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prefered electronics

Posted By: Les Ems

prefered electronics - 08/13/20 12:44 PM

If you had a choice which one would you choose and why? I was told that the clarity was not as good on the Garmins, is this true?
What does 1 do that the other does not?
Why do you think one is better than the other?
93sv and a102sv Garmin w/panoptics and a Ultrex 24v
or
2 Helix 10's, 1side imaging, 1 down imaging, Mega360 and a Ultrex 24v
Thanks
Posted By: SteezMacQueen

Re: prefered electronics - 08/13/20 12:57 PM

Either choice would be better with a Ghost instead of the Ultrex. Ha.
Posted By: Les Ems

Re: prefered electronics - 08/13/20 01:00 PM

Why do you think the Ghost is better?
Originally Posted by SteezMacQueen
Either choice would be better with a Ghost instead of the Ultrex. Ha.
Posted By: Tyler822

Re: prefered electronics - 08/13/20 01:06 PM

What type of a fisherman are you? Mostly shallow? Offshore? Both? What lakes do you spend most of your time on?
Posted By: Les Ems

Re: prefered electronics - 08/13/20 01:52 PM

Both. and Structures
Originally Posted by Tyler822
What type of a fisherman are you? Mostly shallow? Offshore? Both? What lakes do you spend most of your time on?
Posted By: coachallentca

Re: prefered electronics - 08/13/20 02:02 PM

I had a Garmin echomap 93sv and now I have humminbird helix 9G2N mega si.. With garmin it is great at 2D, good at Di but SI was lacking. With bird I love the Mega Si and Di and can see things that I did not see on garmin. I have old panoptix and it was good but livescope is great ( friend had it). I just could not justifiy buying a $1500 trabsducer with 5 kids. If you have money to spend go garmin and livescope if you are on a budget go with Helix 9 or 10 mega...I have no clue about 360..
Posted By: Frank the Tank

Re: prefered electronics - 08/13/20 02:19 PM

I’ve never run Garmin but have heard from multiple and seen video evidence their DI is not true DI. It’s sucks. Other than that I’m really not sure. Look at both and decide for yourself.
Posted By: Les Ems

Re: prefered electronics - 08/13/20 02:33 PM

Salesmen are salesman they suck. Real life experience with the units are real time experiences, are priceless.
Originally Posted by Frank the Tank
I’ve never run Garmin but have heard from multiple and seen video evidence their DI is not true DI. It’s sucks. Other than that I’m really not sure. Look at both and decide for yourself.
Posted By: Fishinfellow

Re: prefered electronics - 08/13/20 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by Les Ems
Salesmen are salesman they suck. Real life experience with the units are real time experiences, are priceless.
Originally Posted by Frank the Tank
I’ve never run Garmin but have heard from multiple and seen video evidence their DI is not true DI. It’s sucks. Other than that I’m really not sure. Look at both and decide for yourself.



I wouldn't say "priceless," I'd say a couple grand per unit.... roflmao
Posted By: Frank the Tank

Re: prefered electronics - 08/13/20 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by Les Ems
Salesmen are salesman they suck. Real life experience with the units are real time experiences, are priceless.
Originally Posted by Frank the Tank
I’ve never run Garmin but have heard from multiple and seen video evidence their DI is not true DI. It’s sucks. Other than that I’m really not sure. Look at both and decide for yourself.




reading comprehension Is priceless too
Posted By: Jeff From Iowa

Re: prefered electronics - 08/13/20 03:43 PM

Id for sure get the helix set up. 360 mega is amazing, it lets you see everything around you so you know where to fish and where to cast.

Livescope is also amazing but a 93 unit is small and most people who buy that unit end up upgrading rather quickly. If I had to choose 360 or live I would keep 360.



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Posted By: BMCD

Re: prefered electronics - 08/13/20 05:21 PM

The HB 360 and Garmin Livescope are definitely considerations for each. But really there is not alot of difference other then those 2 features.

I went with Lowrance.
Posted By: SteezMacQueen

Re: prefered electronics - 08/13/20 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by Les Ems
Why do you think the Ghost is better?
Originally Posted by SteezMacQueen
Either choice would be better with a Ghost instead of the Ultrex. Ha.


Because I have an Ultrex and a friend has the same boat with a Ghost. The other night, I spot locked next to him and my Ultrex was dancing around endlessly working to keep my boat still. His was almost dead silent and motionless. The Ghost just performed BETTER in the exact same conditions. My opinion is simply based on my observations. The looks and features of the Ghost is oblective, but the performance was easy to see and NOT hear. Haha.
Posted By: Les Ems

Re: prefered electronics - 08/14/20 01:09 AM

Will look in that Ghost then also.
Originally Posted by SteezMacQueen
Originally Posted by Les Ems
Why do you think the Ghost is better?
Originally Posted by SteezMacQueen
Either choice would be better with a Ghost instead of the Ultrex. Ha.


Because I have an Ultrex and a friend has the same boat with a Ghost. The other night, I spot locked next to him and my Ultrex was dancing around endlessly working to keep my boat still. His was almost dead silent and motionless. The Ghost just performed BETTER in the exact same conditions. My opinion is simply based on my observations. The looks and features of the Ghost is oblective, but the performance was easy to see and NOT hear. Haha.

Posted By: Todd B.

Re: prefered electronics - 08/14/20 01:42 AM

The Ghost is awesome. Very quiet but if you are buying HB graphs then you need Ultrex. If you are buying Garmin then get their TM. Master using them together and your fishing will benefit!
Posted By: Minner Bucket

Re: prefered electronics - 08/14/20 01:44 AM

Helix/Solix for SI and DI, Lowrance for 2d, Garmin for livescope. My next set up will most likely be Helix front and back and either 360 or live scope in addition on bow. I like the ease of use on my Lowrance touch screen but the images just don’t hold a candle to Humminbird Mega imaging.
Posted By: 44 Diesel

Re: prefered electronics - 08/14/20 01:56 AM

Humminbird dual spectrum 2d is just as good as any of the others, maybe even better
Posted By: hopalong

Re: prefered electronics - 08/14/20 10:22 AM

went from 898/899 birds to a full garmin setup, 3/9" with livescope and the force trolling motor.

as for si/di, easily as good as bird or lowrance even on my lil bitty ole 9" screens. livescope is an awesome upgrade and the force tm is excellent and super quiet since it is brushless. one benefit of the force is if you want to run 24v just hook up 2 batteries and go, want 36v just add a battery and go.
never cared for lowrance and ran birds since at least the mid 70s, lovin the garmin set up.
Posted By: Minner Bucket

Re: prefered electronics - 08/14/20 01:45 PM

Hop you comparing the SI from your garmins to your old 898/899 birds or the newer Mega Imaging, theres a BIG difference.
Posted By: Chis D

Re: prefered electronics - 08/14/20 06:10 PM

I am getting back into fishing and trying to dip my toe into electronics, and have similar questions as the OP. Not trying to hijack, but just curious if the feelings are the same when you bring price into the equation.

I purchased a 93sv plus w/TD for $600 and a 106sv Ultra with UHD for $1500. I hope they work out for me, I by no means think they will be the best, but I did not want to spend the "most" either. That said, I see a lot of comparison of HB SI to Garmin SI, with a general consensus that Garmin is not up to par with HB on SI detail. I get that it is comparison of what is "best," but I had trouble with the bang-for-your-buck question. If you are looking at the 93sv UHD as an example for $1025, it seems like the direct competitor for new units would be the HB Mega 9 SI+ Gen3 at ~$1500 (and possibly a Solix (10in at $2499) if you add in the touch screen capability). When I started to tackle electronics, my original plan was to stay a year or two behind for better deals on "lesser" technology and stay under $2k (heck, I would be happy going back to a flasher, if everyone would). That said (and panoptix aside), I felt like the price and technology of a new Garmin unit was better than a 1-2 year old comparable Helix/Solix in the same price range. I don't mean this a as challenge to anything anyone has said, I am just curious if my approach is rational, or did I miss-the-boat not spending the extra 50-100% on an HB setup? Put another way, using the 93sv for $600, the 93sv UHD for $1050, or 106sv Ultra for $1500 (used) - are there better finders for the price?

Another tag along to the thread - How much do you use linking of the graphs to the TM? This is one of the biggest things I look forward to (spot lock on a way point, or navigate to a way point or route), but in many instance, it seems to be left out as a consideration. Is this just a given (i.e., absolutely match/link if you can)? Or, is it not as important, and not as useful as it sounds? As of now, I have a Terrova i-Pilot, and I am planning on a Force upgrade in a year or two.
Posted By: herbsteiner

Re: prefered electronics - 08/15/20 04:32 AM

I was a Lowrance man since, oh... early 80's. Small units all the way up to HDS9's. But I always preferred the optics of HB. Gear envy. Last year I replaced my 24v Fortrex with a 24v Ultrex, and while I was at the dealership arranging the deal, I started browsing at the 'Birds on the shelf. With no salesman involved, I independently impulse-purchased two HB Helix 10 GI/SI G3N units and said "slap these on there also." Salesman got a "wow! Okay!!" look on his face and a smile as wide as Lake Austin.

Total deal, with taxes and installation, was close to 8K, but WTF... I had the bucks and my old 2004 Skeeter liked the upgrade. cheers
Posted By: Fishinchristian

Re: prefered electronics - 08/15/20 07:57 PM

you might want to check your Heading sensor on your Ultrex maybe it lost power or Calibration?

Had it happen to me and like you said boat suddenly started hunting for position all the time now fixed the issue with the heading sensor now it works great again.
Posted By: coachallentca

Re: prefered electronics - 08/15/20 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by Minner Bucket
Hop you comparing the SI from your garmins to your old 898/899 birds or the newer Mega Imaging, theres a BIG difference.


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