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Co-Angler Etiquette

Posted By: DinkerPlinker

Co-Angler Etiquette - 11/21/17 02:43 AM

Today was talking with a friend about fishing as a co angler in a tournament. We’re both pretty new to the tournament scene, so I’m wondering what kind of etticute or what things we need to make sure to do or not do when fishing as a co-angler. Any advice is appreciated! Also figured this might could help some other people wondering the same thing. Thanks all
Posted By: Danny L. Weems

Re: Co-Angler Etticute? - 11/21/17 03:30 AM

There have been several threads on this in the past with some really good information, you may be able to do a search and find them. I fished FLW Costa series southwestern division for 2 years as a co and just finished my first full season as a boater so I've seen both sides.
As a co I had about 50% of the boaters that were very good fishermen and I learned something from each of them. As a co you have to be able to adapt and figure out a way to catch fish no matter the situation.
I got along with all of the boaters that I drew and made life long friends with some.
My advice would be to go into the tournaments to have fun and learn a few things, if you catch fish and end up getting a check then that's a bonus.
Have a good attitude.
Respect the boat you fish in.
Do not use dip and dye. The pens work just as good and there is no chance of spilling.
If you don't know how to back a trailer or don't feel comfortable just let your boater know. He would rather you tell him instead of backing up the line while you take 10 attempts at getting him put in or tearing the fenders off his trailer when parking.
Respect your boaters water. Don't cast forward of the console unless your boaters says so.
Remember that they paid a higher entry fee and put in the time and effort to locate fish and formulate a game plan for tournament day. This is not a guided trip, most are not concerned with you catching fish. With that being said I had plenty of boaters that went out of their way to get me fish but I never expected it.
Know how to net fish.
Try not to use lures that are bad about getting hung up. Don't expect your boater to go get your lure unhung all day. I would ask a couple times and then I would just break off if I got hung again unless it was really quick and easy to get undone. Again most boaters don't mind unless it gets extreme.
Clean your trash up out of the boat.
Offer to help wipe down the boat or put cover on.
Offer gas money at the end of the day. $40 is what I normally gave although some wouldn't take it.
Other than that just use common sense and above all have a good time.
Posted By: bjankowski

Re: Co-Angler Etticute? - 11/21/17 03:59 AM

Originally Posted By: Danny L. Weems
There have been several threads on this in the past with some really good information, you may be able to do a search and find them. I fished FLW Costa series southwestern division for 2 years as a co and just finished my first full season as a boater so I've seen both sides.
As a co I had about 50% of the boaters that were very good fishermen and I learned something from each of them. As a co you have to be able to adapt and figure out a way to catch fish no matter the situation.
I got along with all of the boaters that I drew and made life long friends with some.
My advice would be to go into the tournaments to have fun and learn a few things, if you catch fish and end up getting a check then that's a bonus.
Have a good attitude.
Respect the boat you fish in.
Do not use dip and dye. The pens work just as good and there is no chance of spilling.
If you don't know how to back a trailer or don't feel comfortable just let your boater know. He would rather you tell him instead of backing up the line while you take 10 attempts at getting him put in or tearing the fenders off his trailer when parking.
Respect your boaters water. Don't cast forward of the console unless your boaters says so.
Remember that they paid a higher entry fee and put in the time and effort to locate fish and formulate a game plan for tournament day. This is not a guided trip, most are not concerned with you catching fish. With that being said I had plenty of boaters that went out of their way to get me fish but I never expected it.
Know how to net fish.
Try not to use lures that are bad about getting hung up. Don't expect your boater to go get your lure unhung all day. I would ask a couple times and then I would just break off if I got hung again unless it was really quick and easy to get undone. Again most boaters don't mind unless it gets extreme.
Clean your trash up out of the boat.
Offer to help wipe down the boat or put cover on.
Offer gas money at the end of the day. $40 is what I normally gave although some wouldn't take it.
Other than that just use common sense and above all have a good time.


Good answer, just act like you're in their living room and ask to share expenses. I've been blessed over the years to fish a lot team tournament and fished like we were a team, regardless if we were in their boat or mine. One point to ponder is never cast to the back, no one likes to back up to get you out of the stump you just got hung up in.
Posted By: TinRangerJim

Re: Co-Angler Etticute? - 11/21/17 04:08 AM

Travel light! By this, I mean don't take every rod/reel you own, two or three tackle bags, and a 40-quart cooler! Take four or five (max) rod/reel set-ups (some tournament trails put a limit on this, check the rules on what a co-angler can bring), and only enough lures/tackle to fill two or three 3600 size Plano boxes. Concentrate on soft plastics, since you may end up dragging a T-rig, dropshot, Senko or jig most of the day. You can also bring a few crankbaits (I use mostly squarebills or lipless rattle baits) and a couple of spinnerbaits in Zip-Loc bags. These will fit nicely into a medium-sized backpack along with your rain gear, snacks, and a couple of bottles of water. Bring scissors, line clippers and long-nose pliers along, don't count on borrowing that stuff from your boater all day long.
Don't step on the seats!
If you smoke, ask for permission before you light up. A lot of boaters will not allow smoking in the boat. And if you chew, bring a spit bottle. Boaters do not appreciate tobacco juice all along the side of the boat!
Like Danny said, don't trash the boat! Take a plastic grocery bag along to put your torn-up plastics, line ends, food wrappers and drink bottles in, and take it out of the boat at the end of the day.
Posted By: SoCal Tom

Re: Co-Angler Etticute? - 11/21/17 11:07 AM

Danny covered most everything really well. I fish ABA as a Co and most of the guys I have drawn were great. Treat their boat BETTER than if it was your own. Be organized. Talk with them the night before and have an idea what you will be doing the next day and bring tackle and rods to fit the situation. Bring gas money! Offer to buy the ice in the morning! If you can back a trailer, let them know you can, but don't get offended if they want to do it themselves. When they say "we're going to move" get your line out, life jacket on and gear stowed. Don't make them wait on you. Talk about netting procedures before you start. There will be some sitting around time before start normally. Use that time productively and get to know your guy a bit. Hold your tongue. I have been with guys that flat out don't give you much room. It's going to happen. If you casually mention something early and get zero response, hunker down and prepare yourself for a long day. Do what you can to try and make a productive cast and take advantage of it when you do. Say thank you at the end of the day.
Posted By: DBFishing83

Re: Co-Angler Etticute? - 11/21/17 11:46 AM

sounds like fun if you get a good boater
sounds like a nightmare if you get an A$$
Posted By: SoCal Tom

Re: Co-Angler Etticute? - 11/21/17 12:34 PM

Originally Posted By: flukeman83
sounds like fun if you get a good boater
sounds like a nightmare if you get an A$$


The A$$'s are few and far between. It can be frustrating when your boater is catching them and you aren't. I've been lucky to see it the opposite way as well, where I was catching them and they were not. Once in a while you get the rare day when you both are on them and it's a blast. It's very different from a team tournament, but fun anyways.
Posted By: DBFishing83

Re: Co-Angler Etticute? - 11/21/17 01:46 PM

Can someone explain the sign up procedure for a co-angler ?
Posted By: coachmas

Re: Co-Angler Etticute? - 11/21/17 02:42 PM

^^^ depends on what circuit, but with most you can find a boater to link with which will guarantee your spot in the field. By that I mean, if more co-anglers sign up than boaters then some co-anglers don’t get to fish.


Also, try to do a search on here. There have been many good threads related to the subject. I’ve fished as a co-angler for many years even after I got my own boat and will probably continue to do so in the future. Fill free to shoot me a pm if you have any specific questions. I’ve fished co-angler one ABA east and southeast many years and been blessed to get to fish a couple times in Alabama and South Carolina in the championships. Coach
Posted By: PEDRO H.

Re: Co-Angler Etticute? - 11/21/17 03:03 PM

Here’s a good write up my partner did.
I believe He was a two time AOY as a co-angler in the BASS weekend series trail.
Enjoy,
http://texasfishingforum.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3823043/1
Posted By: Donald Harper

Re: Co-Angler Etticute? - 11/21/17 03:23 PM

Keep your feet off the Top Cap of the boat. It leaves scratches.
Posted By: buda13

Re: Co-Angler Etticute? - 11/21/17 03:38 PM

Originally Posted By: Donald Harper
Keep your feet off the Top Cap of the boat. It leaves scratches.


Now if only I could get my dogs to do that.... cyclop
Posted By: SC-001

Re: Co-Angler Etticute? - 11/21/17 04:23 PM

https://www.flwfishing.com/tips/2002-02-19-co-angler-etiquette
Posted By: Phoenix_Ed

Re: Co-Angler Etticute? - 11/21/17 05:54 PM

All good stuff, I have miscellaneous random comments.

I fished the last two years as a co in the BFL Cowboy division, had a great group of boaters. I am going boater this year primarily due to health reasons with my back, I need to control how the boat runs, got the hell beat out of me a couple of times, dealt with it but I cannot do that anymore.

Like others said, break it off, I went to lead weights instead of tungsten while fishing as a co, fished primarily plastics. Keep hooks and weights handy. I generally went with 5 rods, took 6 a couple of times if I had a spinning rod. I used a bag that held 4 3700 boxes, fit under my legs, brought a bag with rain gear, snacks, water etc that fit in a rear compartment. Was told by my first two they were impressed with my organization. I basically thought about the things that aggravated me with someone else in my boat and tried to not be that guy. Always gave my guys $40, some would argue, I argued back!

Look for things you have confidence in, at times it will fit with what your boater is doing, other times you will have to adapt. Throw a fluke.

When you come in to weigh fish, you be the one to jump out of the boat and stand in line to get a weigh in bag. Have a good time and thank your boater at the end of the day.

And one other thing, it is etiquette. Sorry it is one of those things.
Posted By: M. Alexander

Re: Co-Angler Etticute? - 11/21/17 10:20 PM

Originally Posted By: DinkerPlinker
Today was talking with a friend about fishing as a co angler in a tournament. We’re both pretty new to the tournament scene, so I’m wondering what kind of etticute or what things we need to make sure to do or not do when fishing as a co-angler. Any advice is appreciated! Also figured this might could help some other people wondering the same thing. Thanks all


Etiquette* grin
Posted By: DEFMP

Re: Co-Angler Etticute? - 11/22/17 12:18 AM

Most important piece of advice, learn how to back a trailer down the ramp, and park the truck and trailer.
Posted By: SteezMacQueen

Re: Co-Angler Etticute? - 11/22/17 12:27 AM

Originally Posted By: M. Alexander
Originally Posted By: DinkerPlinker
Today was talking with a friend about fishing as a co angler in a tournament. We’re both pretty new to the tournament scene, so I’m wondering what kind of etticute or what things we need to make sure to do or not do when fishing as a co-angler. Any advice is appreciated! Also figured this might could help some other people wondering the same thing. Thanks all


Etiquette* grin

Ediquitit already.
Posted By: gut hooked

Re: Co-Angler Etticute? - 11/22/17 09:29 AM

Good work boys....everyone played nice in the sandbox on this one. All posts are well written and informative....

My add is manage the rods well. Leave rod sleeves in the truck. When it is time to move, do the tripple rap move with the line on rods to avoid tangling of lines.

Bring a back up reel or 2. Alternatively, order a few extra spools for your favorite reels, spool w line, and keep in back pack to avoid losing a rod due to a bad backlash. I have backups for my citicas o e spooled w 15 lb flouro and 1 w braid

Also, bring cull clips and remember your life jacket.

I had a guy show up without a pfd and asked if i had one.....ooops
Posted By: SoCal Tom

Re: Co-Angler Etticute? - 11/22/17 11:00 AM

All great tips. The only thing I rely on my boater for is a measuring board and a net
Posted By: Fish Killer

Re: Co-Angler Etticute? - 11/22/17 01:24 PM

http://texasfishingforum.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3051674/Re:_Co_Angler_Ethics

Here is a post from a few years ago
Posted By: texasbass1

Re: Co-Angler Etticute? - 11/22/17 02:23 PM

As a boater, please don't wear boots with deep tread. You will track sand and dirt in then grind it into the carpet. Or if you do at least rinse them off before tracking through the boat. The other advice is great.
Posted By: stringwise

Re: Co-Angler Etticute? - 11/22/17 02:53 PM

I captain for a HS fishing team. There is a huge difference between kids I captain for each weekend.


The good ones:

Help uncover and launch the boat.
Bring their own food/drinks
Don't toss pliers around after getting out a hook
Don't put their boots/shoes on the shiny parts of the boat
Don't track dirt and mud into the boat
Don't slam the rod lockers
Don't [censored] on the boat
Don't get snagged every cast on their bottom/crank style baits
Offer to wipe the boat down
Offer gas money
Offer to cover the boat

The bad ones find a way to miss several or many of the above.
Posted By: WAWI

Re: Co-Angler Etticute? - 11/22/17 03:13 PM

When taking a dump off the back of boat make sure it clears splash well. In the event it doesn't deal with it. If not you risk it getting washed on the back deck in rough conditions.
Posted By: Ken A.

Re: Co-Angler Etticute? - 11/22/17 03:23 PM

Originally Posted By: M. Alexander
Originally Posted By: DinkerPlinker
Today was talking with a friend about fishing as a co angler in a tournament. We’re both pretty new to the tournament scene, so I’m wondering what kind of etticute or what things we need to make sure to do or not do when fishing as a co-angler. Any advice is appreciated! Also figured this might could help some other people wondering the same thing. Thanks all


Etiquette* grin


Thank You! I was wundering when someone was gonna say sumpthin about the speling!

thumb roflmao
Posted By: Ken A.

Re: Co-Angler Etticute? - 11/22/17 03:25 PM

Originally Posted By: bjankowski
Originally Posted By: Danny L. Weems
There have been several threads on this in the past with some really good information, you may be able to do a search and find them. I fished FLW Costa series southwestern division for 2 years as a co and just finished my first full season as a boater so I've seen both sides.
As a co I had about 50% of the boaters that were very good fishermen and I learned something from each of them. As a co you have to be able to adapt and figure out a way to catch fish no matter the situation.
I got along with all of the boaters that I drew and made life long friends with some.
My advice would be to go into the tournaments to have fun and learn a few things, if you catch fish and end up getting a check then that's a bonus.
Have a good attitude.
Respect the boat you fish in.
Do not use dip and dye. The pens work just as good and there is no chance of spilling.
If you don't know how to back a trailer or don't feel comfortable just let your boater know. He would rather you tell him instead of backing up the line while you take 10 attempts at getting him put in or tearing the fenders off his trailer when parking.
Respect your boaters water. Don't cast forward of the console unless your boaters says so.
Remember that they paid a higher entry fee and put in the time and effort to locate fish and formulate a game plan for tournament day. This is not a guided trip, most are not concerned with you catching fish. With that being said I had plenty of boaters that went out of their way to get me fish but I never expected it.
Know how to net fish.
Try not to use lures that are bad about getting hung up. Don't expect your boater to go get your lure unhung all day. I would ask a couple times and then I would just break off if I got hung again unless it was really quick and easy to get undone. Again most boaters don't mind unless it gets extreme.
Clean your trash up out of the boat.
Offer to help wipe down the boat or put cover on.
Offer gas money at the end of the day. $40 is what I normally gave although some wouldn't take it.
Other than that just use common sense and above all have a good time.


Good answer, just act like you're in their living room and ask to share expenses. I've been blessed over the years to fish a lot team tournament and fished like we were a team, regardless if we were in their boat or mine. One point to ponder is never cast to the back, no one likes to back up to get you out of the stump you just got hung up in.


+10
Posted By: BMCD

Re: Co-Angler Etticute? - 11/22/17 03:26 PM

Originally Posted By: DEFMP
Most important piece of advice, learn how to back a trailer down the ramp, and park the truck and trailer.


Good advice or be willing to tell your boater your not comfortable backing it down. as a Boater I always ask now. Not worth having to pay for damage later down the road.
Posted By: WAWI

Re: Co-Angler Etticute? - 11/22/17 03:32 PM

Originally Posted By: BMCD
Originally Posted By: DEFMP
Most important piece of advice, learn how to back a trailer down the ramp, and park the truck and trailer.


Good advice or be willing to tell your boater your not comfortable backing it down. as a Boater I always ask now. Not worth having to pay for damage later down the road.


Not to single out co anglers half the boaters can't seem to carry out this task either.
Posted By: CPATTERSON

Re: Co-Angler Etticute? - 11/24/17 06:22 AM

Im new to the Tournament side of fishing....
I have a good buddy I fish with in his boat.
Here is what I have learned:
1st) My Dad has taught me from day one, Boats don't run on "Thank You". If you're out on another guys boat, you get the gas.
I make it a point, if we stop to fill up, I get to the pump first and slide my card.

Pay Attention. I will usually watch what my boater is doing. If he's throwing a certain color, I'll go with a different color. Or, I'll use a different technique. It has helped figure out patterns.

Treat his boat as I do my own... Keep track of your trash and your gear. Nobody likes clutter.

When nature calls, let him know you've gotta urinate... he will tell you go off the back. DO NOT urinate ON HIS BOAT OR MOTOR!! (I couldn't tell you how many times I've trailered my boat went to wipe it down and had dried yellow urine dribbles on the back!!)
Speaking of wiping down, help him wipe his boat down after.

Respect his space... My guy is good about inviting me up front. NEVER assume its ok and hop up there.

MOST IMPORTANT: RESPECT!!
Your boater more than likely will take you to "Secret Spots"... If you own your own boat, remember those are his spots. Don't head out there on another day and fish them. 9 times outta 10 he'll either say "Try Here" or put you "ON" a good spot... those are OK to fish whenever, BUT.... if he says "I've got a little hidden spot we're gonna try" or "This is my money hole" Leave It Alone!!
The EASIEST way to lose a good fishing buddy or make sure he stops giving you advice is to fish his spots.

Have Fun... Its fishing. The nerves kick in as soon as that horn blows... Its OK to birdnest on your first cast of a tourney. It happens LOL (TRUST ME!)
Yes, you're fishing for money, yes you want to be invited back out on his boat, NO you don't want to be THAT guy... Just have fun. Pay attention, Listen and FISH!!

Posted By: Ken A.

Re: Co-Angler Etticute? - 11/24/17 06:48 PM

Originally Posted By: CPATTERSON
Im new to the Tournament side of fishing....
I have a good buddy I fish with in his boat.
Here is what I have learned:
1st) My Dad has taught me from day one, Boats don't run on "Thank You". If you're out on another guys boat, you get the gas.
I make it a point, if we stop to fill up, I get to the pump first and slide my card.

Pay Attention. I will usually watch what my boater is doing. If he's throwing a certain color, I'll go with a different color. Or, I'll use a different technique. It has helped figure out patterns.

Treat his boat as I do my own... Keep track of your trash and your gear. Nobody likes clutter.

When nature calls, let him know you've gotta urinate... he will tell you go off the back. DO NOT urinate ON HIS BOAT OR MOTOR!! (I couldn't tell you how many times I've trailered my boat went to wipe it down and had dried yellow urine dribbles on the back!!)
Speaking of wiping down, help him wipe his boat down after.

Respect his space... My guy is good about inviting me up front. NEVER assume its ok and hop up there.

MOST IMPORTANT: RESPECT!!
Your boater more than likely will take you to "Secret Spots"... If you own your own boat, remember those are his spots. Don't head out there on another day and fish them. 9 times outta 10 he'll either say "Try Here" or put you "ON" a good spot... those are OK to fish whenever, BUT.... if he says "I've got a little hidden spot we're gonna try" or "This is my money hole" Leave It Alone!!
The EASIEST way to lose a good fishing buddy or make sure he stops giving you advice is to fish his spots.

Have Fun... Its fishing. The nerves kick in as soon as that horn blows... Its OK to birdnest on your first cast of a tourney. It happens LOL (TRUST ME!)
Yes, you're fishing for money, yes you want to be invited back out on his boat, NO you don't want to be THAT guy... Just have fun. Pay attention, Listen and FISH!!



This guy gets it!
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