of droplets which may contain the virus. The basic mask does not help the wearer avoid droplets very much. As stated above, a well fitted N-95 mask will help prevent the droplets from entering your lungs. The N-95 mask in not very confortable for daily wear.


N-95 masks not effective on people with facial hair as they must have tight fit.


I hear they are personally tested with flavored dust like Crystal Light tea.


It is a puff from an atomizer. Don’t know what it is but it has a sweet smell.
Posted By: TR176

Re: surgical masks, prevent infection or spread? - 02/29/20 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by fishslime
Between election ads, corona virus, and the Dow Jones, I hate to turn the TV on. It could get depressing if one let it.


If the Cowboys were playing, we would to be on suicide watch.
Posted By: JacksonBean

Re: surgical masks, prevent infection or spread? - 02/29/20 04:34 AM

Originally Posted by Bob Davis
Hey medical folks like Ray Bob and all, do these surgical masks prevent you from breathing in a virus OR prevent you from breathing out a virus and spreading it?



It helps with droplet / aerosol spray mainly, not inspired air. Remember it’s traditionally been worn by the person attempting to contain THEIR germs (the sick person or medical staff) but somewhere along the way the Asian community thought it kept them from getting sick. Meanwhile, in airports all across the country, we dodged them thinking they were infectious once they donned the mask.

It will surely help you keep aerosol particles out of your airway if you’re around sick people coughing, sneezing or even talking. It’s also important to remember that many of these cultures will pack as many humans as possible into public modes of transport where strangers are literally breathing/sneezing/coughing ON you.

If you’re sick, it absolutely helps so we should all wear one or better yet..... stay home.
Posted By: Dan90210 ☮

Re: surgical masks, prevent infection or spread? - 02/29/20 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by JacksonBean


If you’re sick, it absolutely helps so we should all wear one or better yet..... stay home.


Right. If you are sick it will help keep you from infecting others. If you are healthy its not going to keep you from getting anything. Wash your hands, dont touch your face, stay away from

Dr. Oz said so. And he is on TV, so he knows best.
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