Posted By: Allison1
Lithium batteries new LTO chemistry - 05/06/18 05:16 PM
I've been reading about one of the new Lithium Ion battery chemistry. They are LTO or Lithium Titanate.
One of the newest nano technologies and these batteries are used in some of the latest hybrid and electric cars.
They have some very significant advantages over the regular Lithium Ion batteries in that:
They are safe. They have not started a fire.
The have a higher temperature operating range.
Their life is significantly higher with over 10,000 charge cycles.
They can be charged at a very high rate, from full discharge to fully charged in 10 minutes.
Their charging efficiency is 98%.
Normal batteries, flooded cell and AGM are useful to only 50% of the battery energy before the voltage falls and they don't work very well. The LTO and I think the regular Lithium Ion both use 100%. That means a normal battery which is used for trolling service normally is around 100Ah. A Lithium Ion can be 50Ah and have the same useable energy.
I found a place that sells a 2.4v 30Ah cell that is made to be used in parallel series. 10 cells for 24v and 15 cells for 36v. The cells sell for around 68 dollars a cell so 680 dollars for a light 24v system. Double that for a system rated 60Ah which would be plenty for anyone. Same for the 36v system, 1060 for the 30Ah system and 2120 for the 60Ah system. These are metal encased individual cells so using these the weight is not as light as what I would want. For a 60 Ah 36v system it would weigh 110 pounds,plus extra weight with the strapping to put them in parallel series and a battery case.
You could also buy off EBAY some of the used batteries coming off some of the wrecked cars using these batteries and create a usable battery for much less, also knowing you may have an unknown lifetime. With the large number of cycles however this may be the cheapest route. I don't know.
Anybody heard of these? A person in the golf cart industry was building custom batteries for his boat. He could taylor them for different uses from engine starting to running the AC.
One of the newest nano technologies and these batteries are used in some of the latest hybrid and electric cars.
They have some very significant advantages over the regular Lithium Ion batteries in that:
They are safe. They have not started a fire.
The have a higher temperature operating range.
Their life is significantly higher with over 10,000 charge cycles.
They can be charged at a very high rate, from full discharge to fully charged in 10 minutes.
Their charging efficiency is 98%.
Normal batteries, flooded cell and AGM are useful to only 50% of the battery energy before the voltage falls and they don't work very well. The LTO and I think the regular Lithium Ion both use 100%. That means a normal battery which is used for trolling service normally is around 100Ah. A Lithium Ion can be 50Ah and have the same useable energy.
I found a place that sells a 2.4v 30Ah cell that is made to be used in parallel series. 10 cells for 24v and 15 cells for 36v. The cells sell for around 68 dollars a cell so 680 dollars for a light 24v system. Double that for a system rated 60Ah which would be plenty for anyone. Same for the 36v system, 1060 for the 30Ah system and 2120 for the 60Ah system. These are metal encased individual cells so using these the weight is not as light as what I would want. For a 60 Ah 36v system it would weigh 110 pounds,plus extra weight with the strapping to put them in parallel series and a battery case.
You could also buy off EBAY some of the used batteries coming off some of the wrecked cars using these batteries and create a usable battery for much less, also knowing you may have an unknown lifetime. With the large number of cycles however this may be the cheapest route. I don't know.
Anybody heard of these? A person in the golf cart industry was building custom batteries for his boat. He could taylor them for different uses from engine starting to running the AC.