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Do you know why?

Posted By: SlowDown

Do you know why? - 02/17/15 12:36 AM

Why is a dual braking system (centrifugal and magnetic) better than only a magnetic brake? Have never heard an explanation.
Posted By: 361V

Re: Do you know why? - 02/17/15 12:46 AM

More "fine tuning" capabilities. I have always had good luck with the "dual systems" but have also found that any of the good reels were great even if they only had the centrifugal braking systems. Most of my Revo's have dual and I set the centrifugal for the weight of the lure than rarely touch it again. I then fine tune with the magnetic brake for wind conditions.
Posted By: Douglas J

Re: Do you know why? - 02/17/15 12:49 AM

Some of your better reels now have externally adjustable centrifugal braking systems.

I personally like those the best of any of the braking systems..
Posted By: SlowDown

Re: Do you know why? - 02/17/15 12:51 AM

Interesting. I use the spool tension knob to set for the weight of the lure, don't know how to set the centrifugal brake for weight of lure.
Posted By: SlowDown

Re: Do you know why? - 02/17/15 01:04 AM

Doug, I think I would like that best also. When you have three things to set (centrifugal, magnetic, and spool tension knob), it is more complicated than having only two things set. I've used a lot of Shimano reels over the years that had only the six-pin centrifugal brake and the tension knob. Would always set the tension knob for the weight of the lure, then set the centrifugal as needed for wind, etc. I have a low-end Lew's that only has a magnetic brake and it is easy to set also ... and I get a good, long cast out of it. Don't have any dual breaking systems right now, but have had in the past and sometimes had a little trouble getting them dialed in, especially when wind was coming up while on the water. Which reel, in particular, do you know of that has a centrifugal brake that is adjustable on the outside if I may ask?
Posted By: Douglas J

Re: Do you know why? - 02/17/15 01:10 AM

Originally Posted By: fish 'till I drop
Doug, I think I would like that best also. When you have three things to set (centrifugal, magnetic, and spool tension knob), it is more complicated than having only two things set. I've used a lot of Shimano reels over the years that had only the six-pin centrifugal brake and the tension knob. Would always set the tension knob for the weight of the lure, then set the centrifugal as needed for wind, etc. I have a low-end Lew's that only has a magnetic brake and it is easy to set also ... and I get a good, long cast out of it. Don't have any dual breaking systems right now, but have had in the past and sometimes had a little trouble getting them dialed in, especially when wind was coming up while on the water. Which reel, in particular, do you know of that has a centrifugal brake that is adjustable on the outside if I may ask?


The reels I have with it are Revo MGX reels and Lew's BB1 Pros and the Lew's Team Lite Speed Spool reels.
Posted By: SlowDown

Re: Do you know why? - 02/17/15 02:01 AM

Thanks Doug, will read up on those reels.
Posted By: JoshMan734

Re: Do you know why? - 02/17/15 02:15 AM

The names of breaks have always confused me! Which one is it where u take the left plate(RH reels) off and push up or down the little plastic piece? I personally like those bc I will push one pin up or two on complete opposite sides and tune with the knob under the handle!
Posted By: SlowDown

Re: Do you know why? - 02/17/15 02:48 AM

Josh, the six pins under the left side plate is the centrifugal brake. The spinning of the spool pushes the sliding blocks on the pins outward against a drum, causing friction, thus creating a centrifugal force. The tension knob under the star drag simply applies pressure on the spool, slowing it down. From what I understand, the centrifugal brake and/or magnetic brake under the cover is to control the spool speed during the cast. That is, if you are getting fluff in the line on the spool during the cast, you need to pull out more breaks to slow it down. The tension knob is to control the speed of the spool at the end of the cast, i.e. to keep it from over-running at the end of the cast. If it is over-running at the end of the cast, tighten, tighten, tighten until it no longer over-runs. On a calm day, if the breaks and tension knob are set properly, you can make a long, smooth cast without ever using your thumb, but conditions are rarely perfect and a well trained thumb is needed to fine tune and avoid backlashes, sometimes called professional over-runs (grin). Hope this helps.
Posted By: SteezMacQueen

Re: Do you know why? - 02/17/15 02:52 AM

On my Team Lews Pros I don't engage any of the centrifugal clips. I only dial up about 6-7 on the mags. Works good for me. I also set spool tension VERY loose. Only enough spool tension to prevent side to side motion of the spool. But, I'm a "thumber"'from the old days of Abu 5000's. Lol.
Posted By: Rickmb

Re: Do you know why? - 02/17/15 03:00 AM

Centrifugal brakes work in the beginning of the cast to keep the spool from over spinning. The magnetic brake is most effective at the end of the cast.
I have reels that have one or the other and a couple that have both. I can't say one is better than the other other than the centrifugal brake system is lighter than the magnetic.
For close in work I still like to use my thumb for control.
Posted By: SlowDown

Re: Do you know why? - 02/17/15 03:01 AM

Originally Posted By: Doug R.
Originally Posted By: fish 'till I drop
Doug, I think I would like that best also. When you have three things to set (centrifugal, magnetic, and spool tension knob), it is more complicated than having only two things set. I've used a lot of Shimano reels over the years that had only the six-pin centrifugal brake and the tension knob. Would always set the tension knob for the weight of the lure, then set the centrifugal as needed for wind, etc. I have a low-end Lew's that only has a magnetic brake and it is easy to set also ... and I get a good, long cast out of it. Don't have any dual breaking systems right now, but have had in the past and sometimes had a little trouble getting them dialed in, especially when wind was coming up while on the water. Which reel, in particular, do you know of that has a centrifugal brake that is adjustable on the outside if I may ask?


The reels I have with it are Revo MGX reels and Lew's BB1 Pros and the Lew's Team Lite Speed Spool reels.


Dang it Doug, your comments about reels with centrifugal breaks only, that can be adjusted without removing the side plate, is going to cost me some money the next time I buy a baitcaster. Ignorance is/was bliss. LOL All seriousness, thanks.
Posted By: SlowDown

Re: Do you know why? - 02/17/15 03:10 AM

Originally Posted By: SteezMacQueen
On my Team Lews Pros I don't engage any of the centrifugal clips. I only dial up about 6-7 on the mags. Works good for me. I also set spool tension VERY loose. Only enough spool tension to prevent side to side motion of the spool. But, I'm a "thumber"'from the old days of Abu 5000's. Lol.


Steez, in that case, I don't know why you don't just buy one of the Lew's reels that only has a magnetic brake. I have the one that sells for $99.99 and, so far, it works fine. Only about a year old and not used heavily, so I don't know about the quality, i.e. how durable and long it will last.

P.S. In the mid to late 60s, I loved my red Abu Garcia 5000. Still have one of them.
Posted By: SteezMacQueen

Re: Do you know why? - 02/17/15 03:36 AM

I got a really good deal on the LTPs. Not $99 good, but it was good enough that I said I'll take a few at that price. Haha
Posted By: SlowDown

Re: Do you know why? - 02/17/15 03:40 AM

I hear you Steez. I'm waiting for a good sale on Lew's reels myself. Not in a hurry, I'm primarily using spinning gear right now.
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