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knot for pitching with floro

Posted By: RickS

knot for pitching with floro - 03/01/15 10:25 PM

What knot do you like for Texas rigged plastics when using floro? I broke off on a hookset last summer. Suspect it was my polomar knot.
Posted By: JIM SR.

Re: knot for pitching with floro - 03/01/15 10:38 PM

http://www.netknots.com/fishing_knots/fish-n-fool-knot/
Posted By: tommyc

Re: knot for pitching with floro - 03/01/15 10:40 PM

In my experience, Fluoro does not have as much initial stretch as mono thus creating one of the issues with break-offs on the hookset. Fluoro will stretch just fine but not as much as mono on the initial hookset. I go down one power of rod with fluoro than what I would use with mono.
I use the San Diego Jam knot with 15 lb. or less and the Palomar with 17 lb. or larger. Just be careful when tightening down the knot with the Palomar. Don't over crank the tag end.
Posted By: tommyc

Re: knot for pitching with floro - 03/01/15 10:43 PM



Probably a good knot that Jim shows as well. Not a lot of friction there when tightening the knot as is similar to the San Diego Jam Knot.
Posted By: Big Swimbait

Re: knot for pitching with floro - 03/01/15 10:44 PM

SDJ for me.
Posted By: RChipman11

Re: knot for pitching with floro - 03/01/15 11:50 PM

I use the Fish-N-Fool knot for fluro and don't have any complaints
Posted By: Minner Bucket

Re: knot for pitching with floro - 03/01/15 11:52 PM

When pitching or flipping, I use a snell knot.
Posted By: texasfisherman1

Re: knot for pitching with floro - 03/02/15 12:09 AM

The uni slip is the best knot in my opinion, with all types of lines. It is extremely easy to tie once you you get the hang of it and I can tie it very quickly. The San Diego Jam is good to, but the Uni is almost 100% strength and very consistent.
Posted By: E-Tec Joe

Re: knot for pitching with floro - 03/02/15 12:44 AM

Originally Posted By: dmr183
When pitching or flipping, I use a snell knot.
+1
Posted By: Lone Star Lunker Hunter

Re: knot for pitching with floro - 03/02/15 01:05 AM

I've been using the San Diego jam knot for past 3 years and haven't looked back!!!
Posted By: CCTX

Re: knot for pitching with floro - 03/02/15 01:11 AM

I use a doubled uni for all line to hook applications (it's just a uni but doubling the line)

If I could tie a snell knot quickly, this is what I would use for flipping, but haven't had any problems with the doubled uni.
Posted By: NickHasty

Re: knot for pitching with floro - 03/02/15 01:12 AM

Originally Posted By: dmr183
When pitching or flipping, I use a snell knot.


+2!

You're best off tying direct to the hook shank in this scenario.

1. to prevent damage to knot and streamlining t rig, or punch rig
2. to allow the hook to pivot, which in turn improves hook up ratio.
Posted By: Black Dallas

Re: knot for pitching with floro - 03/02/15 01:18 AM

Originally Posted By: Lone Star Lunker Hunter
I've been using the San Diego jam knot for past 3 years and haven't looked back!!!
Posted By: Bullet210

Re: knot for pitching with floro - 03/02/15 01:32 AM

Eugene Bend here for floro. Easy to tie and when you here the "pop " you know it's tied right
Posted By: jfdawson

Re: knot for pitching with floro - 03/02/15 02:27 AM

Shaw Grigsby Flouro knot video

http://youtu.be/3I905PXIYww
Posted By: hunterfishes

Re: knot for pitching with floro - 03/02/15 02:40 AM

I utilize the uni knot for 15lb and larger flouro for smaller line I use the homer circle knot or the blood knot.

I have also had problems with failures when using the Palomar knot I do s till use it with my mono line but don't trust it for Flouro.
Posted By: ezbassin

Re: knot for pitching with floro - 03/02/15 03:17 AM

Fishin fool
Pitzen or same knot just double the line.
San Diego Jam
Posted By: Frank the Tank

Re: knot for pitching with floro - 03/02/15 03:23 AM

I fish Palomar and have never had a break-off. They will all break at some point. There is no perfect knot.
Posted By: Happykamper

Re: knot for pitching with floro - 03/02/15 01:50 PM

Palomar here, if tied correctly it will not break.
Posted By: vdavid

Re: knot for pitching with floro - 03/02/15 03:20 PM

Originally Posted By: jfdawson
Shaw Grigsby Flouro knot video

http://youtu.be/3I905PXIYww



^this. Takes a while to learn though
Posted By: ezbassin

Re: knot for pitching with floro - 03/02/15 03:29 PM

Originally Posted By: vdavid
Originally Posted By: jfdawson
Shaw Grigsby Flouro knot video

http://youtu.be/3I905PXIYww



^this. Takes a while to learn though


That is the Pitzen knot using a double line. It is a very strong knot.
Posted By: ezbassin

Re: knot for pitching with floro - 03/02/15 03:32 PM

Originally Posted By: Happykamper
Palomar here, if tied correctly it will not break.


You are absolutely right but many people do not tie it correctly and it fails and they blame it on the knot, so they either need to learn to tie it correctly or choose a different knot.
Posted By: RedRaider3933

Re: knot for pitching with floro - 03/02/15 03:34 PM

Originally Posted By: ezbassin
Originally Posted By: Happykamper
Palomar here, if tied correctly it will not break.


You are absolutely right but many people do not tie it correctly and it fails and they blame it on the knot, so they either need to learn to tie it correctly or choose a different knot.

Exactly.
Posted By: JoeyC

Re: knot for pitching with floro - 03/02/15 03:58 PM

Originally Posted By: ezbassin
Originally Posted By: Happykamper
Palomar here, if tied correctly it will not break.


You are absolutely right but many people do not tie it correctly and it fails and they blame it on the knot, so they either need to learn to tie it correctly or choose a different knot.


I don't have a problem with break offs but how do you tie it incorrectly? Not being a wise guy, just got me thinking maybe I'm doing it wrong.
Posted By: CCTX

Re: knot for pitching with floro - 03/02/15 04:04 PM

Common errors with the palomar.
--the loop twists/crosses as it goes over the hook, causing it to cut into itself.
--the loop gets cinched above the overhand knot instead of over/around it. If the loop is cinched above the overhand knot, it can cut into the main line.
Posted By: ezbassin

Re: knot for pitching with floro - 03/02/15 04:07 PM

To correctly tie a Palomar knot you must make sure the lines are parallel to each other and not twisted, as you tie the overhand knot. Next slip the loop over the hook. Loosely pull the overhand knot away from the hook and it will form a figure 8, now pull the tag end and the main line slowly and the figure 8 will be getting smaller as you do this. Wet the line and tighten it to the eyelet but make sure the loop that went over the hook tightens at the back of the knot, right at the eyelet of the hook. The double line on the eyelet of the hook MUST be side by side and not crossed. If these lines are crossed forming an X your knot will break. Mono. and copolymer lines are more forgiving but fluorocarbon is not.
Posted By: pinesaddict

Re: knot for pitching with floro - 03/02/15 04:43 PM

Berkeley braid knot. Problem solved
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