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Fluoro to CoPoly

Posted By: Frank the Tank

Fluoro to CoPoly - 04/06/20 03:49 PM

I've been a Red Label guy for a while. Recently got a couple bad spools and it seems as thought the quality of Red Label is going down. Been thinking of switching to CoPoly and just don't have much confidence in the switch for slow dragging presentations. Anyone made that switch and seen same results? Let's discuss since we are all pretty much bored.
Posted By: SkeeterRonnie

Re: Fluoro to CoPoly - 04/06/20 03:56 PM

more stretch in copoly. I use it for cranks. Izorline XXX. it is surprisingly strong! You lose sensitivity, though.
Posted By: Lee Finlay

Re: Fluoro to CoPoly - 04/06/20 05:00 PM

I've read so many tests that disprove the myth that fluoro has less stretch.

I tired fluoro but realized it wasn't worth the extra money. I use P-Line CX Premium and CXX. It works great for my needs.
Posted By: David Welcher

Re: Fluoro to CoPoly - 04/06/20 05:20 PM

McCoys Copolymer. It's cheap and very good. Heck I even use the 20lb clear on our favorite lake and still catch fish. 20lb you can also use as anchor rope.
Posted By: squib

Re: Fluoro to CoPoly - 04/06/20 05:33 PM

Yep McCoy's is very good.
Posted By: TBassYates

Re: Fluoro to CoPoly - 04/06/20 05:34 PM

I have tried Fluoro a few times for certain techniques but have used McCoys CoPolymer line for many years and still think it is the best line going but still try the fluoro every once in a while. Ordered some and got it in the mail Saturday. Not going to mention the name because I know people who use it a lot and have excellent results with it and still not 100% sure it doesn't have something to do with human error when using this line. But I will just say that I couldn't wait to spool it up for my Fluke rig. First thing I will say is that the one thing I first noticed was the apparent memory of this line. One of the main reasons I like the McCoys Co Poly is pretty much no memory. Got it on my reel and put on my Fluke rig and headed next door (I am so lucky to have a next door neighbor with a pond with bass in it that I can walk to in about 2 minutes). Got to the pond, did some adjustments on the reel and started casting. First couple of casts were allright and then on my third cast I realized that my fluke went about twice as far as it should have and it was because the line broke about 20 feet into the reel. I immediately took the 2 minute walk back to my house, respooled my McCoys 15lb Xtra Clear CoPoly back onto my reel and preceded back to the pond to spend about an hour or so forgetting about the virus or other issues and caught 4 really healthy 2 to 3 lb bass. I am not sure what the deal is because I am one who knows Fluoro is a great product because I see so many great anglers using it but for this old goat I cannot see me spending any more time dealing with that line anymore. Confidence is a major part of fishing and I am back to sticking with what I feel like works for me again and cannot see me switching again.
Posted By: Frank the Tank

Re: Fluoro to CoPoly - 04/06/20 10:33 PM

clear McCoys or Mean Green?
Posted By: Frank the Tank

Re: Fluoro to CoPoly - 04/06/20 10:33 PM

Does it matter? Same line just without color, yes?
Posted By: CCTX

Re: Fluoro to CoPoly - 04/06/20 10:45 PM

I’d do mean green for E Texas lakes
Posted By: Flippin-Out

Re: Fluoro to CoPoly - 04/06/20 11:31 PM

Originally Posted by Lee Finlay
I've read so many tests that disprove the myth that fluoro has less stretch.

I tired fluoro but realized it wasn't worth the extra money. I use P-Line CX Premium and CXX. It works great for my needs.

I see someone else discovered the P-line secret. The CXX is a bit wirey, but I use it in some applications where the high abrasion resistance is useful, even Galveston Bay!
Posted By: Thad Rains

Re: Fluoro to CoPoly - 04/06/20 11:49 PM

McCoys is right on what he said above. I use Mean Green and I can pull a fully loaded boat with over 600 lbs of people in it with the 20#. I use 12, 15 and 17, for the most part, but noting wrong with the 20#. I use it as my main line, EXCEPT Crigging. TOO MUCH stretch in it for that, at least for me. Hope this helps. Tight lines, keep safe and good luck.

Thad Rains
Posted By: 361V

Re: Fluoro to CoPoly - 04/07/20 12:45 AM

Originally Posted by Frank the Tank
clear McCoys or Mean Green?

Mean Green for me. 17lb. most of the time for dragging soft plastics. 12-15lb for cranks. Works great for everything. I literally have braid on a frog rod and a C-rig rod and Mean Green on everything else.
Posted By: Greg W

Re: Fluoro to CoPoly - 04/07/20 03:13 AM

Anyone ever use Yo-Zuri hybrid, especially for moving baits? My partner uses it and likes it.
Posted By: Frank the Tank

Re: Fluoro to CoPoly - 04/07/20 05:58 AM

another thing I've started to see with Red Label is it's becoming much more brittle, almost dry. I have to condition it a lot more now-days. If you back-lash it, you can pretty much forget it
Posted By: Oldskool67

Re: Fluoro to CoPoly - 04/07/20 06:38 AM

I use the Yo -ZURi hybrid on a coupe set ups and like it. Honestly can’t tell much difference from the P line CXX for me
Posted By: Lee Finlay

Re: Fluoro to CoPoly - 04/07/20 10:02 AM

I tried YoZuri. It's tough stuff. Don't try to cut it with your teeth.
The 15lb is thick. Thicker than 15lb CXX.
It wasn't very sensitive, even with moving baits. A few times I realized I had a small fish on halfway through the retrieve. Never felt the strike.
Posted By: CCTX

Re: Fluoro to CoPoly - 04/07/20 10:24 AM

Keep in mind that different copolymers behave differently

Originally Posted by CCTX
Lots of different copolymers.

McCoy's Mean Green is silicone impregnated nylon monomer it floats better than any other line I’ve tried
Silver Thread Line is made with polymerization of different nylon monomers it floats, but not as well as McCoys
Yo-Zuri Hybrid is molecularly bonded nylon (mono) and fluorocarbon it sinks slowly
PLine CX and CXX are monofilaments with fluorocarbon silicone coating they skink slowly
CXX sinks slightly slower than CX

Posted By: H2O Seeker

Re: Fluoro to CoPoly - 04/08/20 01:05 AM

Originally Posted by CCTX
Keep in mind that different copolymers behave differently

Originally Posted by CCTX
Lots of different copolymers.

McCoy's Mean Green is silicone impregnated nylon monomer it floats better than any other line I’ve tried
Silver Thread Line is made with polymerization of different nylon monomers it floats, but not as well as McCoys
Yo-Zuri Hybrid is molecularly bonded nylon (mono) and fluorocarbon it sinks slowly
PLine CX and CXX are monofilaments with fluorocarbon silicone coating they skink slowly
CXX sinks slightly slower than CX


Learning this the hard way...and that stuff is not cheap!
Posted By: Frank the Tank

Re: Fluoro to CoPoly - 04/08/20 02:59 AM

Originally Posted by H2O Seeker
Originally Posted by CCTX
Keep in mind that different copolymers behave differently

Originally Posted by CCTX
Lots of different copolymers.

McCoy's Mean Green is silicone impregnated nylon monomer it floats better than any other line I’ve tried
Silver Thread Line is made with polymerization of different nylon monomers it floats, but not as well as McCoys
Yo-Zuri Hybrid is molecularly bonded nylon (mono) and fluorocarbon it sinks slowly
PLine CX and CXX are monofilaments with fluorocarbon silicone coating they skink slowly
CXX sinks slightly slower than CX


Learning this the hard way...and that stuff is not cheap!



CoPoly? Or Fluoro?
Posted By: Frank the Tank

Re: Fluoro to CoPoly - 04/08/20 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by CCTX
Keep in mind that different copolymers behave differently

Originally Posted by CCTX
Lots of different copolymers.

McCoy's Mean Green is silicone impregnated nylon monomer it floats better than any other line I’ve tried
Silver Thread Line is made with polymerization of different nylon monomers it floats, but not as well as McCoys
Yo-Zuri Hybrid is molecularly bonded nylon (mono) and fluorocarbon it sinks slowly
PLine CX and CXX are monofilaments with fluorocarbon silicone coating they skink slowly
CXX sinks slightly slower than CX




So CXX is fluoro coated too? Then what's the difference between CX and CXX?
Posted By: H2O Seeker

Re: Fluoro to CoPoly - 04/08/20 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by Frank the Tank
Originally Posted by H2O Seeker
Originally Posted by CCTX
Keep in mind that different copolymers behave differently

Originally Posted by CCTX
Lots of different copolymers.

McCoy's Mean Green is silicone impregnated nylon monomer it floats better than any other line I’ve tried
Silver Thread Line is made with polymerization of different nylon monomers it floats, but not as well as McCoys
Yo-Zuri Hybrid is molecularly bonded nylon (mono) and fluorocarbon it sinks slowly
PLine CX and CXX are monofilaments with fluorocarbon silicone coating they skink slowly
CXX sinks slightly slower than CX


Learning this the hard way...and that stuff is not cheap!



CoPoly? Or Fluoro?

Both are not cheap!
Posted By: CCTX

Re: Fluoro to CoPoly - 04/08/20 01:28 PM

Differences between CX and CXX
In the same pound test, CXX has a larger diameter, is stiffer/stronger, and more buoyant

CX premium has a nylon core with a silicone/fluorocarbon coated exterior—it’s more neutrally buoyant (sinks slowly)

CXX has a nylon core with a “titanium” silicone coating—why it’s so buoyant and strong

I use braid to copoly leader on every set up except frog and pitching/flipping very, very thick vegetation (straight braid)
I use CX when I want neutral buoyancy (jerkbaits, shaky head, drop shot) or if fishing ultra clear water finesse presentations
Posted By: senko9S

Re: Fluoro to CoPoly - 04/08/20 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by Frank the Tank
Originally Posted by CCTX
Keep in mind that different copolymers behave differently

Originally Posted by CCTX
Lots of different copolymers.

McCoy's Mean Green is silicone impregnated nylon monomer it floats better than any other line I’ve tried
Silver Thread Line is made with polymerization of different nylon monomers it floats, but not as well as McCoys
Yo-Zuri Hybrid is molecularly bonded nylon (mono) and fluorocarbon it sinks slowly
PLine CX and CXX are monofilaments with fluorocarbon silicone coating they skink slowly
CXX sinks slightly slower than CX




So CXX is fluoro coated too? Then what's the difference between CX and CXX?

diameter, everything is written on the package...
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