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A Cancer story

Posted By: JackCaster

A Cancer story - 12/04/18 02:05 PM

I've been in and around TTF for a few years lurking more than posting. I enjoy the back and forth (albeit predictable) with the members and the good fishing info which is sometimes available. I am posting today to pass on a link to a website describing one mans battle with cancer. I don't usually do things like this but being a cancer survivor myself (3yrs remission, stage 4 oropharyngeal) I'll share anything like this I come across if I believe it might help someone beat the disease. I was at a funeral last weekend for an older generation family member and while talking to one of my cousins, he brings this story up. He went to school with this guy in Stillwater and vouched for him as real and genuine. With that as my verification, I am compelled to share. The website is https://www.mycancerstory.rocks.
Think of it what you will but I am completely onboard with him. I sat in the chemo ward watching countless people getting treated (notice I said treated not cured) and being a business guy, I was very aware of the hundreds of thousands of dollars that went in and out of the Texas Oncology office daily. In my case, BC was billed a little over $500k for my entire treatment of surgery, chemo, radiation, rehab and hyperbaric chamber (not counting the ongoing follow ups). The incentive for the industrial medical complex IS to continue to treat, not cure. Success in cancer treatment is based on a 5yr timeline. If they get you to 5 yrs post treatment, you have been successfully treated. If you live longer, you are "lucky". Enough of me, go to the site and read Joe's story. It's good.

Brian Engelking (aka JackCaster)
Posted By: Jpurdue

Re: A Cancer story - 12/04/18 02:38 PM

I'm 100% in support of people with a terminal cancer diagnosis trying whatever they please. Why not? The risk reward math is always going to be in their favor. That said, one thing to be mindful of here, is that spontaneous remission is a thing. Nobody knows exactly how often it happens, but its estimated to occur in roughly 1 in 100,000 cases. So with 15 million people living with cancer in the US, we'd expect several hundred stories of folks who are "miraculously" cured of cancer every year. Further complicating matters essentially all of those cancer patients were treated in some fashion or another. As a result causal relationships can be extremely difficult to determine. So to be clear here, I am not saying this guy wasn't cured by dog de-wormer, as he claims, but I am saying there could be alternate explanations. By all means it sounds like an angle worth exploring. Remember also that the first person to "solve" cancer will be famous and wealthy beyond all measure. There is a strong incentive to solve this blight on humanity. If a particular treatment holds promise you can bet some of best and brightest are looking at. Thanks for sharing.
Posted By: nethingthatbites

Re: A Cancer story - 12/04/18 02:46 PM

Making your posts count! Thanks for sharing...I could echo Jpurdue.

I'm onboard with following any lead. And especially in terminal cases, people should be allowed to try/volunteer for any experimental, unapproved, etc. treatment they please.
Posted By: Okie Poke

Re: A Cancer story - 12/04/18 02:51 PM

Absolutely unbelievable story....who woulda thunk a dog dewormer? Thanks for sharing and thanks to Dr. David Sturgeon.
Posted By: JackCaster

Re: A Cancer story - 12/04/18 04:24 PM

The poignant part of the story for me was that fenbendazole was looked at and tested for cancer back in the 80's but due to the patent expiring and limited ability of the drug company to profit, further testing was not pursued. How many times has this happened on other drugs? Not trying to be a conspiracy nut but we are a pretty advanced society and have been able to overcome/cure/eliminate many viruses and diseases. Curing cancer would seem to be a pretty simple task in the big picture yet it is unaccomplished. My personal conclusion... we do have an industrial medical complex (to go with the industrial military one) and following the money leads to drawn out treatment vs curing. Just food for thought and my $.02.

B
Posted By: Duck_Hunter

Re: A Cancer story - 12/04/18 04:27 PM

Very interesting.
Posted By: kcb

Re: A Cancer story - 12/04/18 07:07 PM

Read enough of the blog to get the gist of it. Pretty amazing story. Blessings to the author and others who have had success.
Posted By: SheldonS

Re: A Cancer story - 12/04/18 10:51 PM

Interesting story but I'm always skeptical of things that I really want to be true.
Posted By: Icepick

Re: A Cancer story - 12/04/18 11:52 PM

Originally Posted by SheldonS
I'm always skeptical of things that I really want to be true.


This is a wise statement.
I do agree with the belief that the medical complex is geared toward treatment and not cure.
Posted By: TexasBlonde

Re: A Cancer story - 12/05/18 12:32 AM

I agree there are too many large, profitable cancer treatment hospitals for them to ever really find a cure for it. It is similar to them keep lowering the A1C so more and more people are being diagnosed as being type 2 diabetics. Frankly, I think the insulin pens they give you to treat it make sure you really will be a diabetic.

Of course, there are many cancer patients like my father who died from something else due to the treatments. He came down with pneumonia after going quail hunting and died from pneumonia. His blood just did not have enough white cells to fight the infection due to radiation treatments. I still miss him and our talks.

Wow! That is an awesome story and it is to his credit he is a voracious reader or he would not have come up with that combination to get his cure. My father ate full cumin seed pods hoping it would help cure him, but it did not help.

Posted By: jackiekennedyfishingguide

Re: A Cancer story - 12/05/18 11:50 AM

Long story short:
I had renal cell cancer in 1999 the VA hospital removed my kidney and all was fine. They got it all and no follow up treatment at all. They kept a close eye and tested me every way for Sunday for several years. In 2003 a small knot came up on my neck. It was Lymphoma non Hodgkin's they gave me chemo followed by radiation. in 2007 another lymph node showed up on test. Gave me chemo again. In 2009 they started me on a 2 year maintenance dose of chemo. All is and was fine until 2016 and I had a TIA went temporary blind in one eye for about 15 minutes. The VA put a stint in my left artery. Later I learned from a doctor friend the maintenance dose was an experimental drug that was developed for some other disease. He stated we can't say we have a cure for cancer but what you had is dang close. I'm far from well but still manage on a daily basis to continue to live my life to the fullest I know how. Never give up, something is going to get you. Live every day like it's your last-one day you will be right.
Posted By: ReelBusy

Re: A Cancer story - 12/05/18 01:05 PM

I don't wholly buy into the belief that the medical/pharm industry isn't interested in a cure. How do you explain the cancer cures\vaccines that are now available? Cancer doesn't have a single cause. No doubt medical companies will willingly use patients as guinea pigs but the fear of lawsuits will stifle some research.

What does drive me crazy is how many people will keep smoking knowing it can cause cancer. I hate cancer and I hate smoking. bang
Posted By: donothin

Re: A Cancer story - 12/05/18 01:22 PM

Cure is definitely being worked on and I think some kind of genetic engineering will eventually be able to find a cure at least for some types of cancer. It will not likely be a one size fits all solution.
Posted By: ReelBusy

Re: A Cancer story - 12/05/18 01:31 PM

The drug in the dog dewormer.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3580766/
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