Official "COWBOYS SHOCK THE WORLD" Thread

We Dem Boyz will shock the world with upset minded greatness. Dak plays at an elite level. He puts a temporary hold on Brady's GOAT status and outguns him for passing yards. Zeke gets used much more on the outside and has 133 total yards, which 75 coming from pass plays. Mainly this will be a defensive battle with no margin for error on Cowboys side....they play a flawless contest and beat the Patties by 3. Final score is Cows 23 Patties 20. Gonna be a Cowpatty kinda afternoon....who's on board?

Will Brady play?

Pats can't defend against the shotgun. Quick count and a screen pass will get you seven yards every time.

28-10 Pats

31-17 patriots. I predict Dak has a good day passing yards wise but throws at least two interceptions.

Pats offense comes to life and makes an example out of the cowboys and red clapper cries on the sideline.

Who spiked your coffee this morning?

Patriots will play keep away on offense and blitz dak out of the building on defense.

27 -24

Dem Boyz

Cows pull off the upset. Start the Super Bowl run

I'll be watching - that's all I got.

I think the Cowboys win. Patriots are struggling on offense a little and the Cowboys rise to the occasion. 24-17.

Pats hand cowpatties their butts on a platter

52-17

Pats score 21 in the first quarter alone

Maher plays spoiler and misses a 50 yarder for the win. Cowboys lose a close one 23-21.

The boys have struggles to put together a complete performance this year. Nothing tells me this is the game it’ll happen. They will have to play flawlessly to win....good luck with that in foxborough.

I'm rooting for a cowboy win against Frank's pats.

Pokes win a low scoring grind it out in 4 Wheel Drive Low offense to prove they haven't gone to a passing offense.

If they are gonna shock he world, give me 31 - 10
2 the bowl yall

Depends on whether or not Mike Ditka plays. If he does it will be Ditka 147- Cowboys-0. Otherwise the Cowboys win by a field goal.

Gonna be the #1 offense vs. #1 defense, I say the defense will win. Pats 28 Cows 21.

Reported.

I’m telling you this is just the type of the game this cows team is prone to win. The ones where you think they have no chance. Then they win it like 24-17 and super bowl talk starts again until they drop 2 or 3 in a row to teams they shouldn’t lose to. It’s just how it’s become under Red Clappy. Such a confusing team.

Unfortunately Pats dominate @Gillette and Belichick is caught taking a nap in the concussion tent by the 3rd quarter.

42-17 Patsies

Texans get first win against NE since 2009 next week 35-28

Late drive by pats for the win by 5

DoitBoys

There is nothing shocking about winning a football game.

I dislike both teams, but hate NE more.

I never cheer for Dallas unless they play a team I hate more on that day.

Today may be that day.

...signed, the official Texas Fishing Forum's Minnesota Vikings Representative!

Your Prescotts, your Elliots, your Coopers need to show up today, give 110% and play 60 minutes of football

This game will be won in the trenches, ball security will be paramount due to the weather conditions, 24-20 cowboys

They haven't beat a team that has a winning record right now. They do well against most of the other teams that will be watching the playoffs on TV.

The record of the teams they beat is a combined 13-36-1.
The record of the teams that beat them is a combined 27-14.
They lost to the Jets.

Optics don't look good.

Cowboys cannot play four quarters of NFL Football . Boys take the 3rd quarter and win late in the 4th .........Carry On

I hope that happens but I don't see the Cowboys being able to beat Parcells. Brady and Garrett today.

Cowboy Fan all the way. I hope you are right.


Side Note: I would also not bet on that.

Pulling for the Boyz, but I’m almost certain NE spanks our secondary while JG spits on the sideline like a broken lawn sprinkler!

Coach Garrett said at his presser that the team showed great enthusiasm, energy and swagger all week at practice.

OMG that's is exactly how he speaks to...... Red Robot

Game time weather forecast....

Mid 40’s
90+% chance of heavy rain
Winds at 16mph gusting up to 25

35-10 NE. This sorry D gets gashed today

I agree with you on a lot of football on here Mark but you’ve got me scratching my head with this comment. Parcells?Now drinking?

Should have said Belicheck....really have zero clue why I typed Parcells....lol

I thought that’s what you meant but you can see how thorough of readers we have on here. I thought someone would have caught it.

????

Good news is Cowboys will have a 1 game lead over Philly even if they lose to the Pats.

Eagles and especially Wentz playing terrible football.

I think Wentz is better than he is showing. He just has no help.

Didn't Pederson say they have to constantly show Wentz where he's supposed to go with the ball on film studies, I understand it's always evolving but he should have a much better grasp of the plays at this point in his career

Eagles about to lose 2 in a row at home and will be 2 games under .500 @ 5-7. Scored 10 last week and will score 3 this week.

This is a team that in preseason were on many people's list to make the SB. Was supposed to have an explosive offense.

Yeah, yeah, I hear the arguments but Desean Jackson isn't the difference maker on the Philly team and injuries are part of the game. Next man up. DJack had a history of injuries before this season. I think Wentz has lost this team's confidence.

Iggles just scored so that's 10 points in consecutive games at home.

Eagles will be 5-6 after today.

I did not see or read that article so I have no idea on that.

Defense still getting manhandled and can’t tackle!

Maher...

16-22 on FGs.

Doink!

Dallas Football Cowboys football. Let’s just get in FG range then watch our kicker clank it off the goalpost. And get gashed by the run by a team that can’t run the football.

Garrett vs. Belichick is worth 14pts to NE.

Quinn and Lawrence should have plenty of opportunities like that, however stopping the run is problematic

We need to run Zeke.

NFL officials are criminal

Special teams is gonna loose this game

Kicking game 0 for 2 right now.

Terrible “tripping” call.

Pats just had chop block there not called.

Saw that

Amazes me how such an obvious call gets missed and a bs tripping call is made. Officiating has truly become a joke in NFL.

Ppllard again struggles in kickoff returns.. lets keep putting him in there.

Special teams have been atrocious so far

Lucky break there

[quote=Westside.]Special teams have been atrocious so far this year.


FIFY

Int! Good play by the Pats

Nice!

Bad throw by Dak..nothing on it.

Good lord, think I’ll watch Texas Flip and Move.

Off his back foot, just kinda winged it out there, terrible pass

Then Brady shows even the GOAT can make a bafmd throw...

Let’s go Dak!

Need some points here

Only difference was it didn’t get picked!

Well hell lets bench Dak and get the backup in.

Weather having big impact on the game so far. Dak doesn’t appear to be handling wet weather with pass well at all. If they can’t somehow impose their will running it could be a long day.

Keep feeding Zeke.

Couldn’t play any worse and only down 10

Dak struggling bad with wet ball!

Zeke looks like Zeke. Belicek looks like his plan is to take Dak out of the game. Playing 7 in coverage most of the time.

Run the [censored] ball twice there....dak is playing like Dakota today so far

Keep feeding Zeke.


Dak is due for a bad game...hope they let him use his legs more today.

Let him??? He's in control of that

Pathetic tackling!

I see you are off the Dak fan wagon today. Struggles for a half and time to scrap him......the GOAT just had 3 straight incompletions.......


In all seriousness Dak needs to step up his play right now. He has not looked good today.

Looked like Brady was about to pop that guy.

He is. He had a stunningly bad game today (he injured his thumb, apparently, with might explain some of it) but they are missing six starters on offense, play calling sucks, receivers had 23 drops coming into today, he has no time and gets no pocket. But he still played like trash today. Both things are true.



Never heard this critique. Never heard anything even close to it. If that’s true, that’s really bad, but I’m not sure I believe it. Link?

"Right now"

I know you spend your work days playing ping pong and eating, but you can read can't you?

It's obvious Brady can pass much better in this type of weather, to be expected of course

Thread should be cowboys suck the world. I am giving Dak some slack for playing in the rain but the Red Clapper is responsible for the [censored] play calling. Run the football.

I thought I heard it in the broadcast earlier, I could be wrong for sure, wouldn't be the first time

Smash ball

Erin Andrews throwing some shots at Aikman...

It's like Garrett did not even watch the Ravens win over NE. Its like he never saw the film.

Redheaded Jesus is gonna try to win 3 points a possession. I get so dam sick and tired of seeing he FG team trot onto the field.

2nd and 6 inside the 15 yard line and
Zeke pulls himself out of the game?
WTH?

If Dakota doesn't carry the ball on the read option 10 times today he's a coward making a business decision

Lol.....Coach debunked that a week or so ago. It ain't him choosing not to run. He does need to ignore Garrett more.

Thats why he gets the big bucks

I think it’s because he got the big bucks lol.

I believe Garrett gets wood when we cross midfield and starts yelling on the sideline field goal, field goal.

How many Eagles games have you watched this season? It would take about five minutes to realize its way worse than you’re saying and “next man up” is also absurd. They had to bring Jay Ajai in because they’ve got so many running backs hurt. Their receivers have 23 drops this season, including three game winning or tying catches, and almost their entire starting receiver core was out today. They’re missing two starting OL players and now Wentz injured his thumb.

This team stinks, and it’s deeper than just injuries, but no one in the conference has injuries like this and no team, except the Pats because they would’ve made the appropriate moves during the season, would live up to preseason hype. Plus, the play calling has been horrendous this year. And somehow they should’ve won or had chances to win every game except the one against the Cowboys.

If you watched today or any game other than the one against the Cowboys, I think you’d realize it’s way more than Jackson being hurt (who averaged something like 50 yards a catch and had two TDs on six catches) and next man up doesn’t really apply when you’re missing six offensive starters every game.

The bend don’t break philosophy just killed them on 3rd and 9. You can’t give TB12 that much time to throw the ball. He’ll pick you apart. BLITZ every now and then.

Garrett has zero situational awareness of these things.

And you believe everything coach says right?

The weather is taylormade for the read option....freaking designed for it. Run Dak run so I can stop calling you Dakota

Down 4 with a pick and blocked punt. Let’s GO!

Next time Zeke taps out Garret needs to shoot him the bird.

Yell at Garrett and Moore.

98 and 1 when leading at half. I think we’re we’ll make it 2.

Dig the enthusiasm, let's go cowboys!

Nice

Got em off the field but they need 6 not 3 on this drive. Garrett needs to manage the 2nd half to make sure NE doesn’t have the ball last. That won’t really start until about the 6 minute mark of the 4th quarter. Got to be within 1 score and not let them have the ball last.

Garret don’t manage squat. His time management is possibly the worst of any coach in the league!

Garrett tells Andrews they need to run it more. Comes out and goes 3 and out with 2 pass plays. I'm OK on the erd down play as Gallup might have scored on that one.

Maybe he’s trying to fool Belichick Mark?

Just heard Troy say Belicek will bring 5, 6 and sometimes all 7. Watch the Boys never bring more than 4 this whole 2nd half. I’ll be shocked if they bring 5 twice the rest of the game.

This team has a problem with fundamental tackling. This is day 1 stuff.

Pathetic!! 3rd and 20 and give Brady that time to convert! Bring some pressure!

3rd and 20 conversion, terrible

Brought 4.

There! Exactly what they should have done before!

Brought 5, got a sack. He’ll, I need to be running this defense.

It only take bringing 5 and they can get there yet they refuse so often!

D

Let’s Go!

Feed Zeke.

Run Zeke

Don’t panic. The boys are still in this game, despite the stupidity. Basically 3 turnovers gave the Pats 10 points. If the boys can get a 7 point drive, it would be awesome.

3rd and 3 and a 1 yard route. SMDH

Terrible play call, where's the slip screen to Jarwin

So 2 running plays in 2 drives when Garrett says tgey need to run. Aikman is questioning the play calling now.

Get Jarwin involved!! Play calling sucks!

play calling is pathetic. Hell Ray Charles can even see that

Heath is hurting but made the hit there!!

That dude will strike your arse. Not the best cover guy, better box safety.

Its crazy. Why Jerry allows Garrett to stay makes no sense

More heart than talent.

Jarwin should be more involved on those 3rd and shorts

Witten needs to go.

You think Garrett is calling the O plays?

Yes, retirement for him in vaquero is not bad, great career, first ballot HOF

Cowboys coming alive, I need a td and 2 point conversion to hit the money

Yes. I think he is micromanaging.

No doubt!

This team can’t get out of their own way! Make a play but have a penalty.

Along with Tyron Smith. He’s good for 4 or 5 penalties a game.

Untimely "holding" penalty

Yep...

Had a perfect fake then. But delay of game.

I agree. His style is all over these plays.

Delay of game then illegal motion on a gd punt situation!

That was a BS holding call

Need a turnover here

Special.teams coach should be fired immediately after this game.

Of course he's not

The refs control it all

Coaching is absolutely pathetic all the way around!! There’s no 2 ways around that.

NE going into the wind here could be significant

Make an example. That's the Jimmah way.

Hark can come out of retirement for the remainder of the season and whip 'em into shape.

Its passed pathetic a long time ago.

True dat. They changed the complexion of the game there. Very untimely for the 'Boys.

Why does he not walk over to Moore and fix it then?

I want to coach that defense. Though they have only given up 10 points, I can make em better.

24 playing 12 yards off

You and Po?

That completion on 24 again

You gotta better chance of being struck by lightening.

Those young DB are gonna be special...

Yep, that was PI.

Refs making their presence felt

....and here come the BS NFL flags

That was a legit flag.

Yep, after replay, good PI call

Great play by Bennett ... sniffed that out

It’s amazing what a DC can do when they blitz or stunt. D Law made that play on a stunt.

Bennett was a good addition

That aggressiveness should be there and our 'Boys just don't use it enough.

Defense wins championships might be a reality. They have shut down the Cowboys along with piss poor playcalling.

Good stop, now let’s get a TD

If the boys don’t score on the next possession Brady will start to pick them apart

Only down by 7. Let’s go!

Defense has done the job. Offense has to step up now.

Might as well be 24

SPecial team FU

Pollard must be retarded

Special teams Gotta be kidding me!

Troy calling the coaching out. Yessir, get after their arse Troy.

Holy smokes

Such a poorly coached team

Not prepared to play this game

Aikman just called it, poor coaching

Let’s GO!!

100% on Garrett...2 weeks and 4 bad mistakes by Pollard.

He’ll of a throw.

Aikman forgot more about football than Garrett knows
He freaking called it

Garrett call on that slow developing reverse??????????????????

Cobb

Gotta score, get a stop and game management will come into play.

Scary on the game management part

They've lost their GD mind

That was a definite zone read down and distance and they go empty???

Here comes a Garrett call !

Chickenchit kicking another FG

Garrett is an idiot.

Just crazy!! And that pitch play was lunacy

Hold the dang ball Cobb! That was scary!

You read my Mind 🤦‍♂️

Had to have 7 there. With that fg we will lose!

Aikman is unloading on the coaching calls. Lol

Just for the record Dak had an open run for at least a 1st down on that 3rd down throw

Poor coaching
Poor preparation
Poor in game coaching
poor game decisions and game management

Mental mistakes all over the place

I am with Coach. Now we win with a TD.

We need a coach with a ball sack

I see kicking the fg though....D needs one more stop and Dakota the pocket passer can have one more shot...I don't want to hear anymore Zeke is done [censored] either! He's been a grown man all day.

Yes he did.

The Pat's are up by 4 at home with a gifted short field TD....so they coaching great today or nah?

You would defend Garrett.... :he has had 10 years of nothing. roflmao:

Hey don't look now but that secondary just got burned.....again.

Nobody better at icing the cake than Tom Brady.

We are down by 4 in the 4th in Foxboro.

Need to bring 6 on this play.

Let’s Go!

Yes

The team is playing their a$$es off...that call for the FG proved to me Garrett squats to piss...
No matter win or lose, he’s CS

This is game here

Garrett better get to clapping his azz off.

Let's see what they're made of.

That is nothing more than a moral victory. Title winning teams do not accept that as OK.

I concur.

Offense has been poor today mostly due to weather and play calling. Defense has done enough but special teams been atrocious!! Coaching also bad. Time to see if Dak can get it done.

Dak folk hero time. Let’s GO

5 got it done. By my count that was the 2nd time they brought 5 this half.

Yep, but that's Garrett's thinking on the FG

Would love to see Dak make one of his first of many (hopefully) come from behind Brady like drives right now...the guy deserves it.

Time to DAK UP,.....now or go home.

At least the eagles lost.....

Dak is great this year on the blitz

I hope redheaded Jesus doesn’t kick a FG here.

Witten with another drop!! Get Jarwin in the Gd game!

Witten costing us

Will this be the beginning of an upset?

Witten has to go.

2nd drop by Witten.

whitten,.....sit.

That is nothing more than a moral victory. Title winning teams do not accept that as OK.[/quot
Nobody is taking about a moral victory

Crucial drop

Old reliable is not too good today. C’mon Witten!

No matter the result, I’m ok. We did well

That is what he does these days.

And Dakota gets his chance....Perry go dry some hose or something...I pointed out the situation....penalties about equal, defense been great, players make plays man, blaming coaching all the time shows lack of understanding because you don't have any idea what the play call was, what they were told to do, or not do....if the Pat's win it'll be because of Brady....if the boys win it'll be Dak. Simple as that.

I believe we covered this earlier

Zeke up the middle,.....stopped short.......????

2:00! At the Pats. Down by 4. Need 6. 3and1

Sounds like backyard ball dreams.

Yep
Need Coop and Cobb to make something happen here with speed

Holding 🤦‍♂️

Another daggum penalty by O-line! Freaking horrible!

Another BS call

Wtf that’s some home cooking. Not even close once again to a tripping!!

They had to get cute...

BS call

That holding call sucked,

or holding.....tripping,.....geez

Should've ran it, play call was ignorant

Scratch that. Tripping is all good in the backyard.

Refs made their presence felt again

WOW!

No Catch

Incomplete, game over

That'll be a "no catch"

Well [censored].

Agree

Incomplete pass

go get the bus.....

That was an incomplete pass.

Run it or pass it they converted and refs with another complete horsechit call!

Not a catch

These tripping calls, WTH do they come up with these? I’m not saying they would have scored anyway.

That drop is on Cooper.


This game is on Garrett.

Frankie lay it on me. Refs robed us.

if you run on 3rd down there is no tripping

I like the linebacker being the fullback, smart coaching

How does a defense allow 5 yards when everybody knows its a run?

We can have a 20mph, wind at our back, Hail Mary?!?

And then a 1st down run?

Criminal

Don’t tell Garrett. Lol. He doesn’t think in that level.

The cowboys were in this game despite the play calling, why they refuse to incorporate Jarwin more is baffling, I really think he could help on 3rd downs, and overall an upgrade over Witten

Turn out the lights, the party’s over. Don Meredith

Hopefully this will get RHJ fired.

BS call that was not tripping

Garrett can't spell fullback.

See if Garrett tries to call a 4th timeout.

Those two tripping calls would be talked about pointedly in a few minutes if I'm the coach...dgaf how much the fine is

We can only hope. To me this was his worst game as HC.

I'm surprised this game was this close. Again NE finds a way to win and the Cowboys find a way to lose.

He needs to own his own ineptness first.

Yep.

This

They covered the 6 and under 44.5. That's a win in my book.

What a wasted effort by defense. Officiating is ruining the game and deciding things way too often! Garrett is beyond pathetic and special teams couldn’t have played worse!

Patriots played poorly

Those calls sucked but lets be honest. Coaching sucked and Pats were better.

Total lack of coaching, what a waste of good talent on the field

Three 3rd downs...... converted ... negated for BS penalty ..... two tripping and one holding. You win. BS ... Home cooking

Who made the call to bring written back, if I’m written who gives a [censored], free money, no skin in the game

Who cares besides you?

Nope the pats were better

They were very "timely" calls

BS sir, I can assure you that blaming coaching when she chooses a FG instead of going for it ...in that situation
He just doesn’t have that killer instinct that the good ones do

The Boys played good today....I look forward to the day when they have a man as a head coach

After today's coaching performance surely JJ is thinking about a new coach, who ya think would be a realistic next HC for the cowboys

Jerry has to go before that happens

I know I am a homer, but I can’t see how you think this.Refs are controlling the NFL. You can go back to the Saints game last year. It’s sad.

The owner will be heading to his happy ending. BS

Never said they are not making bad calls...just said Dallas got beat by their own coaching and the Pats.

Shocker shocker shocker

Held the number one offense to 9 points, just sayin

They got beat by three BS flags when they moved the sticks. Tripping my arse. All third downs converted.

I have had too many Bud Lights,
But you got to throw the refs n there also

Are we talking by next year, or THURSDAY? Lol

They can’t even smell the end zone

Winners win losers lose...end of story...

great defense
Belicheck took Zak & Cooper out of the game
serious home cooking by the zebras

...and gave them points for [censored] and grins.

Much closer than I thought it would be, Dallas D played very well, and I think the cows organization will look at this as a moral victory. I think Jerry is probably fairly happy.

You are the only one that thinks you have some advanced football IQ. One week you are claiming the defense is gonna be special, these young DBs are special. If Romo was here tgey would be 11-0 and Dak is gonna get them all fired. Next week yiu say you were wrong about Dak, this week he's a bum and this loss is on him. You are all over tge place.

I may not have coached a 2nd grade team to the Blooper Bowl like you did but I've watched enough foitball to know Garrett sucks. Truthfully on here i trust Coach Hark's knowledge as he knows the game. He has proven your theiries wrong often...

You cannot beat the refs.... tripping my [censored]

Finally figuring that out. Winners and losers are chosen. That's why the NFL is listed as "entertainment" vs "sport" with the FTC.

Execution by the players would have won that game...show me how that's wrong

no kidding

Either, he ain't the guy, I really don't know who the next HC should be, why I asked y'alls thoughts

Sad thing is that the players will stop believing in their coach and quit playing for him, implosion

Two of those to negate first downs "big plays" and one BS holding call to negate a "big play" .... ..Watch it again. Home cooking.

They may lose against the bills

You cannot beat the refs .... does the owner of the Bills have the refs in his pocket also?

Explain to me why Pollard is still fielding kicks or making flubs on kicks 2 weeks in a row. 4 different kick screwups.
Explain to me why a team is unprepared on that punt?
Explain to me why Witten is getting so much playing time?
Explain to me why there is not more playcalling built around Dak?
Explain to me the dumb call to throw on 3rd and one before the tripping call?
Explain to me why no one ever gets held accountable for mistakes?
Explain to me why Garrett comes out and throws the players under the bus after the Vikings game to the media but turns around and calls a players only meeting and says after further review it was on him?
Explain why he has been HC for 10 years and all assistants have cycled through but he still has no in game management skills or more success?
Explain to me Aikman has now called out the play calling twice live on the air now? Is he not an expert?
Explain to me why Awuzie is still starting?
Explain to me why if its not coaching all those things above and more happen under his wtach?

Its past that time.

It’s take a special kinda guy to coach this team, given the talent and management. I agree...the puppet has to go.

And that's a sad state of affairs.

Tripping my arse ,, kill three drives in a row.... ball game

You are right
Witten is a good
he needs to go
Either to the 1st down marker
or too his ranch

Cowboys will win the division
then
lets make our calls
after the play offs
they are close

worst play calling
&
use of personal
in the history
of football

ZZ Zeke is lame

you type like Garrett coaches

Word!

When the announcer is warning the viewers about where the return man is standing in 20mph winds and the head coach is over there spitting and clapping, that’s embarrassing...or it would be to a championship organization

I did not expect them to win this game, the Pats are so damn lucky with the fumbles and batted balls, unbelievable, the two tripping calls were huge, bottom line is Dak had the chance to go down and win the game, he did not, same as the Vikings game. MVP QB my arse, I think his rating was like 50, or late in the game that is what it was. Did he ever run the ball ? Maybe once on a scramble, only way Dak is going to be great is take the damn ball and run with it , he made a huge mistake on the last field goal, clear sailing for a first down if not a TD, horrible decision.

but its not a coaching issue.

The wife had a knee surgery to repair a torn meniscus so I’m in charge of cooking. Being the Cowboys were playing and I watched the game I just went and cooked The Catch. Saying all of this because I was listening to The Ticket on the way to get food, Sturm said there has been 4 tripping calls this whole year. Three were called today. They were bad calls but I still don’t think the Boys would have scored without those 2 tripping calls. The flow of the game says they wouldn’t have. Terrible calls but good football teams overcome those calls. I don’t know.

I think Aikman would be a good coach, but he's comfortable where he's at and I don't blame him

At least the Mavs won

its a process
that you should
wrap around
wrap around
i
write

I thought they did well. Both sides were not sharp but they competed.

I agreed with Aikman on that last field goal. After that they still needed a TD not to lose. Why not go for it on forth down?

Don't you ever get tired of being wrong?

8 and 8 and no playoffs, you dont lose to the jets and make the playoffs.

Don't look now but the Jets have won a few more.

Spit twice, clap 3 times...……..……………...and smile .

They still needed a TD to win the game, you have to take the points there, was a no brainer, if they went for it and failed the game would have been over right there, they had the chance to win the game and failed.

I wasn't going to answer you until I chilled a few...because you always say this or that when you criticize anything I post, and then say it's all in good fun. Like when someone says with all due respect right before they insult you...so these are my thoughts

My issue with all of that, and even from people like Aikman, is that it's an ASSUMPTION... how would you know if the coaches addressed pollard's retardism and in the heat of the game he did a rookie thing?
How can you know what play was called and if Dak checked it? (I already said in black and white I was wrong about him as a winning QB)
How do you know that he hasn't been told run smart but run if it's there?
Brown is out, who is going to start outside for Awuzie?

And finally, your idea that he threw the players under the bus is flat wrong....they have never quit on him ever. He does not tell you and me through the media a damn thing, never has, and never will. He's not going to say we coached him all week to do this or that, and he just didn't...never. 9 times out of 10 that's more likely than believe this Ivey league educated football coach from a family of coaches just doesn't understand the game, but you do! STFU with that.

Y'all have a good week. See you Thanksgiving

1 rush for 4 yards by Dakota....if he runs it 10 times they win

I think they make the playoff's only because the rest of the division SUCKS worse than the Cows.

Really? 98-1. How in any sane persons mind can this be? Laughable

TMP,


Yet we are supposed to take your opinion as fact? You have an opinion like most of us do. You don't know that he did address all of the points I made either. Yours is no more right than the next guy. Coach H. is probably the only one of us on this thread qualified to really have any criticism that matters. I trust Aikman is closer to this team than any of us and even he has called him out twice in two different games now.

Giving Garrett benefit of the doubt why does he allow the bad play from some players continue? It's even worse if he has addressed it and is still allowing the same players to make the same mistakes. I don't think he is the right guy to get this team to the next level as a coach. We have waited 10 years now under multiple QBs and with different assistants. We are still waiting.

Urban Meyer

Tough loss! Dallas has the talent not only to make the playoff's but can do some damage if they get in. The problem is coaching! Just my two cents.

Honestly we were only a couple of plays from a different outcome.

Nope, not ever Larry

Well I am stunned....Jerry just stated this coaching staff is piling up too many bad performances.

Cows win out form here and go 11-5 and save Red Clapper

I’m not an NFL coach, don’t give me too many props even though I think I’m good enough.


But I do understand fronts, coverages, formations, schemes. It’s all pretty much the same down through college and high school. Cover 2, cover 3, man free etc is all the same. Over and under fronts are the same and an odd front is an odd front. Difference being the windows are smaller in college and even smaller in the NFL. Those guys run basically the same things as your local HS but they’re bigger, faster and stronger and everything happens so much faster especially for the QB. It usually takes then 3-4 years to adjust to the speed of the game. One quick example is the zone read which the Boys have used since Dak got here. Thing is now that DE or LB’er that is assigned to the QB is as good or better athlete than the QB. I love analyzing this team and will just post what knowledge I have when it fits in the conversation.

Do you thinks its coaching more than players that is the issue here?

I’ve made the statements in different games. I believe it was the Green Bay and Jets game I blamed the players. They get paid big money to make plays. Maybe another game I blamed the players. Coaches make calls, players make plays. It can go both ways. But just because I disagree with a call doesn’t mean anymore than anyone else disagreeing. The coaches have put in hours watching film and tendencies. I just tune in and watch on Sunday. They know a hell of a lot more than you and I on what to expect in certain situations..IMHO today was all on the coaches without a doubt. But then again I don’t have the time invested as the players or coaches. Don’t know if that answers your question.

When you say zone read, do you mean RPO coach? same thing?

Jerry Jones: "With the makeup of this team, I shouldn’t be this frustrated."

And: "I don’t think there’s a game where a coaching staff couldn’t do better. I don’t like that we’ve got so many."

Yessir. It started out as zone read in HS. Colleges adapted it and added the pass off of it then the NFL started it. It’s originally a HS football play. Nothing more than option football. Instead of dive QB, pitch it’s dive, QB, pass.

NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

They have an analytics department.....they know if Dakota doesn't run they have zero wins in 3 seasons....now just try to explain why he refuses or how it's possible that hasn't been addressed??

If you’re asking me I have no answer. I agree he needs to run the ball more.

If he has been told to run and is refusing to run then that is on Garrett as well. Even worse than not addressing it is allowing it to continue. Being in charge is a pesky thing at times when the buck stops at your feet. I doubt Dak is refusing to run, its not in his DNA to flake out. I think he is following what he is told myself.

I'm sorry there is no way this is not on Garrett. After Jerry's comments it kinda loks like he feels the same way to some extent and he is definitely dialed in to that team.

Obviously they don't read the TFF.

Can you just say what you mean please? I can't tell if you think this is all Dak's fault or if Red Clappy plays a role.

Neither does O'Brien..........

I just can't imagine Dak refusing to run the ball to help the team

They need to draft Jalen Hurts he ain't skeered, although he might drop it on the goal line.

Watching the Niners destroy the Packers does make one wonder why the cows can't come back. Wasn't that long ago the Niners couldn't beat nobody but look at them now. Dallas just continues to do the same old stuff and get the same old results. And it's not like the Packers are a bad team.

No doubt. Dude has the creativity of a pop warner coach. No offense to any of you who coach pop warner.

Texas is lacking in good NFL head coaches....college too maybe...

Young head coach with a proven record as an assistant. Built a team around the skills of his players.

I doubt it...he is probably the most competitive guy on the team. You have to be to play QB.

Hope no one checks future HOF QB Rodgers QB rating from tonight's game. It was not a good.

Wouldn't surprise me if the Forty-Niners don't go all the way this year.

So apparently, y'all think Dallas is a better team than the 10-1 Pats??

Neither does O'Brien..........[/quote]

No doubt. Dude has the creativity of a pop warner coach. No offense to any of you who coach pop warner. [/quote]

Texas is lacking in good NFL head coaches....college too maybe...[/quote]

In both cases it goes all the way to the top.

I think based on talent both teams had on the field today Dallas is better. But talent without coaching is wasted and we have proved that all year long!

Nope. The Patriots have the edge in coaching by far. I truly think at the NFL level coaching is one of the biggest advantage a team can have. So many of the players are so even skill set wise that a couple of plays per game can dictate a result. The thing with Garrett is he seems more a liability to this team. Been that way often in his tenure. One or two games you write off to bad luck but this team makes too many mental errors or does not seem prepared again and again. When Jerry says what he said tonight it seems he is seeing it as well. Harshest criticism yet of Garrett he has given.

For more tha a couple of years under Garrett

I think they had a chance to win today but poor coaching and uninspired offensive play made for a loss. Anytime you can hold the Patriots to 13 pts. There is an opportunity.

They are really good. Even their one loss was just from a bad kick on a chip shot FG.

How many carries did Zeke get today?

21 times for 86 yds.

The cowboys lack of attention to details and tendencies to cough it up showed today. The blocked punt didn’t record as a turnover, but it’s the same thing, give the patriots two short fields, spot them 10 points, and it makes it almost impossible to come back. Many times NFL games are more about capitalizing on another teams mistakes than they are about outplaying the other team, this was evident by both the saints and cowboys game today. If the cowboys don’t turn it over twice and don’t have two special teams mistakes, they win.

Bottom line is the boys likely make playoffs due to horribly weak division but go no where as coaching is pathetic and I’ll actually say it the fault is not of JJ in this case as he’s given the clapper a capable team. JJ’s only fault is trusting red Jesus to actually coach!

I will say one thing - that game was stolen by a bad tripping call on the final drive. What a joke. If we're going to have review but we can't fix that, it's an issue. All calls in the last 5 minutes of the game should be reviewable IMHO. That would have fixed the saints call last year also.

That being said, the rest was negative. The biggest upside from yesterday is that Sean Lee looked as good as he has all year. But we once again got beat in all 3 phases of the game, all game long.

Firing Jason won't even help this team long term. Until Jerry is gone and stops hiring idiots like Jason/Wade/etc., then we're not winning any super bowls. Until then, you guys just need to stop expected anything more than mediocrity. Outside of 1 or 2 fluke seasons where their true colors showed up in the playoffs, they've given you nothing but mediocrity for 20+ years. It takes a lot of stubborness to keep using the same inputs and expecting a different output.

Disagree! The talent on the field should be better than 6-5. JJ put that together and should get some credit. He is being criticized due to the clapper and staffs complete failure coaching of this group. This team is better than record reflects and many not just myself put the issues on coaching and preparation more than lack of talent!

JJ deserves credit? How can you give credit to JJ for the "talent" but not criticism for picking bad coaches?

In the words of Bill - you are what your record says you are. For 20 plus years, this team has been mediocre. This team is no different.

I do think if the Cowboys and Patriots switched rosters, their records wouldn't change much. Bill can make a good team out of average talent. Jason can make a mediocre team out of slightly above average talent.

ETA:
Your stud RB isn't even in the top 5 in rushing yards
Your stud DE has 4.5 sacks through 11 games
Your stud WR is averaging 54 yards per game if you take away one trash time lump against GB where they got thumped

Dak's stats look ok, but 21 TDs and 10 INTs isn't anything to write home about for a guy who wants $30M per year.

Should have went on 4th. If not successful, NE backed up deep, poor weather, your D is playing good, plenty of time on the clock to get the ball back.

His explanation for kicking the FG made no sense. The commentators 9n NFL Network this morning were trying to decipher his comments. They agreed he was speaking in circles.

Sorry guys I definitely had a few too many last night. And I overreacted.
BCBassCat that was in no way meant as a shot against you. I know the Pats have had an amazing run, but 98-1 when leading at half is just crazy in my mind.

The only problem with that is Eagles are only one game back and Cows schedule is so much harder coming down the backstretch. Their play doesn't qualify them for a playoff spot. That's a guarantee. Weak division and teams jumping on Philly is their only salvation. All I want this year is one playoff game. There's no need in even hoping or praying for two. They've had 11 games to get it together. They have actually played one good game all year, one. There will be a shakeup in the coaching dept by next year. You wait and see. And yes, I'm still a worn out Cowboys fan....I took my flag down this morning and it'll be flying high while I eat me some turkey dinner on Thurs. All of my hopeful predictions are wrong, so I'm looking forward to the Bills routing my Boyz in four days. GO COWBOYS!!

My sense on this was that he just didn't think they'd convert a 4th and 7.

I tend to agree that they probably wouldn't convert it, but I do think that going for it gave them the best shot to win. It was a tough call IMHO

You had the greatest coach in the NFL on one side of the field and the worst on the other.
Did anyone expect a different outcome?

Well stated!

Everybody has an opinion, to me making a fourth and 7 would have been very hard, live to fight another day, you were going to have to have a field goal to win no matter what, am I missing something ? I can hear it now had Garrett gone for either of the fourth downs and failed, what an idiot, who in their right mind would go up against the best defense in the Nfl, what was he thinking , blah blah blah.

i think the $50 million man should get those carries

The score was 13-6, using my Oklahoma math skills a TD and Extra point would of tied it up go for two and be up by one. Cowboys could of made a first down at about the two but took shots at the end zone on 2nd and 3rd down. Getting the first and a new set of downs to leave as little time on the clock for Brady to work with would of made sense. Even if JG was to get fired Cowboys would have a difficult time getting a good coach Cuz they don't want to work for Jerry. It is what it is.

[quote=Jimbo]You had the greatest coach in the NFL on one side of the field and the worst on the other.
Did anyone expect a different outcome?[/quotet

Yep. That’s why I think cows should be moral victory happy about losing 13-9. That was a close game with cows having a chance to win on last drive. They’re close.

Calling a loss a moral victory is a way for losers to feel good about themselves, this is the NFL not 7th grade football, the NFL is a business

Jerry seems to think it was a coaching issue. Is he wrong?

Dak had a really good shot at running for the first down if not a TD on that third down play, instead he tries to throw a ridiculous pass to the end zone, he had the chance to seize the moment and did not take it, it is not the first time recently that he had these opportunities and he declined. They had 3 shots to make the first down, a fourth and 7 down there was going to be really tough to make.

Had to go back to 2009 to find two tripping penalties called in one game against same team... any guesses as to who the team was?? Dallas of course. Anti Dallas national bias exists at all levels of the NFL and sports writer's association....its why Dallas is under represented in the HOF.

Perry I see coach answered your question, you didn't like the answer huh?

And you'll never hear from a coach that we told him to do A,B,C but he did X,Y,Z.....never. it'll be we didn't handle that right and we need to clean it up. Garrett tells us nothing and he shouldn't. I would not even talk to the press more than I had to to avoid being fined.

I agree with that HK, there was a lot of green in front of him when he threw on third down.

The Eagles might not win another game this year, and I’m being serious. They haven’t scored a TD since late October and they aren’t getting any healthier and Wentz had the worst game I’ve ever seen him play yesterday. They’re a dumpster fire. Might lose to the Dolphins and Giants.

some more Jerry.....


‘When we run up against an opponent that gets it together, we have a tough time coordinating how we put our offense and defense out there and have em playin’ (well) at the same time.’

I liked his answer just fine. I still have my opinion. I didn't see where his answer validated your opinion though. Jerry is even saying its the coaching. Guess he is not plugged in to the team. BTW did you see where Garrett said they DO NOT use analytics to decide what to do on that FG attempt. Only team in the NFL that does not....

Mark, I believe Jerry was referring to the special teams. Honestly what would Russell Wilson have done on that third and 7 down on the goal line ? Dak is 0-4 in big gams this year, I like almost everything about Dak but since he has stopped using his legs to make plays it has diminished his skill set.

This is a direct Jerry quote from yesterday....
‘When we run up against an opponent that gets it together, we have a tough time coordinating how we put our offense and defense out there and have em playin’ (well) at the same time.’

Fixed it for Jerry.

Dallas is a solid team, but the truth is shown by their record. The coaching is horrible and the stars of the team are not as good as everyone thinks, it shows when they play decent teams. New England is in the same boat, they struggle with decent teams. Dallas and New England have the 2 easiest schedules in the NFL this year and are in the 2 weakest divisions in football. Half of New England's schedule is Jets (2), Dolphins (2), Bills (2), Giants (1), Eagles (1) and Redskins (1). Dallas has 8 games against those same bottom dweller teams.

I really expected Dallas to win this game, but stupid calls and some unbelievable tripping penalties, 1 was absolutely false, gave the game to New England.

Dallas only has 1 or 2 games left against teams with winning records and the same goes for New England. Their records will get them in the playoffs but I wouldn't be shocked to see them both go out the first game.

As this team currently stands I have no doubt IF they make it they will be 1 and done unless some serious adjustments are made by then.

Just making the playoffs for the jersey sales alone is good enough for jerry

He sure looked like an unhappy owner last night over this team's current situation.

He should have gone for it. The field goal did not help.

Option 1: kick field goal, put them on the 20, stop them, get ball back and drive for TD.

Option 2: go for it on 4th, tie if you make it and send into OT. If you don’t make it, get ball back should be better field position than option 1 to drive for a TD.

You need a TD, option 2 is higher percentage to win I suspect.

Garrett is too analytical and maybe too smart to be a football coach. Some times you have to throw the percentages out the door and go with your gut feelings. Garrett has no guts. I'm sure taking the field goal instead of going for it on 4th down can be justified by the numbers. The defense did hold and Dak got another shot. Dallas isn't that good right now. They still have time to correct more problems, win their division, and enter the playoffs on a roll. Go Cowboys... if not, Go Garrett!

Someone may have already said this but those imaginary tripping calls were absolute [censored]. I won't go as far to say that the refs GAVE the game to new england, but they certainly did them some big favors.

So now you're hanging your hat on [censored] JJ says?

My point was "always blaming coaching is wrong" ...Coach Hark exactly validated that point if you think he knows what he's talking about, I certainly do. He's a very well respected coach in the DFW area.

JJ is maybe pissed, and maybe trying to do what he does, pushing buttons to get a better response

It was a chance for Dakota to absolutely change the narrative around him...he knew that coming in. He didn't play terribly, but he clearly did not play well enough to win. He also showed or confirmed a wet ball bad weather problem.

I believe Thursday he will rise up and take that game over. I believe it. His character is unquestionable.

this team has talent. If they get another coach you will see just how good they are. No more slow hand offs and delayed running plays, bad time outs, sloppy special teams, and I agree with others, Dak cannot just not run. He needs to run at least 4-5 times a game.

If JJ has to push buttons to get a better response then that validates a coaching issue with Garrett and his staff don't you think?

We can blame the coaching all we want, bottom line is they had a chance to win and did not. Lets just make it simple, the Pats head coach and QB are a lot better than the Cowboys.

Brady had a subpar game as well for his standards. Players do deserve some blame but at the end of the day this should get laid at the feet of Garrett. he has underperformed as HC here. No two ways about that.

There is a coaching issue...I agree. My point was simply it's not always the issue. I think the team needs a reset unfortunately

Just a thought if Bill was coaching the cowboys yesterday and Garrett the Patriots would the out come still be the same. I doubt it. I think a BB lead cowboys team wins by 30 points. Just my .02

Great thought. That’s intriguing. I tend to think it’d be a little closer though. Don’t think the cows talent is that far ahead of NE.

As far as Garrett goes, he has a good chance of winning 3 out of 5 division titles, his record over the past 5 years is one of the best in NFL, but yes, it is time for him to go, there needs to be a complete house cleaning, I would take Urban Meyer, i think he is the most qualified to be an NFL head coach.

That's a nice way to say the Cowboys are undercoached.

The only the shocking the world about the Cows is that Garrett still has a job.

I missed the game. I hear my first place Cowboys lost to the best team in football by 4 points?

Chris, they could have and should have won except they didn't. Like Minnesota. Like New Orleans. Like the NY Jets.

There are no moral victories.

Just win , baby !

I hear ya. Everyone said Brady was going to hang 40+ on us. Defense must have showed up.

Plus it was 40 degrees, windy and raining like crazy - terrible weather makes for a low scoring contest.

Patriots play down to their competition and don’t get serious until the opposing team scores a touchdown which the Cowboys never did

If anyone is watching Ravens r legit

Now we can the refs beat out boys

https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/c...owboys-vs-patriots-were-incorrect-calls/

I think the patriots are pretty much playing with their food until the playoffs

Yes they are

Mark Perry and txmaster, I enjoy and respect you both on opinions on the Cowboys and other topics. Please don’t throw me in your conversation to take sides. I’m a HS football coach and posting my opinions. It doesn’t mean I have the answers, I just have been involved in football for about 45 years. I’ve attended countless clinics and visited several colleges to learn the game but it doesn’t make me an expert. Thanks fellas.

Coach your opinion is greatly valued! Most, including my own opinion is fan based not experience based! I know some football but played baseball through college and not football. Your insight is appreciated!

No worries here. As was posted i value your opinion and my apologies if it put you in an uncomfortable situation. I enjoy the banter about the Cowboys on here and consider many friends on here so its like hanging out and cutting up with good friends. All you guys have a great Thanksgiving. Take care.

Its a shame that the refs can help determine the outcome of a close game but it happens, and it will continue to happen for whatever reasons.....Maybe their vision was blurred because of all the wind and rain?

Now the NFL is saying that both tripping penalties were incorrect calls....Well, you dumbazz, now you come clean!

Oh lord, now we are going back to the super bowl

Coach Harkness....though our tone might seem harsh with each other, Mark Perry is a good man, a fireman, and was very kind to me when my dad died....Dad was a a football player at SOC in the late 50's early 60's, and hung out with some old cowboys scouts and players from that era....He was a Dallas firefighter for 30 years, and a coach later in life at the high school level. So Perry, though he is irritating about Dakota all the time, is like family. You should please correct us both when we say something stupid, mostly him though!

Now, Dakota can't run like this kid, because he is not nearly as fast....but he is fast enough that 10 rushes a game out of different formations, would make him so much better. This is the single thing that they can easily do to change the season. If he suddenly starts taking off they have to watch it, and that changes the pass coverage assignments. Run everyone off and run the damn ball straight up the field until they stop it.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...e-like-lamar-jackson-and-hes-unstoppable

99-1 now when leading at half in Foxboro.

Yessir.

Yessir

Now you dudes pull some strings with the organization and I’ll get them on track. I remember walking into the Astrodome in 1991 coaching at Killeen HS and playing for and winning a State Championship. I told a couple of the coaches I should be coaching here on Sundays. The first time I coached at Texas Stadium, coaching at SGP in 1997 I told the HC the same thing. I should be coaching here on Sundays, he told me if we lost I’d be coaching at Jackson MS. The good ole days. We won that game at SGP and I got to stay at the HS.

Sup

I bet you wish that was a cow.

Is it a possibility that we could stretch this thread a little and extend it into another game day Cowboys "Official thread"? Let's do it!

Cowboys will leave plenty of meat on the bone today while being totally embarrassed by a 20-point deficit. Bills just absolutely steamroll my Boyz by a tune of 30-10. Jerruh fires Red Snapper during post-game interview, suffers massive heart attack while on TV, is able to survive but loses eyesight and speech and can no longer be in command. Cowboys miss the playoffs, but Stephen and company take the team and soar to heights they've never been to by winning the SOOOOOPA in the next 5 consecutive years. Mark my word, the almighty will have 10 rings by 2025. Hold on you die-hard fans, things are finna change for the best!

WE 'DEM BOYZ!!


Jerruh's new caretaker...….

^^^^That's an ender.

Let’s keep the positivity going!