Dove hunting with Ratz

i didn't ask him exactly who was going this weekend, but he did tell me he was taking some of the home brew with him. I hope you guys have a great time and your insurance premiums are current.

Avoid at all costs.

I'm not sure I would trust to many of you with loaded guns.

Prayers

Watch out for stairs if there are any dogs around

And dogs if there are any stairs around.

Rude

Ratz, guns, alcohol


Nah

Hunting with Ratz is like playing Russian roulette

I haven't shot anyone in all my years of hunting. Unless you count that guys dog who kept stealing our birds. I peppered him pretty good.

Did you see Iconn4’s post? That dog was probably framed by Lucky. Now how do you feel?

Si señor

Annual reminder to not pepper dogs with birdshot.

I'm taking my chances.

Doesn't Ratz always promise a "surprise guest" at his G2G's? Rumor has it this fellow will be joining you, so you guys be careful out there.

Needs two more hats

3 Hats RATZ pepperin dogs and friends

and stairs

What could possibly go wrong?

I think I would have a better survival chance if I was to try and swim cross the river in the Serengeti with it full of hungry crocs.

Just to be sporting, make sure that section of river has hippos and crocs.

I think you’d be ok with the combo mentioned above, but when fent joins the party all bets are off.

I'll even mix in a lioness that has been shunned and needs to make a kill to show the pride that she is worthy.

We should let David Attenborough know about this plan.

I'm not feeling much love in this thread.

and whats with the stairs comments?

I don’t get it either

I wish someone would let me in on the inside joke.

You gotta get your mojo working, first.

I will have you know that my mojo is in peak condition, sir. Thank you very much.

I hunted with Ratz last year and I'm doing it again. Really looking forward to it actually!!

JR

my mojo is fine, and still have no clue what you are talking about

Watch out for the hats and maps also

I get the three hats, now what's with maps

#mapandnap

Stop by and say Hi. We will be in that same spot as always right when you turn in!

If you need a hype-man to intro your posts let me know. Here’s a sample of what I can do...

ON TEDS LAND? IF SO LOOK OUT FOR ME IN A wHITE DODGE]

Stop yelling at him

He already has his hearing protection activated.

Electronic muffs for the win

Thanks Saw...Kinda like walk up music?

I will do it. I will be in the gray Chevy.

Is that a Remington 1100?

Two boxes of shells is all you need? I’m impressed.

Yes sir, it was my grandfather. He bought that gun in 1965. Still looks brand new.

I thot you were already married.

Very nice gun. I own an 1100 light weight 20 gauge. Shot a bunch of doves with that gun.

Well dove hunting with Ratz ends up with one in jail. Ratz tried to calm him down at the hospital didn’t work.

need the story behind that please

The peach moonshine got him. Dam peaches.

Man you guys go hard

Lol

WTF

WTH

This is gonna be beautiful

Georgia Peach beautiful

Mad props to Matt Jackson for snapping that pic #GOAT

Who all is attending this soirée?

Moonshine and hunting don’t mix but seriously full details will be needed!

1st we need to know why y’all are at the hospital. 2nd we need to identify everyone in the pic, their role in the trip to the hospital, as well as, their role in the arrest. We’re going to need these questions answered ASAP.

I tried to warn them, did I not?

I suspect this is the gold coin all over again

Well one May have had to many peaches then stumbled, and ended up with a smashed face needing some stitches. Ratz is behind him trying to contain madness and another fellow Brandon. The poor fellow on the ground thought he was going to have a prostate exam, them became rowdy. The cops were called and contained the situation. All is well at this time, but we still have tomorrow being the first day of dove hinting.

Very expensive dove hunt for someone....

Excuse the miss spelling there has been some moonshine passed around.

I'm in for next year, marking it down right now.

Go ahead and pencil me in.

Ratz loves LIVE PD. Did he deploy a taser and call in the canines?

That cop looks like he could eat poor RATZ!!!

Heck I’d go just to watch!! Forget hunting!

Check out the womens faces.

Isn’t that what Ratz is doing in that picture? Why did he toss his glove on the bed and go at it bare-handed?

Is that Detective Butch doing the cuffing?

All hell gett'in ready to break loose in 15 minutes. 7:05 A. M.

This is why I don't attend these types of gatherings.

Is hospital availability something that needs to be discussed when planning future GTGs?

Vagina

I now know the story about the hospital visit and "the picture". I'll let Ratz give the details later if he chooses, but the person on the floor getting the new bracelets is not a TFFer, but was a member of the hunting party.

And has a freshly checked prostrate thanks to RATZ

More events like this just may bring back the mojo.

Getting arrested on saturday of labor day weekend is poor planning. Judge wont show up to set bail till tuesday lol. A clear amateur at work here.

So is the arresting officer the surprise guest we’d been hearing about?

Yup, poor guy is supposed to fly out for San Francisco for a business trip Tuesday, lol.

Something tells me he may want tidy up his resume.

Lol, I'm sure he is having a good time with the Haskell county meth monkeys

If only they had let him heal and sleep it off at camp....

Right, throw some super glue on the gash then duct tape it, let 'em sleep and wake him up for the afternoon hunt next day.
Bunch of pansies when they see blood and always wanting to take someone to the hospital! That's just ruining a man's normal weekend.

Oh and if you don't have super glue, just bust a shell open and pour the gunpowder in the gash and light it up. Cauterize that baby, a drunk ain't gonna feel it.

Update?

Whole crew might be in lock-up by now.

Did they fix his face?

Yep, super glue duct tape what happens #ratzdovehunt2019, stays there

The 410 belonged to my dads grandmother, then my dad hunted with it, I hunted with it and now my son got to hu t with it.

Very cool

Awesome.

Totally Awesome! It just don't get any better!

Yes it is

Detective butch
would never
wear a vest
like that

what is the cable
strung through
the barrel?

Any bail set yet?

so thats real?
thats awesome

Gun lock. Any gun you own should have 6 of em.

So are yall getting the idiot out or just loading up and leaving him lol.

i see
threw the 1 away for
somebody's
Glock

He got lucky, theybdidnt even book him, they let him go this morning.

Wow. That is lucky.

So how many birds did yall get?

Not much, not many birds where we hunted. Ratz is already looking for a new place.

Averaged about 9 in the metro mess area in a corn field. Better than last year

So cool coach, love that

Glad y’all had a good time . Nice pic coach

Great pic coach
Never underestimate that peach shine

so here is the story. One of my best friends got way to drunk on Saturday night. Might have been from the tons of shine he drank. well he fell and tripped over a folding chair and busted his lip and it looked like hamburger with chunks of flesh hanging. So we loaded him up and took him to the local hospital which was not 2 blocks away. he was still very drunk and kinda combative with the nurse. well he calmed down bit, but not great. When they decided to give him a tetnis shot he came unglued. I tried to get him back in the bed but he started to rep of heart leads. When the nurse said they'd give it to him standing he pushed/punched her in the chest. So I grabbed him and tried to calm him down then he tried to fight me. As much as I wanted to beat his azzz then he started to to try and fight me. I was able to hold his arms down, and went to do a leg sweep, but he got away. He started to kick me in my left leg. Now I really wanted to swing at him, but not in a hospital. He then pushed/hit the nurse again so we went at it. Had each other in a head lock, but I was fine and could breath. They called the sheriff who was there in 30 seconds it seemed. The deputy gave him several chances to calm down but the he got up and took a swing at him, so the deputy threw him to the ground. I got behind and crossed his legs and put my knee into them so he couldn't struggle much. He cuffed him and then he started to run his mouth off at the deputy. This was really a good thing cause he was so drunk he would have tried to start a fight with one of us when we got back to the house we stayed at. While the deputy was putting him in his truck he was again cussing the deputy and giving him hell. The deputy told us it would be Tuesday before he'd get out being s holiday weekend. Well we went back and enjoyed to cold beer. I knew I'd have to call his wife, but decided to wait till morning as there was nothing she could do then. He was supposed to fly to San Fran on Tuesday. So him not getting out till Tuesday would most likely cause him to lose his new job. Well we called up to the jail the next morning to see how it was going, and they said we could come get him then. Well we picked him up, and he didn't remember anything other than his jacked up lip and blood that was all over him. He decided not to hang around and hunt with us Sunday afternoon. He was very embarrassed, and his pride was hurt.S o he piled up his stuff and drove home.

Redneck glory, did you have kids out there too? Just wondery

Faso had four kids with us. all they saw was him trip and fall they stayed with friends while everything went down at the hospital

No way I’d continue being friends with the guy. I don’t care how “drunk” you are, if you swing at or hit a woman you’re a massive POS.

Sweep the leg lmao

He's been one of my best friends since we were 11 years old. Not defending him, but it was more of a hard push to her chest, which is when and why I jumped in to hold him down. There is no excuse for what he did, regardless of how drunk he was. He's got a drinking problem and I hope this opens his yeys that it's time to stop drinking or at least get it under control.

Not even a little bit of forgiveness in your body huh?

Not for a woman hitting POS. Nope, not a single bit.

Sorry all this happened. Kinda puts a bad light on but was certainly supposed to be a fun and family-oriented trip.

It does sound like your friend might have a bit of a drinking problem. And I'm not judging. I love to drink myself. But you have to know when to say when.

If you are getting physical with women, police officers and your friends... Way past time to say when. Hopefully this is a big wake-up call for your buddy.

And please don't bring this friend on our Texoma trip LOL. We are all men of peace.

Just a pitiful story lol.

he dosen't fish so he won't be coming on that trip. It might be awhile before I do anything with him.

If alcohol causes problems in your life, your an alcoholic. sound like this might be the case. prayers for that young man, sorry it happened.

Unreal.

Let's not get all preachy, the guy is clearly a moron and morons do stupid stuff drunk or sober.

Sounds like blood alcohol poisoning...….blacked out! That's scary when you don't remember anything the next day. It's time he assesses his life.

Probably a few of them could

well the nurses saw my shunts when my hat came off when we were going at it and they told me that if I needed anything to come back and they would take care of me for sure. I made sure and apologized to all of them and they were very nice and thankful for what I did to help.

Where was my invite

No one trying to do their job should get assaulted by a drunken jerk. Your "friend" is lucky, because the assault of emergency services personnel (ER nurse) is enhanced to a felony. I'm biased , but his butt should still be in jail...

Well done.

Sounds like a Tater Salad story! I guess he figured out how many deputies they were going to use!

Lol I’ve never heard of someone being so annoying that the police just want to let you out early.

Small town

Nothing ever good comes from homemade shine on fishing or hunting trips. Some guys had some on one of our Calcasieu trips. It was in a gallon jug. The think they actually called it homemade whiskey. I took a small sip because they insisted. My remarks were “nothing good is going to come out of that jug”. A couple of hours later a guy runs upstairs and says “Ron and Shawn are fixing to throw down.” They are some good sized old boys. We all look at each other and no one moves. Someone says tell them to have a good time.

Homemade whiskey is now banned. Plus a couple weren’t asked back. We are too old for that nonsense.

I can’t stop laughing

I was with CCTX when he was drinking a little of that peach shine, he turned into the happiest person in the world. I was ready to swoop in with a leg sweep if things got ugly though.

That shine is strong (I only drink on fishing/camping trips)
I had maybe 3oz and knew that was plenty
Could still feel it the next day.

I want to see RJ try to sweep your leg.

I'd be on him like a chicken on a junebug

You are a pecker

like this?

I'd fight anyone here on some shine

I'm more of a choke slammer though.

This thread has far exceeded all expectations. Mojo.

Thread of the year

If it would have been a tffr it would potentially been a top 10 all time

Yes, I'm very disappointed that it wasn't a TFF'er.

I think at the very least the pic of the idiot on floor should make the cover

With them drinking it, or you drinking it?

And Matt Jackson is 100% deserving of a Pulitzer!!!

Top 5.

I would like to hear his version of the events at the hospital, and anyone else that was there.

Damn right

Ok now I don't know who to believe. My SIL is a Judge and her and my brother say she is on the clock 24/7/365. He says she is expected/has to go to set bail on deals like this pretty much when it happens. Oh yeah the county has 1 town of 3,500

Thank y’all gentlemen, Not only a great story but the closure needed in a great thread! Well done.

They have to perform the magistration within 48 hours of booking. They can go 72hours under certain circumstances

I must admit it was a compelling thread and I found myself checking it several times.

It's making me reevaluate my stance on tff type functions, I may have to attend if stuff like this happens on the reg.

Now that we are neighbors I will invite you to the crawfish boil. These are known to get a little out of hand. Add the new neighbors there may be a few divorces

I believe the person on the floor is probably a TFFer and this story is a cover up. Can we get a list of all TFFers on this trip so that we can confirm the innocent?

Wasn't me. My face is fine...

Absolutely, hopefully I'll have time to chase crappie with you soon. I think my schedule is clearing a bit

Lol, is a small fellow as ratz weighs about 20 lbs and appears much larger, he appears to have penguin arms too

yeah
thats the way to win

he is lucky
he is not beaten
to a pulp
or
6 feet under
idiot

good job Ratz
on helping him

yep
this is unbelievable

no doubt

holy moly, hope your ok Ratz

Backstory on this pic please?

He was an extra in American History X.

Say no more.

Ugly story but very entertainingly told.

Here's how you handle drunks.

I'm not gonna lie, when I first saw the picture I thought it was Hopalong but I couldn't find any holes on the top of his head.

TFFers at the house were me Ratz, Matt Jackson, and JRGOCARDS. DV was staying in Abilene

I'm behind the deputy with his legs folded up and my knee in them so he couldn't kick

You and Ratz?

don't confuse me

so it was JR

I had to leave the following morning without hunting for a family emergency. Despite the drama and having to leave too early - I had a good time.

JR

I would drive from Alabama for next year's opening weekend. Pure OT Gold!

Got to admit that sitting around listening to Matt read the posts after he posted the picture was a good time

JR

dang

hope everyone is alright though

Thanks Butch. Time will tell. MIL fell and broke her pelvis - on her 84th birthday. No surgery, but some painful rehab in her future.

JR

Sorry to hear that.

Hope she's doing alright.

So no one took a picture of the lip? You have to take a picture of the injury before administering first aid, everyone knows that.

Probably had a high gum line, that will blind an unsuspecting cameraman.

This will sound bad but considering it was a MIL I might have stuck around and shot a few birds before racing back.

And probably still better off than our friend.



Hope she gets better.

Sooooo, you and the unnamed TFFer both left the next day? Hmmmm

I talked to my buddy today. He's apologized about 100x so far. He knows he screwed up. Good news is his wife took it better than he thought she would so no divorce in the future. He doesn't really remember much of what happened. He's lucky he got out when he did cause he was supposed to fly to san fran today for work. This is a job he's only had for a couple months. I hope he really looks into getting some help with his drinking. I don't know how to tell him he needs to get it under control if this little lesson didn't open his eyes. I hope his wife lays down the line and makes him get some help.

we should start a TFF rehab center

No TFFer has a problem with abusing any substances. I could give you a laundry list of TFFers to ask, and none of them would say they have a problem

Do tell.

When you get violent as a drunk, you need to stop big time. Its one thing to get drunk and have a drinking problem, but you go crazy as a drunk it should be over.

Haven’t been around jackwads that get police involved after drinking since high school. Maybe early college, that’s just a bad move after 18.

Pretty much.

I don't blame him, they were breaking out the guns the next day.

Didn't you supply the shine?!!

I’ve been sworn to secrecy. If I tell, the clique mafia will send their hitman to come whack me.

Maybe take better care to make sure the violent drunk doesn’t have access to moonshine? Maybe use the “hey, remember when you assaulted me and those nurses in the hospital? No? I think you need to stop drinking” card?

Or, “hey bud, I’ve been meaning to tell you, I don’t feel comfortable around you when you’re drinking, especially after you assaulted me and two nurses and got arrested the night before opening day.”

well there have been
at least 2 cats
seeking rehab
recently

IMHO
rehab is for
P's

Text him a link to this post may be a good start. I have no tolerance for violent drunks.

Ratz, are you sure you should be casting stones lol

Make sure I get an invite next year. I wanna make the cover of TFF

Go big or go home.

You shouldn't fault people who are getting the help they need. The P's are those who say they don't need help and continue their downward spiral because they are scared to face their demons.

Jesus, the guy got drunk and acted a fool. It's not the end of the world, I mean who hasnt busted his face open, hit a nurse and got arrested a time or two. Yall act like a bunch of women.

I have never busted my face open

Then wth is wrong with it?

Getting help and admitting you have a problem is the hardest part of the battle. I dont care what route someone takes to getting sober as long as they do, it's the end result that matters.

No stones being casted. I've let yall know what happened. i haven't made him my exfriend, and I've never gotten violent when drunk and assaulted people much less a woman. I'll be there for my buddy and hope he gets some help.

^^^ No way I am hanging out with anyone who is a mean drunk. I would tell him either he stops drinking or find new friends.

Add woman hitter to that. No way I’d call this guy or anyone of that caliber a friend.

if you want to quit
quit
rehab isn't going to do anything

maybe help dry out

All studies show that those with a strong support system have the best odds of recovering from an addiction.
Whether it's rehabilitation through the church, family support, temple, AA, Betty Ford, group therapy, etc; your odds of quitting an addiction are greatly improved with the support system they provide.

A few can do it successfully on their own.

very few.

This thread keeps getting better and better. Thank you Ratz, you the real MVP.

*you’re

RJ deserves some credit as well here.

RJ's first post in this thread is a warning that basically says "With great power, comes great responsibility"
Which is the appropriate thing to say prior to a hunting trip with children. RJs advice was not taken.

Thank you JayQ42

Nurses get punched, slapped, bit, kicked, pushed and spit on all the time by people that aren't in their right mind. The dude was out of control but he's not the anti-Christ. Anyone that hasn't had a friend that was a mean drunk hasn't had many friends IMO. It made a great, funny story that we will be talking about or referring to on the OT for years

well said.

In all honesty Ratz. The leg sweep is a difficult move to master. If I was you I would take the Diemon Dave Ninja School classes and work on mastering the Judy Chop. You'll be much better prepared for next year. Your hands will be lethal weapons soon. So please remember. Don't Go Ninjin, Nobody That Don't Need Ninjin

Ratz is far more advanced in his martial art training than what he’d learn at Diemon Dave Ninja School. At the very minimum he should consider Rex Kwon Do, but the ideal training would come from Fred Simmons. Fred’s Biography and life story has been captured on film in “The Foot Fist Way” and is a must see.

As much as Rex kwon do would help, I would argue that Ratz should buy an 18 wheeler (with no A/C), Rio the bed out of the sleeper part of the cab, and install a weight set back there. Then once he wins the arm wrestling championship of the world, he can work on sweeping the leg. Upper body strength is a necessary component in leg sweeps.

having done rehab, twice, I can tell you it works. first time was thru the va in temple, 90 days inpatient and another 90 in a halfway house. second time was court ordered and also when I got my wake up call due to a dui. not all that far apart either and totally my fault for drinking again.
it all depends on the person and how bad they want to stop drinking, but rehab is a vital step in sobering up.

[quote it all depends on the person and how bad they want to stop drinking.[/quote]

This is it in a nutshell.

You have to want to stop. Regardless of the issue, if you don't want to change, it ain't going to happen.

Or moonshine.

What about moonshine guns?

This is a case where truth is absolutely stranger than fiction. It would be hard to make this up.


Thread of the year nominee !!!

the moonshine wasn't to blame. We all drank plenty of it. He was the only one to blame for getting too drunk and losing his cool.

So you're not accepting any of the blame for providing the guy with the moonshine?

I had plenty of the moonshine and even ate a few of the peaches. I think it was a combination of the multiple beers, moonshine and drinking a lot of “ranch waters” (tequila and soda water).

So there was much more alcohol involved than just the shine? Hmm

Also who tf are you?

B IS MY BUDDY FROM THE INDY TRIP

Why are you yelling? Stop it

sorry was on my phone

So you can post from your phone?


The plot thickens.

Like I said everyone has some shine, and beer, he just overdid it which he has been known to do

So you're not at home?

Only before 9:00

no I'm home now. Just can't send out multiple pm's from my phone to much of a hassle

What about 1 pm to multiple people?

sure I did it

I don’t know what to believe.

This many people present and still no pictures of the lip.

I feel some are taking this to far. Was what he did right? No, but was it handled and taken care of immediately YES. Do I condone the behavior absolutely not. We have all made mistakes in life. To cast a stone is ridiculous, and I can tell you he felt the weight of his mistake the next day. We were all there to have a good time and tried to take care of each other the best we could. He really did need medical attention, that a first aid kit or super glue wouldn’t achieve. Ratz is a hell of a guy that I’m sure would give the shirt off his back if you needed one as well as the rest that were there. Don’t point fingers or place blame. This individual made a bad decision and I believe he did learn/regret the following day. The rest of the trip was a good time. There was a common lesson to the young that started before this incident that was don’t be an as* hole. That lesson may stick with them the rest of their lives. He was being an as*hole and ended up where as*hole end up, but I would still take another trip with him tomorrow. Just a little more cautious. Also stay off of B he is a hell of a good guy I’ll yell it if I have to.

B is ok, let's not get carried away here.

Really?

I'll just leave this here...

This deserves it's own thread.

I know, right?

Oh my. I had forgotten about that.

Do you have a shaved head and alligator arms?

As long as none of this changes your decision making when faced with the next OT G2G “should I or shouldn’t I take the picture” situation, I’m good with whatever you say Matt.

Matt didn't even take the pix he just the one who posted it

TRIP-here is the best one i could get of his lip. he was in a good mood then

Sounds like a good time was had by all.............

That's not even worth an ER visit

lol, yep

if you could see the chunk of meat hanging down you would have thought so

They should have arrested all of them. General dumbassery would be the appropriate charge

Looks like harmless rookies to me. lol

Looks like he may have survived until morning when he sobered up.

It looks like from that picture to the other one was an unexpected, dramatic turn of events.

Same here - the shine went down easy and the peaches, not so much. He went from 6.5 drunk to 10.0 (1-10 scale) in less than an hour, so the shine definitely had something to do with it, but he was chugging it vs. taking a quick swig. There were 7 other adults partaking and no one else had a problem.

As far as Ratz shutting down his friendship due to the incident - that's up to him. I personally would not have problem if he came back next year (assuming I get invited again). He was there last year and i found him to be a very likable guy. In fact he was likable at the lodge this year, but I didn't see him at the hospital.

JR

Waking up with his lip stuck to the pillow would have been a valuable lesson.

Chugging vs sipping.

Drugs is a hell of thing.

With a secondary charge of being a bunch of poons and going to the ER.

How did you all get to the hospital? Hoped you Ubered as everyone had been drinking.

The guy messed up. It happens due to an apparent string of bad decisions. Glad nobody was seriously hurt including those that were assaulted.

If he was driven to the hospital by either a drunk/buzzed driver, then real glad that the lot of you didn't get in an accident or killed a family of five. That would have been a bad decision of more epic proportion.

the hospital was less than a 1/10 of a mile away. I had had about 3 beer over a 2 hr time frame

you do not owe an explination

And no moonshine?

I just noticed the dude pointing his fingers in the picture is looking at...well not a taco.

Less than 160 yards away? Why not just walk after drinking?
And that 3 beers in 2 hours is a pretty standard answer that I bet cops hear a lot when pulling over people that have been drinking.

Apparently not

the couldn't stand much walk so we drove him

him-and yes i had a sip do the shine not chugging it like he did

I guess I'm to blame for the whole thing. Sorry we brought it up to y'all. We figured y'all get a laugh out of it, but I guess it's just a way to blame me and not the guy who overdid it and busted his face open.

If we can get 3-4 more ordained ministers to post on this thread it'll get to 30 pages.

and no Aspermont Tx doe not have UBER

Taken a couple nips of that shine today?

Bless you, my son. How long has it been since you last confessed?

A confession thread could get interesting.

Speak freely, my son. You are amongst friends.

Side note- I need a new altar boy. Would you like to audition?

No thank you.
That reminds me of a joke about why altar boys hair is parted in the middle.

Lulz