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I-Pilot Fix

Posted By: BlueNitro

I-Pilot Fix - 10/19/12 03:19 PM

I posted this in the Striper Section but thought some of you might have the same issues if you have the I-Pilot.

I love my I-Pilot but I have always hated how the Minn-Kota Terrova/Power Drives mounted to the boat and stuck out on my bass boat. Every time I passed by my boat in my garage, I would bump into the skeg or prop. Worse yet, when I would load/unload from my trailer the unit would hit the spare tire and I was worried it would eventually break the skeg off or mess up the drive unit. Plus coming into the dock it was just hanging out there ready to get damaged. I looked everywhere for a product but was not finding anything that would resolve these issues. So I worked with Philip from RSR Lures and we came up with a great solution to the overhang problems. He has extensive experience designing and machining products through his other business so I knew we would.

First off, Philip/RSR had previously made a plate for me to mount the trolling motor to the boat because I wanted to use the existing holes as well as distribute the torque over a larger area of the bow. I had heard/read stories of problems because of the small mounting area. Using this plate, we attached a rail system that now allows me to retract the entire unit back 11 ½” so when I launch/load the boat it is out of harm’s way. When I am ready to fish, I pull a pin to slide the unit back into place for fishing. And it is rock solid and I can see this unit holding up for many years of service. An additional plus is now I can detach the entire unit for secure storage when I need to.

I believe Philip is also working on a design for another friend who has a center console and detachable mount that has been having the same issues with the overhang. If you are having similar issues or want a better way to mount these units, I would strongly recommend that you get in touch with him. He is a great person to do business with at a reasonable price. His number is 214-448-9019 or you can click on the RSR Lures link in my signature (you can get some great lures too).

Here is a picture of the plate that is permanently mounted to the boat and a quick video of the entire unit (click on 2nd pic for vid).



Posted By: Whiskey Bob

Re: I-Pilot Fix - 10/19/12 10:18 PM

Nice Fix ! that should work Great !

That's going to work great !
My riptide ipilot on the Sea Fox hits the front roller as its sliding off the trailer .. The steeper the ramp the worse the problem , to be able to easily slide it back and keep it from bangin on the front trailer roller will be awesome . I never thought about the guys that keep a boat slip , that would be a great solution as well .. And to be able to quickly remove it from the boat for storage or repairs as needed is perfect !
Good job Philip ! Looks great !
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: I-Pilot Fix - 10/19/12 11:07 PM

Needs to be something made for MinnKota for this very reason, maybe he should contact them and sell this item to them.
Posted By: BigLeslie

Re: I-Pilot Fix - 10/19/12 11:30 PM

Looks like a lot of work went into the design and seems like a good solution that might work well for some. Not to nit pick but the fit and finish could use a little work I just sold my boat and my Terrova hopefully before too long I'll be shopping for a newer one and I imagine I'll go with the option I used before. I had Minn Kota's quick release mount so if necessary I could just move the entire Terrova off the bow for easier launching or storage. Your solution does look easier than the quick release since it uses a rail system so it might be quicker but for me the rails look a little rough. Hopefully Minn Kota can come up with a similar system that would look better. Again, I hope I don't sound to crtitical, I'm all for anything that improves the Terrova there will probably come a day when all TM's will have similar functions to the Terrova but until the mount system and toughness is improved that won't happen, this definitely gets things moving in the right direction. thumb
Posted By: RSR Lures

Re: I-Pilot Fix - 10/20/12 01:07 AM

This is the very first proto-type. Fit, finish, and polish to follow. We haven't made the final decision on the exact materials for the slide mechanism. We will probably use a combination of aluminum and either Delron or nylon.

Thanks for your input.
Posted By: BigLeslie

Re: I-Pilot Fix - 10/20/12 01:16 AM

Got it, I'll be very interested to see the final design. I'm probably at least a year from my next boat and would love to consider this option down the road for my Terrova. Thanks!
Posted By: RSR Lures

Re: I-Pilot Fix - 10/20/12 01:41 AM

We'll keep you posted as we progress. Thanks again.
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: I-Pilot Fix - 10/20/12 02:17 AM

Originally Posted By: RSR Lures
We'll keep you posted as we progress. Thanks again.


Do that! The biggest complaint about my Terrova is the weakness of the mount system and overhang, looking forward to seeing a fix to this problem.
Posted By: Whiskey Bob

Re: I-Pilot Fix - 10/20/12 04:44 AM

so the Beauty in this Design is I wont have to buy a Quick Release from Minn Kota.. your Slide will be the Quick release !

Very Kewl"
Posted By: CENTEX Toad Hunter

Re: I-Pilot Fix - 10/20/12 09:24 AM

Beat idea! When a friend bought the Terrarova when it first came out, he got it with the 60" start. How we mounted to his Aluminum hull Triton, we ran into this problem, but at the other end. The head unit sticks out the side of the bout about 18inches making it a concern while driving and backing up. This was three years ago and he hasn't as of yet hit anything with it, but he is also more observant than the average boater. It really looks ackward sticking out the side like that but really was no other way.

I like you idea of a rail system so that he might be able to secure it in a more forward position. As for sharing your idea with Minnkota, I wouldn't. You just might have an aftermarket plan that could produce you some coin.

So as you are still refining the design, please think about the ability to shift in either direction. I'm sure he would be interested as I know that shaft sticking out the side is just an accident waiting to happen.
Posted By: RSR Lures

Re: I-Pilot Fix - 10/20/12 01:34 PM

If we give the rail system a wider footprint, you could also change the angle the unit sits on the boat.

There are so many variables....
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: I-Pilot Fix - 10/21/12 03:15 AM

When you get this thing out of the planning stage and into the selling stage, post it in the "general equipment" section. Too much stuff is posted on the bass fishing page and it gets lost in the many pages. In other words, I'll never find it again...
Posted By: Whiskey Bob

Re: I-Pilot Fix - 10/23/12 11:34 PM

Good Idea !
Posted By: fwfisher

Re: I-Pilot Fix - 10/23/12 11:46 PM

Looks awesome. If I could offer something constructive, make sure that pin is wired to the mount or make sure it's sturdy. The front of a boat takes some pretty wicked jarring in waves and it would end a persons day without that pin. I like it!
Posted By: BlueNitro

Re: I-Pilot Fix - 10/24/12 01:19 PM

BigLeslie - I had to grind the bolt heads down because even the countersink heads that I bought from Lowes stuck up over the plate affecting the slide rails. I also cleaned up the slide stop. Once I got it all put together the way I wanted it, I spent a little time to make the finish a lot better than the picture shows. It does look like an off the shelf product now. And knowing Philip as I do, the finished product will look great. He is all about the quality of the products he produces. Take a look at his lures compared to others.

grout-scout - I once saw a picture in the white section where a Terrova had completely ripped off the front of a boat and ended up in the lake. Sure tore up the fiberglass (I'll try to find the picture). I never liked the small mounting footprint.

CoAngler - As far as keeping the head inside of the boat, I shifted the plate over close to an inch to keep the head within the boat. If you look at the plate picture, you can see the odd angle and bolt heads that are not in-line because I wanted to use the original holes from the original tm mount. Now even when fully retracted, the head remains within the boat. I'm sure Philip can adapt to resolve any issues on each individual boat.

Ba$$fan - I have the pin tethered to the motor, there is a stop on the front of the plate to keep the TM from sliding too far forward and possibly taking a swim and I have a spare pin in the dry storage box JIC.

Thank you for all you input because I'm sure Philip can make it a better product based on your feedback. It works 1000x better than anything that I could find out there.

Posted By: Phnx#22

Re: I-Pilot Fix - 10/24/12 02:07 PM

It is a great idea...but I would have never let anyone see until I had that idea sold to Minn Kota.....best of luck to you.
Posted By: OkieBob

Re: I-Pilot Fix - 10/25/12 12:50 PM

I have a new Terrova on order now. I'm getting the 60" shaft and it will go on my 18' Lund. Factory says it will ship first week of Nov so should see it soon.
One question, if you are sitting in the boat looking towards the bow, with the Terrova pushed back for storage, how far would the head end of the Terrova extend to the left? I couldn't tell with your PDV2 as you didn't show the head in the video.
Also, is this product available now, if not when? Any idea what the cost is going to be?
Thanks in advance.
Posted By: Jobie99

Re: I-Pilot Fix - 10/25/12 02:25 PM

Originally Posted By: OkieBob
I have a new Terrova on order now. I'm getting the 60" shaft and it will go on my 18' Lund. Factory says it will ship first week of Nov so should see it soon.
One question, if you are sitting in the boat looking towards the bow, with the Terrova pushed back for storage, how far would the head end of the Terrova extend to the left? I couldn't tell with your PDV2 as you didn't show the head in the video.
Also, is this product available now, if not when? Any idea what the cost is going to be?
Thanks in advance.


I have a custon cover for my ZX225 and it doesnt fit with my terrova on. I ordered the quick release bracket for storage purposes.
Posted By: J3rkbait

Re: I-Pilot Fix - 10/25/12 03:25 PM

Originally Posted By: RSR Lures
If we give the rail system a wider footprint, you could also change the angle the unit sits on the boat.

There are so many variables....


Yes please. I use the Minn Kota's quick release mount at this time and do not really like the way it sits. I look forward to your finished product.
Any way to get on a Mailing list for release dates and or such?
Add me to your Notice list please.
Posted By: RSR Lures

Re: I-Pilot Fix - 10/25/12 10:25 PM

Anyone interested, just send me a PM. I'm finalizing the materials list now.

I would like to personally install a few more of these before I say the design is final. Any guinea pigs ?
Posted By: grout-scout

Re: I-Pilot Fix - 10/26/12 12:33 AM

I live too far away to be a g. pig but give me an idea on cost and I might buy one and then let you know the results, take pics, etc. etc.
Posted By: OldChamp

Re: I-Pilot Fix - 10/27/12 07:48 PM

I'm on the verge of ordering a Terrova iPilot trolling motor to replace my old MG Brute and have been pondering the mounting issues that this plate and rail system seems to address.

But I wonder if any of the Minn Kota quick release brackets such as the MKA-32 slide back to allow the Terrova when stowed to not stick out past the nose of the boat? Just from looking the pictures and descriptions on-line it seems that they might.

Can anyone comment on whether the MK brackets slide back and lock?

Posted By: Whiskey Bob

Re: I-Pilot Fix - 10/28/12 04:39 AM

as for the MKA - 32,, it Looks as though they just lock the thing in place same as the other quick release mount , no slide ability to move it back and lock it down & out of the way, just removal it appears...
Posted By: RSR Lures

Re: I-Pilot Fix - 10/29/12 03:05 PM

If you are interested or need more information about these mounts, please e-mail or call me directly.

production@ltl-int.com

866-650-6811 office
214-448-9019 cell

production@ltl-int.com
Posted By: Whiskey Bob

Re: I-Pilot Fix - 03/26/13 03:53 AM

Philip , I know somebody just ordered an new ipilot ... Wants a bracket from ya !

Mine is great ! Awesome slider on it !
Posted By: Whiskey Bob

Re: I-Pilot Fix - 04/04/13 11:18 PM

Heres Base plate Pic's !



Posted By: Whiskey Bob

Re: I-Pilot Fix - 04/14/13 05:01 AM

They are here !

6 or 7 remaining out of the initial batch of 20.
This assembly allows you to slide the trolling motor back over the deck when docking or trailering.

214-448-9019 production@ltl-int.com


Posted By: Whiskey Bob

Re: I-Pilot Fix - 04/16/13 11:40 PM

Great design . No more broken TM parts from banging the roller on the trailer !
Posted By: SLO

Re: I-Pilot Fix - 04/17/13 01:19 AM

Are they for sale ? What's the price ?
Posted By: Whiskey Bob

Re: I-Pilot Fix - 04/19/13 12:30 AM

Call Philip or email him ..
214-448-9019 production@ltl-int.com
Posted By: Whiskey Bob

Re: I-Pilot Fix - 05/05/13 03:19 AM




http://www.slidemaxx.com/





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Posted By: BrandoA

Re: I-Pilot Fix - 06/18/13 02:10 PM

Just ordered one of these. Man what a game changer this is going to make!!!
Posted By: Toxarch

Re: I-Pilot Fix - 06/19/13 04:57 PM

How about making one for the MotorGuide Wireless?
Posted By: Whiskey Bob

Re: I-Pilot Fix - 07/11/13 05:21 AM



New install on the 24ft Sea Fox !
Posted By: big10

Re: I-Pilot Fix - 01/25/18 12:15 PM

Going to bring an old one back to the top. Are these still available? Just picked up a riptide and I hate the way it hangs off the front of the boat.
Posted By: skeeterK

Re: I-Pilot Fix - 01/25/18 02:32 PM

Something like this:

http://www.liftsavertmmount.com/
Posted By: GODSDOZER

Re: I-Pilot Fix - 01/25/18 02:42 PM

R&R design Terrell texas .
Posted By: big10

Re: I-Pilot Fix - 01/26/18 06:13 PM

Thanks guys. Both of these looked like good products. I went ahead and ordered a liftsaver from David at shut up and fish. He was able to ship out today and should have it next week.
Posted By: Bobby Milam

Re: I-Pilot Fix - 01/26/18 08:35 PM

I have one of these slidemaxx mounts. I didn't know what brand it was until I just read this post. I bought it from another member a while back for my Terrova. It worked great and was made pretty heavy duty.
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