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New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass
Posted By: burner42
New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 02/01/18 06:54 AM
Posted By: Gamblinman
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 02/01/18 09:38 AM
Mike put one on my Gambler just a few months ago. You'll probably have to adjust how deep you put the trailer in the water as the boat slides right on and off the trailer. No loss of speed or handling.
Posted By: MMosher
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 02/01/18 12:15 PM
Sweet! Love the gator hull.
Posted By: GIG'EM AGGIES
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 02/01/18 12:19 PM
Yeah for sure let us know what you think, pro's and con's. Everybody who fishes Fork has met many of those stumps and/or a rebar.
Posted By: 206champion
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 02/01/18 12:26 PM
Looks good
Posted By: GODSDOZER
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 02/01/18 12:52 PM
Looks great!
Posted By: SteezMacQueen
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 02/01/18 01:52 PM
They pull the motor to spray the hull?
Posted By: 6BOOMER
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 02/01/18 01:57 PM
Yes sir remove engine then flip.
Posted By: Rick Collis
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 02/01/18 02:45 PM
They pull the motor to spray the hull?
There's a lot more to it than just spraying the hull.
Posted By: TEXASJIGSTER
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 02/01/18 04:17 PM
What's the charge and how long do they have your boat ?
Posted By: kellisag
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 02/01/18 04:26 PM
There goes your top end spee....never mind it's a ranger.
Posted By: 6BOOMER
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 02/01/18 05:00 PM
Charge depends on damage if not much a 20-21 ft boat 3k. On my Triton no speed loss and took 1 week during the holidays.
Posted By: Rocky Robison
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 02/01/18 05:25 PM
There goes your top end spee....never mind it's a ranger.
I know you're ribbing him about Rangers speed, but...
You can actually blueprint the bottom of the hull(pad) easier with this applied to get a higher top end speed, even tho you have added a little extra weight. Not saying you can't blueprint a fiberglass hull(pad), just easier to do with this.
Posted By: 1oldbassguy
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 02/01/18 06:07 PM
looks nice and seems to be a good addition to the hull ----but what exactly do they do and why is it worth $3K ?
Posted By: 6BOOMER
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 02/01/18 07:07 PM
Grind fiberglass matt down, repair if needed add three layers of glass then the coating. Much less than traditional fiberglass repair and gel coating.
Posted By: Devil Horse
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 02/01/18 08:22 PM
looks nice and seems to be a good addition to the hull ----but what exactly do they do and why is it worth $3K ?
Ive often wondered this. Isn't it basically like a LineX substance?
Posted By: Rick Collis
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 02/01/18 08:25 PM
looks nice and seems to be a good addition to the hull ----but what exactly do they do and why is it worth $3K ?
Ive often wondered this. Isn't it basically like a LineX substance?
No. Call Mike at Lake Fork Fiberglass for details. 903-473-4161
Posted By: the skipper
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 02/01/18 08:28 PM
Why is your keel guard still on? Did they put a new one on or just spray around the old one? I've just always heard you don't need one once you get that stuff sprayed on
Posted By: Jarrett Latta
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 02/01/18 08:28 PM
You can plow stumps with gator hulls. It's not simply line x.
Posted By: stretch
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 02/01/18 10:06 PM
Is this the same "Kevlar" BS that guys put on their jeeps so when they go offroading and rockcrawling it wont mess up the paint?
Posted By: Huckleberry
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 02/01/18 10:17 PM
Is this the same "Kevlar" BS that guys put on their jeeps so when they go offroading and rockcrawling it wont mess up the paint?
It really works, you should get your canoe done.
Posted By: bradnitro175
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 02/02/18 12:19 AM
It's like concrete when you knock on it.I had an old beater boat I had done after I cratered a stump.solid as a rock
Posted By: SteezMacQueen
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 02/02/18 12:34 AM
Yes sir remove engine then flip.
They pull the motor to spray the hull?
There's a lot more to it than just spraying the hull.
Ah....I see!
Awesome. I guess that would be the best way to do it. For some reason, I pictured an employee sitting under the boat with some kind of spray gun, like LineX, shooting the stuff up towards the boat.
The pictures don't do the thing justice. I'd like to see it in person. I bet it's really nice.
Posted By: stretch
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 02/02/18 02:04 AM
Is this the same "Kevlar" BS that guys put on their jeeps so when they go offroading and rockcrawling it wont mess up the paint?
It really works, you should get your canoe done.
Posted By: burner42
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 02/02/18 03:39 AM
What's the charge and how long do they have your boat ?
I hit a rock pile at Hubbard last summer, not terrible damage, but it did expose the fiberglass weave. Mike had me in and out in a week for right at $3500, my insurance covered everything minus my $250 deductible.
Posted By: burner42
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 02/02/18 03:47 AM
Why is your keel guard still on? Did they put a new one on or just spray around the old one? I've just always heard you don't need one once you get that stuff sprayed on
It's still nice to have my keel guard for beaching etc, just because I have the gator hull doesn't mean I'll abuse it anymore than I did before, he removed it for the process.
Posted By: burner42
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 02/02/18 03:52 AM
Yes sir remove engine then flip.
They pull the motor to spray the hull?
There's a lot more to it than just spraying the hull.
Ah....I see!
Awesome. I guess that would be the best way to do it. For some reason, I pictured an employee sitting under the boat with some kind of spray gun, like LineX, shooting the stuff up towards the boat.
The pictures don't do the thing justice. I'd like to see it in person. I bet it's really nice.
It's pretty cool, has a semi rough texture, and just feels harder when you knock on it. I'm taking it out tomorrow and Saturday to test it out. I did a few other things over the past month, so goinggyo hive them a rundown too.
Posted By: txmasterpo
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 02/02/18 04:28 AM
I wonder what that would cost on a 17' boat with no damage?
Posted By: RANDYSGLIDE
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 02/02/18 01:01 PM
Sounds like a good deal
Posted By: RayBob
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 02/02/18 01:22 PM
Sounds kinda like the Gorilla Hull that Toledo Fiberglass has been doing for a couple of decades.
http://toledofiberglass.com/gorilla-hull
Posted By: J-2
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 02/02/18 01:53 PM
I would be afraid it would hide structural damage. The coating may not crack but what about the glass under it. Impact damage could still be present and you wouldnt know?
Posted By: TEXASJIGSTER
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 02/02/18 03:37 PM
Adding weight with a rough surface and not slowing it down? Hmm...
Posted By: Sinkey
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 02/02/18 03:39 PM
There goes your top end spee....never mind it's a ranger.
Man, I owned that same exact boat he has in the pic, and surprisingly that boat was pretty fast.
Posted By: Huckleberry
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 02/02/18 04:41 PM
Adding weight with a rough surface and not slowing it down? Hmm...
When you're on pad and 98% of the boat is out of the water, you are running on a golf ball like dimpled surface which reduces friction. I've heard of some guys only having the pad area coated for increased speed. On the other hand, if you don't know how to drive a boat on pad (high plane is not the same) then you will probably experience a decrease in speed.
Posted By: SkinnyT
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 02/02/18 08:26 PM
My Gorilla hull only added 34 lbs of weight on my boat. I did have to lower my motor a 1/2 inch to get the same performance like it was before. Same top speed. I have pulled up on boat ramps and idled over stumps here at Rayburn and not a scratch on it. I don`t baby my stuff either, it gets used and abused.
Posted By: TBassYates
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 02/02/18 08:45 PM
Mike has been doing great work like that for a lot of years.
Posted By: Rocky Robison
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 02/03/18 07:57 AM
Adding weight with a rough surface and not slowing it down? Hmm...
When you're on pad and 98% of the boat is out of the water, you are running on a golf ball like dimpled surface which reduces friction. I've heard of some guys only having the pad area coated for increased speed. On the other hand, if you don't know how to drive a boat on pad (high plane is not the same) then you will probably experience a decrease in speed.
Basically this ^^^^
When you get on pad, and are only on the last 6" of it at high speeds on slick water, it loses contact with the surface numerous times in short distances, getting complete air slows boats down, coming back down causes heavier friction(not really noticeable in slow boats)and this slows boats down too. This is when you see a lot of boats start to chine walk, older Stratos boats above 70mph were really bad because of their design at the chines and pad, some people would say the design of their strakes contributed too, on pad not any part of any of your strakes should be touching water.
On water with chop, you usually have the prop under just a little more for drive ability at high speeds which causes friction from more boat being in the water, because when you were higher you'd lose contact in chop, with a blueprinted hull you can run higher and the water channels against the pad still.
We use to blueprint hulls on the cheap, and I was taught this by a friend that owned a fiberglass and tackle shop. He had a Bullet back then that would've given Ken A. and Greg Hodges Bullets a run back in the early 90s. I'm talking 100mph bass boats. They didn't blueprint on the cheap tho!
This is how we did it on the cheap back in the early 90s when bass boats started to get stupid fast.
Sand down the last 8-10" inches of the pad to make it rough. Get a textured roller and apply some Marine Tex, you can add paint to match hull. Once it dries and hardens you can apply a little more color paint to match better. What this has done is caused channels in the pad that keeps a thin film of water contact flowing against the pad which can increase speed with a little extra weight.
Posted By: Allen Bass Fisher
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 02/05/18 02:09 PM
I hit a stump on Welsh this past Friday. Hull now leaking pretty bad. Going to check out Lake Fork Fiberglass today.
Posted By: Gamblinman
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 02/05/18 02:44 PM
I hit a stump on Welsh this past Friday. Hull now leaking pretty bad. Going to check out Lake Fork Fiberglass today.
Sorry to hear. Mike will take care of it. Only difference I can tell after Mike applied the Gator Hull to my Gambler is it comes off and goes on the trailer much easier...A LOT EASIER!
Posted By: the skipper
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 02/05/18 03:25 PM
If I ever get any hull damage I will get toledo to put their stuff on mine. Lifetime warranty and no more worries.
Posted By: Gamblinman
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 02/06/18 12:45 AM
If I ever get any hull damage I will get toledo to put their stuff on mine. Lifetime warranty and no more worries.
Lifetime warranty with Gator Hull also. Mike will repair any damage to the Gator Hull, free of charge, no questions asked.
Posted By: Stroker XS
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 02/06/18 04:28 AM
There goes your top end spee....never mind it's a ranger.
Blahahahahaha
Posted By: Boone921
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 02/07/18 03:07 AM
Mike did a Gator hull on my old Champion. Did a great job at a fair price. Good guy to boot.
Posted By: SC-001
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 11/17/20 04:13 PM
This is how we did it on the cheap back in the early 90s when bass boats started to get stupid fast.
Sand down the last 8-10" inches of the pad to make it rough. Get a textured roller and apply some Marine Tex, you can add paint to match hull. Once it dries and hardens you can apply a little more color paint to match better. What this has done is caused channels in the pad that keeps a thin film of water contact flowing against the pad which can increase speed with a little extra weight.
I seen a Triton like that, wondered what that was on the pad
looks nice and seems to be a good addition to the hull ----but what exactly do they do and why is it worth $3K ?
Ive often wondered this. Isn't it basically like a LineX substance?
No. Call Mike at Lake Fork Fiberglass for details. 903-473-4161
So what is it, I might put one of these on my boat, are the gator, gorilla, comparable in price?
Posted By: Jeff From Iowa
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 11/17/20 04:39 PM
The reason it is stronger is they add 3 layers of fiberglass then they spray the gel coat like material while the fiberglass is still hot/curing so it all melts into one layer.
Our boats are usually fiberglass. Then gel coat. So you hit something and crack the gel coat and if you keep running it w the cracks or chips below the water line they spread and chip away etc.
I have Gorilla hull mines got gouges out of it from rocks but it doesnât leak because it doesnât continue to chip away like regular gel coat.
I wish I had Used lake fork fiberglass.
My experience at Toledo fiberglass was terrible. They were supposed to repair every chip and scratch on my whole boat and my hull was supposed to be blue. They did black and did not do a single other repair. They had my boat about 2 months. They also could not be bothered to put my cover back on when they put it outside, it was sitting in my boat in a garbage bag.
Posted By: Allen Bass Fisher
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 11/17/20 07:49 PM
The reason it is stronger is they add 3 layers of fiberglass then they spray the gel coat like material while the fiberglass is still hot/curing so it all melts into one layer.
Our boats are usually fiberglass. Then gel coat. So you hit something and crack the gel coat and if you keep running it w the cracks or chips below the water line they spread and chip away etc.
I have Gorilla hull mines got gouges out of it from rocks but it doesnât leak because it doesnât continue to chip away like regular gel coat.
I wish I had Used lake fork fiberglass.
My experience at Toledo fiberglass was terrible. They were supposed to repair every chip and scratch on my whole boat and my hull was supposed to be blue. They did black and did not do a single other repair. They had my boat about 2 months. They also could not be bothered to put my cover back on when they put it outside, it was sitting in my boat in a garbage bag.
I had Gorilla hull put on the Toledo Fiberglass a few years ago. They did a great job on the hull! They did not do a great job of putting my batteries back in. They were hooked up wrong. I have four batteries (36 volt TM). The main starting battery was fine but they hooked up the other batteries wrong. They sent me a check for $125 (labor cost) to rewire the batteries but not more then a few months later my charger went out. No idea if them hooking up the batteries wrong caused this but makes me wonder.
Posted By: Bruce Allen
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 11/17/20 09:23 PM
Mike has done 2 of my boats. The first kinda needed it and when I sold it the guy bought it at full price because of the gator hull.
On the second one I had torn a hole in the bottom getting up on a T-post. He said the repair would cost the same as a gator hull and the insurance (Progressive) company saw it that way too. And once again the buyer of that boat saw the gator hull as one of the good selling point.
Even though the hull seems sound in my current boat if needed I will pay to have it done a third time. Mike is the best.
Posted By: skins84
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 11/18/20 01:08 AM
Mike has done 2 for me. Really nice work.
Posted By: Bass-N-Buck Master
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 11/18/20 04:27 AM
Ran over some rebar during the Berkely tourney then after another spot almost in boat lane thought I was clear almost on plane and hit stump slightly bent my prop shaft. My stomach is still in knots bout it the at amend of tournament got stung by yellow jacket đ!
Posted By: Jarrett Latta
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 11/18/20 03:24 PM
Marine Clean in Nacogdoches also installs this process on hulls. It's well worth it if you are on stumpy/rocky lakes
Mike is a great guy and treated me well, but I would in no way recommend this hull on a skeeter because of speed lost. I would go with the gorilla hull from toledo since its smooth mikes is rough and will hurt your top end speed for sure on a skeeter.
Posted By: bobrfishes
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 11/21/20 11:18 PM
I have had Mike do three for me.
If I ever buy another boat he will probably do it too !
Mike knows his stuff. Good product.
Posted By: Used2fish
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 03/06/23 02:40 PM
Does anyone have a good phone number for the shop? The one on the internet has an automated message âthis number is not in serviceâ
Thanks
Posted By: Used2fish
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 03/06/23 03:07 PM
I made a few phone calls and found it. I knew Mike had retired. I did not know they moved the shop and changed the name.
Posted By: bradnitro175
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 03/06/23 03:21 PM
What's the new info
Posted By: TxBazzn
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 03/06/23 03:35 PM
Beware!! The bottom is slick. My father had to lock up the brakes on the highway and the boat slide forward breaking both straps and the metal piece that holds the winch. Boat stopped against the tail gate. And that was without any impact!
Just be careful guys. Great product but itâs slick.
Posted By: Ken A.
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 03/06/23 03:50 PM
There goes your top end spee....never mind it's a ranger.
Man, I owned that same exact boat he has in the pic, and surprisingly that boat was pretty fast.
I would say your definition of a fast boat is a little skewed cuz you've run Skeeters for so long. LOL
Posted By: Big Red 12
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 03/06/23 04:28 PM
They coat the bottom of the Gator Hull so that the resin will dry faster so you can get the boat on the lake quicker. You need to keep it tied down good transporting it to and from. Backing down the ramp, keep it attached until you get to the water. Do this until you feel the boat start to grab putting it on the trailer.
I don't know that they have moved places. May have changed the name. When I called this number, I got the person that bought it from Mike. Not sure what his name was.972-473-4161 or 4547. I called about a month ago or so. Not sure if the numbers have changed or not.
Posted By: Used2fish
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 03/06/23 05:04 PM
Yeah big red that doesnât work any longer.
I called service marine and they are the ones that informed me of the change of name and venue. I left a voicemail and have not heard anything back. Starting to feel like Iâll be at Toledo fiberglass instead. Uggg
Posted By: Used2fish
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 03/06/23 05:27 PM
Got a call back. Guy said heâs having trouble with his phone.
Itâs east Texas Fiberglass off hwy 80 in Mineola. Said he tried to sign a long term lease where the original shop was but the owner of the building (not Mike) and he couldnât make it work.
(903) 570-3645
Posted By: Sinkey
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 03/06/23 06:25 PM
There goes your top end spee....never mind it's a ranger.
Man, I owned that same exact boat he has in the pic, and surprisingly that boat was pretty fast.
I would say your definition of a fast boat is a little skewed cuz you've run Skeeters for so long. LOL
You only passed me once..... in a Bullet! That doesnt count!
Posted By: Ken A.
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 03/06/23 06:38 PM
There goes your top end spee....never mind it's a ranger.
Man, I owned that same exact boat he has in the pic, and surprisingly that boat was pretty fast.
I would say your definition of a fast boat is a little skewed cuz you've run Skeeters for so long. LOL
You only passed me once..... in a Bullet! That doesnt count!
That ole bug boat of yours ran pretty good. The look on your face when I came around you was priceless!!
Posted By: Sinkey
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 03/06/23 07:03 PM
I was running about 74 mph. You passed me and slowed down to wave!
But you did get to see a good fish catching clinic that day!
Posted By: Ken A.
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 03/06/23 08:52 PM
I was running about 74 mph. You passed me and slowed down to wave!
But you did get to see a good fish catching clinic that day!
Yes we did. You guys were On Em Good!
Posted By: yandeltx
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 03/07/23 03:32 AM
Do they pull the motor or do you have to take it off before dropping it off?
Posted By: Bandit 200 XP
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 03/07/23 10:38 AM
Sweet! Love the gator hull.
Posted By: pacertom
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 03/07/23 02:03 PM
Got a call back. Guy said heâs having trouble with his phone.
Itâs east Texas Fiberglass off hwy 80 in Mineola. Said he tried to sign a long term lease where the original shop was but the owner of the building (not Mike) and he couldnât make it work.
(903) 570-3645
I had mine done a few months ago. Guys name is Robert, good guy and good work. No complaints here.
Posted By: HARD WORKN HAROLD
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 03/08/23 01:52 AM
YUP!!! Had mine done about a year ago. Mike told me to hook up winch strap the first 3 or 4 times I pulled out, but after that I could pull up on trailer and pull out without worrying about it. The "slick" will wear off. Great product and great people!
Posted By: Dan21XRS
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 03/08/23 02:32 AM
Do you still need the Hamby's???... Dan
Posted By: Bruce Allen
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 03/09/23 03:05 PM
Yandeltex-they pull the motor and empty the gas tank.
Posted By: Big Red 12
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 03/09/23 04:04 PM
Do you still need the Hamby's???... Dan
They left mine on.
Posted By: Big Red 12
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 03/09/23 04:05 PM
Yandeltex-they pull the motor and empty the gas tank.
Yes, they do. So, try to run ad much of the gas out that you can.
Now Mike would compensate you that. I don't know about the new people.
Posted By: SC 210
Re: New Gator Hull by Lake Fork Fiberglass - 03/09/23 06:13 PM
I had one put on my Falcon after the first use. It is a tremendous product and Mike was a pleasure to work with but I did lose 4mph top end speed but the security of the hull was well worth it as I hit a stump on pad at Rayburn last year and you couldn't tell i even hit it.