Buying info...

Makes you cool. Whether it be Big Bass Splash, Club championship, popular local trail or whatever. Find your own fish. Terrible sportsmanship in my opinion. You wanna buy info..go for it but stay out of tournaments.

must have missed it

Me too.

Where do you stand on selling info?

Didn’t miss anything. Somebody is pushing their product before a big tourney is set to begin soon and it just struck a chord with me. Nothing against the proprietor but everything against the buyer.

Oh this is gonna get good! must be those chips lol

Name your price

Lol

I know of a dam and some bridges that hold big bass. 1st hunnert bucks gets the 411....

There's more than one seller of waypoints here on TFF. Mostly community holes.

I see nothing wrong with it. It may help some, it may not. Elites did it for years

No kidding. Blow up over nothing.

If anybody has any for Texoma a friend is looking for info .

What about those hiring guides the day (or days) before?

Hope you never purchased a Martins Map or Hotspot map... exact same thing just before it could be plugged into a graph. Sounds more like the op has an axe to grind with a specific person.

Wonder if Navionics or Lakemaster chips should not be bought either. Mine has lots of spots marked.

Someone sounds butt hurt

I'd give you a dollar for more details on this confusing post.

Not me. Have not mentioned any advantages for tournament fisherman in my Advertisements; other than it is a great short cut for those that do not have time to search.

Probably referring to the FL app. I wouldn't be any part of it, but I don't care what other people do. Fishing isn't as simple as a waypoint and lure recommendation. Not for me anyway.

I'll sell some info. Dang wish I could do that.

I think the OP is referring to something more specific about location and pattern than Martin's Map or map chips could provide. I'm thinking guide trips right before the tournament.

I don't really see the problem. They still have to catch the fish. I would rather reason out my fish than be taken to a spot. What if the fish aren't there, then what does the guide customer do?

Some people get their draws twisted over such simple things.

Must have gotten beat by someone.

I know exactly what the OP is referring to! I watched it on YouTube yesterday it’s referring to the Fish Life app by LFG before the Sealy tournament. All I will say is that they are making a living doing what we all love to do and they have to make money and market their business in order to generate revenue. Me personally I wouldn’t use the app even if it was offered for free! I have never been very successful with trying to get on someone’s pattern. I prefer to find my own patterns to fish

How much are you willing to pay??

If that was the case he should have been more specific and mentioned the app instead of generalizing. A few immediately thought he was talking about the chips Mr. Harper was advertising.

NO app or chip can save you in a tournament anyways. The fish change and set up different almost every day. Like said above.....you still have to catch them.

The Sealy isn't even majority tournament fishermen, why would you think that many people are going to find their own spots on a lake they fish maybe once a year? And if you think those people should just stay away then, what do you think the payouts would end up being by lowering the numbers that much.

And if you have found your own spots, then why worry about someone else selling their spots?

I have been fishing tournaments for 55 years and defintely I am old school. I cannot see how anyone can be proud about winning a tournament when someone else had to show him where and how to fish.

When there's that many people on a lake it not only changes the fish but it changes where guys fish. A lot get caught in places that you normally wouldn't fish.

How many kids do you think will be on that app putting in fake spots just to throw people off? Sounds like a joke to me as an app.

Now that I know this about that stupid app I have to LOL! If the info doesnt do the purchaser any good then the folks providing the info can do the ole "well thats fishing" excuse or the ole "here's the pics from when we caught em there just a couple of days ago!" The perfect money maker, doesnt even have to produce!


This is a Sealy big bass tournament, totally different animal... this is one of the few tournaments its ok to hire a guide for 2-3 days the week of the tournament for your "prefishing", its ok to pull right on top of people you just saw catch a fish and make a cast, and dont worry about it being pitch black outside run the boat lane by GPS at 70 mph before the sun comes up to make sure your the first one to your starting spot so you can sit there for 2 hours waiting to start fishing.

The great Arnold Palmer once said... "Swing your swing, Not some idea of a swing, not a swing you saw on TV, or swing you wish you had. No, swing your swing." Solid advise from the King... Fish your fish and dont worry about what everyone else is doing.

A couple of years ago when you started on the forum didnt you ask people for information on a few lakes before one of your tournaments as well as which colors to use? No one cared when you were seeking info why do you care?

Well,a couple of years ago he needed help. But now he's a tournament pro so it's wrong.

No different then purchasing a guide, that is basically what people are doing is purchasing for a good day on the water, spots, baits and better knowledge for 101 fishing just without making the trip.

Did I ask for general information about a new lake? Yes. Did I ever seek specific information or spots right before a tournament? No. More importantly, did my OP make any qualm with someone asking about a lake? No.

My opinion is that I find it unsportsmanlike to buy specific info for a tourney. Are the fish guaranteed to be there? Of course not. Did you give yourself a potential edge with money instead of your own TOW? Yes. Do steroids guarantee you’ll hit the baseball? No but a lot of people decided that it was an unfair advantage. Heck, many popular local trails have off limit periods. Why? To level the playing field. Should the ethical standard vanish simply because a particular tourney may not have an off limits period? I don’t think so. Not sure why this needs to be explained.

Where did this come from?

I can sell you a bunch of spots not to fish. Save you a lot of time. LOL

Some of us don't worry or care what other competitors due. As long as it's not against the rules i don't worry about it

The infamous first post... Asking for specific information on of all places, Lake Fork!

https://texasfishingforum.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/11652387/lake-fork-bass-tips#Post11652387

Where the heck is Berch creek ?

I think the bigger problem is people are buying bass boats. They are also competitively fishing against each other in these bass boats. Their are also entire markets of products constantly selling competitive advantages to catch fish that can be purchased by the wealthiest individuals. We should instate mandatory bass boat buy backs and end this epidemic.

Anyway, it kinda boils down to, what do you want to be irrationally irritated about today? Make peace

This attitude is shared,by all the top finishers. The last thing they think abput is what other competitors are doing, something the OP fails to understand.
Seems lime it wasn't too terribly long ago that he was asking if a Barbie pole or a Snoopy pole was better....(sarcasm)

You should try carefully reading exactly what I’ve said before you run around yelling, “got ya!”

Heck of an effort though.

I did read it, it was a few days before the Skeeter Owner's Tournament. You asked about an area you were 'told' was good for bass fishing, and some specific spots... Maybe you did rent a pontoon, maybe not.
Heck, I have asked for help, and I freely admit it. I have sought information and researched. But I am not angry about others that do the same.

Lol, got em

You’re all about that research so look for me in that Skeeter tournament. Go show everybody how well you got me.

"Secondly, where are some prime spots that you guys may know of?" By "prime spots" you were just looking for vague info like "the western arm of Fork would be a good place to start for your upcoming tourney," right?

And by the way, I don't totally disagree with your original post--not sure I'd post about it, but I get annoyed at people buying info. I buy into "find your own fish," but...got to admit when you got got.

Buddy, I never said I’m against anybody asking for whatever they want to ask for whether it be general information or specific spots for their own leisure fishing. Ask away. I was very specific about attempts at what I consider to procure an unfair advantage for a tournament. How is that so difficult to understand?

So it’s ok to ask where to fish at but it’s not ok to pay for that information. Got it...

A decent angler can look at a lake map and find places where fish could likely be depending on the season, water temps, water level and water color.
I mean someone who has never been on a particular lake. It's not that hard really to find "likely" spots.

If anyone is interested I will consider selling my "spots"

"Gents and Ladies,

Taking my pops out to Lake Fork for a Father's Day bass extravaganza along with the family. Can't use a bass boat so we are taking a pontoon boat. I'm not thrilled about a pontoon but hey, we'll be fishing so It will be fun. Anyway, we're staying in a cabin off of Berch Creek about 3/4 of the way up that finger. I've never been to Fork and I my bass fishing experience has been limited to shoreline fishing. My first question is Berch Creek, which I'm told is a great area for great bass, big enough for a pontoon boat? Secondly, where are some prime spots that you guys may know of?I hope you guys go some good stuff for me! Thanks!

-Rob"


That's pretty much asking for spots of others, your words directly quoted from your post

I don’t fish tournaments but if I did it would be for one reason only, to win money. Then, why would I not use every means available under the rules to give me every chance of being successful? You pay for the best gear you can afford and the best electronics to give you every edge. Even the pros have solicited info when it was legal, rented helicopters to scope out the lake or used guides. Maybe your request on Fork was just for casual fishing but I bet if someone had given you some prime spots and you later fished a tournament there, you wouldn’t say to yourself I can’t use those spots because I didn’t find them on my own.

I have a hard time sympathizing with its ok for someone to sell the info but not ok for someone to buy them Maybe you should fish tournaments that don’t allow sharing of info but then it might be unfair if someone has more free time to explore the lake then you do.

How much for a chip showing your brush piles on Ray Hubbard ? Heck I could make that money back in one tournament.

Stay off my fish Doug.

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Lol. Comprehensive reading is hard for some of you.

You must have been hard pressed finding tournaments back in 1964. Don't tell me in 55 years you never received info from someone. I did; and I'm proud of every win I got.
I'm old school too. If us old timers want to fish against these young guns, we better have a computer load of information. These kids are better than we ever were.

it's negotiable

I'll start the bidding at $50.

maybe a good putting lesson

Let's see, brush pile chip for a putting lesson ? Hell yeah, I can make $$$ and have fun at the same time with those brush piles. Deal. Met one of your members, Tommy Yates last Saturday. Nice guy.

Selling info that doesn’t produce for whatever reason, & a catchall excuse for when it don’t work & is useless has been done for years. I see it every evening on weatherman reports. LOL

+1 BUSTED

I still haven't found the related video the OP was referring to. Anyone have a link so I can be up to speed?

Sounds like it was a guide who posts videos on youtube and has an app. You aren't really missing anything.