GORE-TEX vs Other Material Rain Suits

Is there other material out there that's as good as GORE-TEX with blocking wind and water? Over the last 5 years, I've exclusively used GORE-TEX when fishing in cold wet weather, when snow skiing and love it but it comes at a premium cost.

I'm looking to replace my BPS 100MPH (GORE-TEX) with something that isn't insulated and lighter but after a bad experience with material other than GORE-TEX I'm afraid to try other stuff.

Anyone have any experience with rain suits that promises they are 100% windproof and waterproof?

bps has some lighter weight gortex suits for around what you're asking for your 100mph set I believe. someone should jump on your set at that price.

If you are talking wet & COLD, you better stay with that Gore Tex

I don't know of a cheaper form of GoreTex, But......I do know of a more expensive version....GORE-TEX PRO.

Heck of a sale on this Simms suit. I have the Simms Challenger suit which is not GoreTex and I love it. This one is GoreTex though but priced right....

http://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Simms_Contender_Rain_Jacket/descpage-SCJK.html

check out hunting clothes with goretex. if you dont mine camo. cabelas is having a sale.

BPS used to have an XPS series that is GoreTex and is very good and was less then 100mph, they have a Bone Dry series that is even less and very good and lighter. I have all three and each has it’s own application.

I use Cabela's guidewear goretex and it's pretty thin. No problems yet

My 100mph gear is uninsulated. Been wearing it for 15 years and cant kill it.

The bass pro 200MPH is lighter and less insulated. I prefer it over the 100mph. It allows me to layer, and take off layers as it gets warmer and warmer.

What’s is everyone’s opinion on gortex or 100mph suits vs Simms, at whatever the best is in each version, regardless of price? Or is there another suit or brand that if you can afford it is even better?

I own 100mph, but wish I could afford Simms.

Idigear.com Arctic Armor.

Look at the FG2 jacket from Gill gillna.com - this is the best wet weather jacket and I have owned them all.

The bps bone dry rain wear is exactly same material that the academy h20 is made of.
They are wind proof and seem to be dry as best I can tell. But I don’t fish in heavy down poors
For long. I will say we fished intermittent rain and wind cold last Saturday.
J D

This is the best I've ever owned by a long shot.
After that the old Cabellas 10X, Cabellas Guidewear, BP 200MPH. When you wash the GorTex use a product specifically designed for it. I've had good luck with Granger's Clothing Wash+Repel sold by Walmart on line and many others as well.
In spring and winter I wear mine 3-6 times a week and they get washed very often. The Granger's will make the suits close to the new performance.

Gill FG2. Couldn't be happier.

Right there with ya... had my 100 MPH bibs since 2005 still 100% water and wind proof. One of the best investments I've made gear wise.

Where can I touch one of these?

I think the 100 MPH has a liner in it now that you can take in and out.

Simms pro dry suit is way overpriced. You’d think they would be better off selling a lot more of them for a little less $$

Columbia, light weight and packs into itself
https://www.columbia.com/technology-omnitech/#prefn1=genderGroup&prefv1=Men%27s/

I have a Columbia "Titanium" jacket that's about eight years old, still keeps me dry. Have the pants too, they worked until I snagged them a few times with treble hooks..

I was able to look at the Gill fg2 as someone mentioned. In my opinion, the gill is the best of them all. I am going to sell my barely used bps gortex suit and buy a gill suit. They are more comfortable, better constructed to take an all day rain and still not get even a little wet, comes in various colors, just all around d better than bps or Simms. They all work, but like many things, some work better and are overall better. Just depends on what you want and can afford.

Me personally, after the past few cold wet and windy weekends fishing Rayburn and Toledo, my comfort is worth the money and I’m buying gill.

Totally waterproof and venting seems to be gaining on gore tex.

https://andrewskurka.com/2015/why-im-hard-on-gore-tex-the-king-of-hype-tm/

Your skin is waterproof and breathable also....I wonder if this Internet guy will argue that one as well.

Some people will say and skew any fact to make themselves seem like a hero, won't they?

You got that right!

Wore Frogg Togg bottoms yesterday in 23 degree weather with longjohns, jeans and stayed warm. excellent at blocking wind and keeping dry. Also easy on and off and when you have to urinate easy to get down and at my age that's a big deal.

I have the feeling if Gore-Tex changed their name to Gore-Cal you might be more open minded about some of the new materials available today.

https://www.wired.com/2015/02/voormi-core-technology/

I have worn Frog Toggs forever over layers of clothes and one thing I found a couple of years ago are the Blue jeans at Bass Pro that go on sale with the fleece type lining in them. Just as warm as regular blue jeans with long johns but without the hassle of dealing with them falling and bunching up and another layer to get past for [censored] breaks.
My brother is going to let me use his Bone Dry jacket this weekend and said after I use it I will go get one. He really likes this product so I am anxious to see how it works.

Depends what you're looking for both in terms of material and amount of protection as well as weight/warmth, but I like Simms -- because I like light stuff and prefer to layer.

About Gore-Tex -- did you know you have to recharge it by putting it in a dryer at max heat? I know that sounds scary, but I talked to the tech folks at Gore a few years back when I noticed the waterproofness of the GoreTex -- NOT the material of the coat -- would not work after a hard day of hunting in the rain. That's what they told me. Sure enough it works.

Blackhorse, were you in the Army. I was in the 3rd/11th ACR known as the Workhorse Squadron of the Blackhorse (11th ACR) Regiment.

I am all in for what works, and I have a BPS 100mph Jacket, As well as Frog Toggs...but I always question why we don't use tried and true. Commercial fishermen don't use Gore-Tex. My railroader father didn't either. They old yellow slickers... Is there a particular reason we don't use them as the standard for freshwater fishing like they are in most other outdoor industries?

For 30 minutes AFTER it's dry.

it allows the fibers to stand up again and bead water.

I have Simms and GuideWear. It seems so stiff. The Simms especially.

When you purchase rain jackets and it does not matter the brand you need to wash it and dry it at a hot temp to renew the DWR (durable water repellent). After prolong being rained on the exposed material will wet out and cannot shed water and wets out..you either dry it out or change jackets..the Gore tex is the internal membrane..need to wash at least once a year

Because there isn't a giant name plastered on the stuff. Bass fisherman really need a giant name. They pay alot of extra cash for it too.

And they are heavy and don't breath well.

The fisherman or the rain gear?

In my case, fisherman.........seems to happen the older you get.

H2O xpress acdemy way cheaper will keep you dry not insulated

It's hard to put a price on ur comfort when the weather is bad . Comparing bps 100mph or gill to academy h2o is comparing apples to oranges

That would be style. But yes I wear old school heavy raingear bib and parka when working in rain.
I’ve had them since 1999 they are very durable and work well. One other thing I work in heavy rain on occasion .

Going on year two h20 they are more than adequate. I have a job that requires me to work in the rain and cold
For that I use heavy rain gear it works very well. To relax and go fishing the h20 is light and very good no complaints.
J D

No it's not, for 500 bucks or more I'll just stay wet if my h20 suit doesn't work.

quality gortex is the best tool a boat owner can have. ive had my 100mph gear since 1999 and it serves double on a motorcycle. talk about a great investment...

you're better off down in the off topic with your logic...

I don't remember the year but I bought a pro qualifier Goretex set at the clearance store in Springfield the first year they came out with them. Bright yellow parka lol, black bibs. Both are still in perfect working order and dry as the day I got them. I have a 100 mph set also, it's heavier and warmer than the pro qualifier. Goretex=dry. Boots, gloves, hats, whatever, if it says Goretex it's worth every penny.

When I was first looking at quality foul weather gear, years ago, I couldn't bring myself to spend the $500+ for a GORE-TEX suit so I bought some cheap frog toggs. Went fishing and it was 30* and raining. The first thing I did after that trip was spend the $500+ for a 100MPH suit and it has been money well spent.

It has to be 100% waterproof AND windproof for me.

There are a couple of manufacturers touting that their material is as good, specifically the Gill suits, but they aren't cheap and if they're the same price as gore-tex then I probably wouldn't take a chance on them.

Personally, I can't put a price on being warm, comfortable, light, 100% dry and 100% windproof.

Anybody have experience with the Carhartt Force Extremes? I fished with a guy a couple of weeks ago who had em and really liked em.

The next weekend i fished with a guy who had the Huk ~$100 jacket. It was losing the print after the first wash and he ripped it out in the arm pit that day. Two trips to the lake and it was toast.

Gore-Tex is the best I’ve used, but for the price the Academy H2O is pretty good. Blocks the wind, rain and is fairly light.

yes sir 1/11th A Trp 70-71.

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72-75 Bad Hersfeld ALLONS my brother. 11B mos.

Si'!!!!

Or sumtheeeengz

Depending on your size you can get Cabela's goretex guidewear wear for less than $200 right now. I'd buy that over h20 all day. Its quality stuff. Keeps me dry