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Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners

Posted By: ZX-250

Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/01/18 01:16 AM

Fixing to pull the trigger on one. Curious as to what kind of gas mileage between 6.2gas and 6.7 diesel people are getting Not pulling much other than a Skeeter, but looks like Diesels hold the value. For those that have those years what's your thought.
Posted By: Ghost4BH

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/01/18 01:19 AM

Why would you spend that much money on a truck just to pull a boat? That seems like a huge waste of money.
Posted By: Dognot

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/01/18 01:19 AM

I have a 2017 6.2 Gasser, My company truck, 10-11 MPG Tops. Glad I don't buy the fuel.
Posted By: cocodrie

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/01/18 02:15 AM

Originally Posted By: Dognot
I have a 2017 6.2 Gasser, My company truck, 10-11 MPG Tops. Glad I don't buy the fuel.
otherwise you'd get 17-18
Posted By: BigRM

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/01/18 02:16 AM

I have a 17 F350 6.7 diesel consitantly getting 15.7 and pulling my Triton 21X2 only drops it to 14.6
Posted By: Caymas Cx 21

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/01/18 02:39 AM

I've had the 17&18 and now in a 19 and they all got 16 on the highway, just got back from Amisatd and it got 12.5 running 78 pulling a triton 22trx. Get the deisel, hold the value better.
Posted By: Bee'z

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/01/18 04:00 AM

Dodge 2500s with the cummins are getting 20ish mpg. Something to consider popcorn
Posted By: Uncle Zeek

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/01/18 04:02 AM

Gas truck here. Mileage around 11-13 city, and can get 17-20 on the highway if there's not too much stop and go.

Towing is single digits. But it's a stump-puller!!
Posted By: ToadSnatcher14

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/01/18 04:06 AM

15-16 up hill down hill towing or not. That’s what you get with Ford Diesel minus the routine cab removal to repair a $100 part.
Posted By: TreeBass

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/01/18 08:53 AM

Originally Posted By: ToadSnatcher14
15-16 up hill down hill towing or not. That’s what you get with Ford Diesel minus the routine cab removal to repair a $100 part.


Ok, your going to have to explain that one please
Posted By: Allison1

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/01/18 09:03 AM

I knew the first 6.0's needed to remove the cab to do some common engine repairs but I did not know they still had this.
I remember when the first version had a serious injector problem that filled the engine with fuel that they had to replace injectors. This required the cab to be removed. I saw a picture of a Ford dealership with numerous new trucks lined up for injector replacement and they all had their cabs removed. They had to have the cabs removed to do a simple valve adjustment since the engines were not accessible from the engine bay.

I can replace all the injectors and do a valve adjustment in an hour and half with my Cummins. The Ford and Chevy engine bays are much tighter and harder to work on. For diesel engines.
Posted By: Jaredk

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/01/18 10:43 AM

‘18 6.7 here, almost 5k miles. All hand calculated. I actually get better in the city than highway. 18.6 city/18.1 hwy.15.7 towing TRX18 w/200 opti (not sure of weight), 10.2 towing 35’ camper (9200lb)

I absolutely love this truck....but I also loved my ‘04 6.0 that apparently was the only one I’m history that didn’t grenade as soon as I drove it off the lot
Posted By: TCK73

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/01/18 11:22 AM

My 2017 6.7 averages 17-18 on the highway, and about 16 just running around. It will drop to 11-13 pulling a 12,000 to 17,000 LB trailer. I’m not sure what it gets with a boat, I always end up using my other truck for trips to the lake. This 2017 is the most comfortable best riding 3/4 ton pickup I have had to this date.
Posted By: Bigbob_FTW

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/01/18 12:40 PM

no way I would ever buy a diesel just to pull a boat. that's plain crazy.
Posted By: Hog Jaw

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/01/18 02:28 PM

Got two diesels , 2017 Denali , 1999 Ford 250 , both 4x4 and crew cabs , love 3/4 ton trucks & love diesels .
Posted By: Samsonsworld

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/01/18 02:36 PM

2017 crew 4x4 long bed with 6.2l gasser. Been getting 14 mpg like clockwork, unloaded. Will drop to 13 when the weather cools. Around 9-10 mpg when I tow the boat. 5-6 mpg when I tow the travel trailer.
Posted By: Ghost4BH

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/01/18 03:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Samsonsworld
2017 crew 4x4 long bed with 6.2l gasser. Been getting 14 mpg like clockwork, unloaded. Will drop to 13 when the weather cools. Around 9-10 mpg when I tow the boat. 5-6 mpg when I tow the travel trailer.



A few questions, I'm no truck or engine expert, but doesn't an engine run more efficient in cooler weather? Running more efficient should mean better MPG, right? Also wouldn't cooler weather mean less use of the AC, which also puts an added strain on the MPG? So, why would you get worse MPG in cooler weather? Am I missing something here?
Posted By: WhiskeyTango223

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/01/18 03:37 PM

I have a 2017 F250 Crew Cab Short bed 6.2 gas 3.73 on 35s and I get around 10 pulling the Bassscat on the highway running 75, no boat I get 15 highway and 13 city. If you are going to get a gas truck and have the option I recommend going with the 4.30 gear ratio.
Posted By: Chris B

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/01/18 03:58 PM

Originally Posted By: JayC41
Originally Posted By: Samsonsworld
2017 crew 4x4 long bed with 6.2l gasser. Been getting 14 mpg like clockwork, unloaded. Will drop to 13 when the weather cools. Around 9-10 mpg when I tow the boat. 5-6 mpg when I tow the travel trailer.



A few questions, I'm no truck or engine expert, but doesn't an engine run more efficient in cooler weather? Running more efficient should mean better MPG, right? Also wouldn't cooler weather mean less use of the AC, which also puts an added strain on the MPG? So, why would you get worse MPG in cooler weather? Am I missing something here?

Yes, it should be the other way around.
Posted By: RO519

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/01/18 04:16 PM

Originally Posted By: JayC41
Why would you spend that much money on a truck just to pull a boat? That seems like a huge waste of money.


I need a diesel to carry all the natural testosterone I produce. roflmao
Posted By: Tejas Trofeo

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/01/18 04:22 PM

Originally Posted By: 2 Bee'z
Dodge 2500s with the cummins are getting 20ish mpg. Something to consider popcorn



maybe in 2005 they did....now they get 12-14mpg like the rest of them
Posted By: Samsonsworld

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/01/18 04:23 PM

Originally Posted By: JayC41
Originally Posted By: Samsonsworld
2017 crew 4x4 long bed with 6.2l gasser. Been getting 14 mpg like clockwork, unloaded. Will drop to 13 when the weather cools. Around 9-10 mpg when I tow the boat. 5-6 mpg when I tow the travel trailer.



A few questions, I'm no truck or engine expert, but doesn't an engine run more efficient in cooler weather? Running more efficient should mean better MPG, right? Also wouldn't cooler weather mean less use of the AC, which also puts an added strain on the MPG? So, why would you get worse MPG in cooler weather? Am I missing something here?


More idle time and it takes longer for the transmission oil to warm and thin out (and probably other fluids, differential for example).
Posted By: Tejas Trofeo

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/01/18 04:24 PM

I have a 17' SWB F-250 crew 4x4.


I have 35" toyo all terrains w/ the 3:55 rear end.



Avg. I get around 14-15 mpg. I drive fast, and also drive a lot off road. its hilly where I live as well so that doesent help



I love the truck, and diesels hold their value much better.



Bass boats are not heavy, look into the new diesel F150's here in about 6-8 months when the price on them drops. you can get one now but you will pay the same as a diesel CC. If all I pulled was a boat I would go that route
Posted By: Bee'z

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/01/18 04:51 PM

Originally Posted By: Tejas Trofeo
Originally Posted By: 2 Bee'z
Dodge 2500s with the cummins are getting 20ish mpg. Something to consider popcorn



maybe in 2005 they did....now they get 12-14mpg like the rest of them


You know how I know you are wrong? The 2017 I was in yesterday averaged 19.6 on the way back from south Louisiana.
Posted By: MBarger

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/01/18 04:52 PM

Go getcha one. I have a 2011 F-350 6.7 diesel. It stays hooked up to trailers and hauls pretty decent loads regularly. I get 13.8 MPG. I wouldn't touch a 3/4 or 1 ton gasser. Yes the diesel is more money up front, maintenance can be more, but you will get it all back when you decide to trade it in. There is not much market or demand for gassers bigger than a 1/2 ton.
Posted By: Stump jumper

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/01/18 05:38 PM

Originally Posted By: JayC41
Originally Posted By: Samsonsworld
2017 crew 4x4 long bed with 6.2l gasser. Been getting 14 mpg like clockwork, unloaded. Will drop to 13 when the weather cools. Around 9-10 mpg when I tow the boat. 5-6 mpg when I tow the travel trailer.



A few questions, I'm no truck or engine expert, but doesn't an engine run more efficient in cooler weather? Running more efficient should mean better MPG, right? Also wouldn't cooler weather mean less use of the AC, which also puts an added strain on the MPG? So, why would you get worse MPG in cooler weather? Am I missing something here?
I think you are confusing outboards running better on less dense and dryer air with vehicles in cooler weather. If it was easy to measure MPGs on an outboard we might find the same thing. All of my Toyotas have done worse on mileage in the winter. Some blame it on the winter blend I think it is more about a cooler engine not running as efficient. I have run mine and measured MPGs in cold or cooler weather prior to the switch to winter blend and MPGs have been lower.
Posted By: Tejas Trofeo

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/01/18 07:02 PM

Originally Posted By: 2 Bee'z
Originally Posted By: Tejas Trofeo
Originally Posted By: 2 Bee'z
Dodge 2500s with the cummins are getting 20ish mpg. Something to consider popcorn



maybe in 2005 they did....now they get 12-14mpg like the rest of them


You know how I know you are wrong? The 2017 I was in yesterday averaged 19.6 on the way back from south Louisiana.


Ok, maybe a 2wd with high ratio gears and street tires will on a long straight haul.

A 4x4 (which is what I drive) with appropriate sized tires will not

My partner has had 3 of them in a row.

Before DEF, a 4x4 would do it all day long.

His last dodge diesel truck ( A 2014) with 35’s was a 12-14 mpg at best truck



Posted By: Jaredk

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/01/18 07:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Tejas Trofeo
Originally Posted By: 2 Bee'z
Originally Posted By: Tejas Trofeo
Originally Posted By: 2 Bee'z
Dodge 2500s with the cummins are getting 20ish mpg. Something to consider popcorn



maybe in 2005 they did....now they get 12-14mpg like the rest of them


You know how I know you are wrong? The 2017 I was in yesterday averaged 19.6 on the way back from south Louisiana.


Ok, maybe a 2wd with high ratio gears and street tires will on a long straight haul.

A 4x4 (which is what I drive) with appropriate sized tires will not

My partner has had 3 of them in a row.

Before DEF, a 4x4 would do it all day long.

His last dodge diesel truck ( A 2014) with 35’s was a 12-14 mpg at best truck





Yep, I don’t believe a CC 4x has gotten 20 for years
Posted By: Pintail711

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/02/18 12:34 AM

I dont know why anyone would ever consider buying a gas 3/4 ton. Diesel is 40 cents more a gallon.
Posted By: Jaredk

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/02/18 12:41 AM

Originally Posted By: Pintail711
I dont know why anyone would ever consider buying a gas 3/4 ton. Diesel is 40 cents more a gallon.

If somebody needs payload. 3/4 diesels have terrible payload weights
Posted By: Bee'z

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/02/18 12:59 AM

Originally Posted By: E8C-ENG
Originally Posted By: Tejas Trofeo
Originally Posted By: 2 Bee'z
Originally Posted By: Tejas Trofeo

maybe in 2005 they did....now they get 12-14mpg like the rest of them


You know how I know you are wrong? The 2017 I was in yesterday averaged 19.6 on the way back from south Louisiana.


Ok, maybe a 2wd with high ratio gears and street tires will on a long straight haul.

A 4x4 (which is what I drive) with appropriate sized tires will not

My partner has had 3 of them in a row.

Before DEF, a 4x4 would do it all day long.

His last dodge diesel truck ( A 2014) with 35’s was a 12-14 mpg at best truck





Yep, I don’t believe a CC 4x has gotten 20 for years


CC and 4x4. New tires pulled it down to a computer calculated 18.7 for the trip. Might not be 20 but the stock tires were close to 20. Damn sure not 12-14 like you two are claiming popcorn
Posted By: ToadSnatcher14

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/02/18 12:03 PM

Hello You Chuckleheads!
Posted By: Samsonsworld

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/02/18 12:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Pintail711
I dont know why anyone would ever consider buying a gas 3/4 ton. Diesel is 40 cents more a gallon.


I don't why anybody would worry about what other people do.
Posted By: RO519

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/02/18 02:51 PM

Originally Posted By: Samsonsworld
Originally Posted By: Pintail711
I dont know why anyone would ever consider buying a gas 3/4 ton. Diesel is 40 cents more a gallon.


I don't why anybody would worry about what other people do.


Welcome to the OT...
Posted By: Kerry Dugan

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/02/18 03:08 PM

Originally Posted By: Tejas Trofeo
Originally Posted By: 2 Bee'z
Dodge 2500s with the cummins are getting 20ish mpg. Something to consider popcorn



maybe in 2005 they did....now they get 12-14mpg like the rest of them


Have to chime in here grin
I run a 2015 2500 4x4 cummins. I average 20.5 on highway at 75mph, average 18.5 pulling my boat
factory, no mods at all, that's checking it manually, not going off of instrument panel
Posted By: Pintail711

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/02/18 04:16 PM

Originally Posted By: Samsonsworld
Originally Posted By: Pintail711
I dont know why anyone would ever consider buying a gas 3/4 ton. Diesel is 40 cents more a gallon.


I don't why anybody would worry about what other people do.


He asked for input. If he wants to get 8 mpg then by all means, more power to him.
Posted By: Samsonsworld

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/02/18 04:33 PM

Funny thing is that's exactly what I got last time I towed a boat with a diesel.
Posted By: Caymas Cx 21

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/02/18 05:21 PM

I'd rather have less mileage from a Ford then decent mileage in a dodge and waits for the dash and everything else fall apart. Dodge- great motor, rest is junk.
Posted By: Pintail711

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/02/18 06:25 PM

Originally Posted By: Samsonsworld
Funny thing is that's exactly what I got last time I towed a boat with a diesel.


Where you pulling a 40’ yellow fin?
Posted By: Uncle Zeek

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/02/18 06:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Pintail711
I dont know why anyone would ever consider buying a gas 3/4 ton. Diesel is 40 cents more a gallon.


Because some of us use a 3/4 ton for towing or hauling heavy loads, but don't necessarily put enough miles on our trucks to justify the extra upfront cost of a diesel, nor the higher cost of maintenance.

Yes, diesels have higher long-term resale/trade value, and get better mileage. But that only helps if you get your money's worth in the use of the truck.
Posted By: Samsonsworld

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/02/18 06:38 PM

Originally Posted By: Pintail711
Originally Posted By: Samsonsworld
Funny thing is that's exactly what I got last time I towed a boat with a diesel.


Where you pulling a 40’ yellow fin?


Pontoon at 75mph.
Posted By: ToadSnatcher14

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/03/18 12:37 AM

I tow a ghost trailer at 95 with tow mirrors up and get 17 mpg
Posted By: TCK73

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/03/18 01:13 AM

Originally Posted By: ToadSnatcher14
I tow a ghost trailer at 95 with tow mirrors up and get 17 mpg
roflmao
Posted By: Bee'z

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/03/18 01:14 AM

Originally Posted By: 21xs Elite
I'd rather have less mileage from a Ford then decent mileage in a dodge and waits for the dash and everything else fall apart. Dodge- great motor, rest is junk.


Obviously you have not been in one lately.
Posted By: Samsonsworld

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/03/18 08:04 PM

Originally Posted By: ToadSnatcher14
I tow a ghost trailer at 95 with tow mirrors up and get 17 mpg


No ghost trailers here.



Posted By: Caymas Cx 21

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/03/18 08:21 PM

Originally Posted By: 2 Bee'z
Originally Posted By: 21xs Elite
I'd rather have less mileage from a Ford then decent mileage in a dodge and waits for the dash and everything else fall apart. Dodge- great motor, rest is junk.


Obviously you have not been in one lately.

One of them a couple years ago was enough for me, never again.
Posted By: Flooringit

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/04/18 04:05 AM

Funny these threads always get to dodge vs Ford. Funny thing is the dodge die hards just can’t let go most of the time. Ford did emissions first cost them a bunch of money. Every other brand waited to last minute. Look at it now. Ford has figured it out. And now everyone is trying to figure it out. They will never get good mpg with urea or emissions on them. They will get another mile or 2 soon now that the 8 and 10 speed trannys are coming. I know 3 guys with dodge right now as I type they are making payments and all 3 are sitting In dodge getting tranny work. All of them have wanted to switch. None will cause fords cost more. But everyone in dodge oh but you have to take the cab off to work on it. So! It takes them 45 minutes to get it off and 45 back on. Can design is sweet. Why you think ford don’t need a mega cab. All fords have room. I use to work at dodge plant on mound and 8 mile in Detroit. Parked my ford in parking lot everyday. I had 2 dodges never got one again even with my discount being more.
Posted By: Bee'z

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/04/18 04:17 AM

Originally Posted By: Flooringit
Funny these threads always get to dodge vs Ford. Funny thing is the dodge die hards just can’t let go most of the time. Ford did emissions first cost them a bunch of money. Every other brand waited to last minute. Look at it now. Ford has figured it out. And now everyone is trying to figure it out. They will never get good mpg with urea or emissions on them. They will get another mile or 2 soon now that the 8 and 10 speed trannys are coming. I know 3 guys with dodge right now as I type they are making payments and all 3 are sitting In dodge getting tranny work. All of them have wanted to switch. None will cause fords cost more. But everyone in dodge oh but you have to take the cab off to work on it. So! It takes them 45 minutes to get it off and 45 back on. Can design is sweet. Why you think ford don’t need a mega cab. All fords have room. I use to work at dodge plant on mound and 8 mile in Detroit. Parked my ford in parking lot everyday. I had 2 dodges never got one again even with my discount being more.


Cool story bro lol
Posted By: Tejas Trofeo

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/04/18 02:59 PM

Dodge makes a good diesel truck. Their weak link is the tranny. Has always been an issue with them.

I do like the ram trucks, they are not your daddy’s dodge.....but neither again the new fords are not your daddy’s fords either
Posted By: Huckleberry

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/04/18 04:01 PM

Originally Posted By: Uncle Zeek
Originally Posted By: Pintail711
I dont know why anyone would ever consider buying a gas 3/4 ton. Diesel is 40 cents more a gallon.


Because some of us use a 3/4 ton for towing or hauling heavy loads, but don't necessarily put enough miles on our trucks to justify the extra upfront cost of a diesel, nor the higher cost of maintenance.

Yes, diesels have higher long-term resale/trade value, and get better mileage. But that only helps if you get your money's worth in the use of the truck.


F150 = Boys truck / F250 = Mans truck
Posted By: Stump jumper

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/04/18 05:28 PM

Originally Posted By: Huckleberry
Originally Posted By: Uncle Zeek
Originally Posted By: Pintail711
I dont know why anyone would ever consider buying a gas 3/4 ton. Diesel is 40 cents more a gallon.


Because some of us use a 3/4 ton for towing or hauling heavy loads, but don't necessarily put enough miles on our trucks to justify the extra upfront cost of a diesel, nor the higher cost of maintenance.

Yes, diesels have higher long-term resale/trade value, and get better mileage. But that only helps if you get your money's worth in the use of the truck.


F150 = Boys truck / F250 = Mans truck
might be but why pay more for something you don't need. Take one of those heavy diesels out in the deep mud and just asking for trouble. Tundra with 5.7 gasser has all the pulling power that I need.
Posted By: BassFever

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/04/18 05:53 PM

Originally Posted By: Tejas Trofeo
Dodge makes a good diesel truck. Their weak link is the tranny. Has always been an issue with them.

I do like the ram trucks, they are not your daddy’s dodge.....but neither again the new fords are not your daddy’s fords either


I had a 99 and 01 Dodge 1/2 ton. Had transmission troubles with both. I'm digging the new 19 Ram 1/2 tons but still worried about their transmission.
Posted By: BassFever

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/04/18 05:54 PM

Originally Posted By: Stump jumper
Originally Posted By: Huckleberry
Originally Posted By: Uncle Zeek
Originally Posted By: Pintail711
I dont know why anyone would ever consider buying a gas 3/4 ton. Diesel is 40 cents more a gallon.


Because some of us use a 3/4 ton for towing or hauling heavy loads, but don't necessarily put enough miles on our trucks to justify the extra upfront cost of a diesel, nor the higher cost of maintenance.

Yes, diesels have higher long-term resale/trade value, and get better mileage. But that only helps if you get your money's worth in the use of the truck.


F150 = Boys truck / F250 = Mans truck
might be but why pay more for something you don't need. Take one of those heavy diesels out in the deep mud and just asking for trouble. Tundra with 5.7 gasser has all the pulling power that I need.


It can tow the space shuttle. What more do you need? LOL
Posted By: Tejas Trofeo

Re: Calling 2017-19 Ford F250 Owners - 10/04/18 10:06 PM

Originally Posted By: Stump jumper
Originally Posted By: Huckleberry
Originally Posted By: Uncle Zeek
Originally Posted By: Pintail711
I dont know why anyone would ever consider buying a gas 3/4 ton. Diesel is 40 cents more a gallon.


Because some of us use a 3/4 ton for towing or hauling heavy loads, but don't necessarily put enough miles on our trucks to justify the extra upfront cost of a diesel, nor the higher cost of maintenance.

Yes, diesels have higher long-term resale/trade value, and get better mileage. But that only helps if you get your money's worth in the use of the truck.


F150 = Boys truck / F250 = Mans truck
might be but why pay more for something you don't need. Take one of those heavy diesels out in the deep mud and just asking for trouble. Tundra with 5.7 gasser has all the pulling power that I need.


Toyota makes a great truck and yes a diesel sucks in Any kind of mud


But a Tundra isn’t gonna pull a 28” travel trailer down the highway at 80 with a ATV in the bed and 3 of your buddies riding with you
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