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Using Trout as Bait

Posted By: Holzer

Using Trout as Bait - 01/19/21 04:57 PM

1 - Yes, it is illegal per TPWD.
2 - Stay focused to the question.
I was asked this today and I wasn't sure of the correct answer.

*** If you bought trout at the local grocery store, would that fish be exempt to the rule if you were using the purchased trout as bait? ***

Of course, I think it would be a good idea to keep your receipt. But with the trout stockings that the TPWD does at this time of the year, would it fly with the wardens if you bought from a grocer store?
Or, are trout (game fish) illegal to use as bait, period?
Posted By: Chambers Creek

Re: Using Trout as Bait - 01/19/21 05:49 PM

It is illegal trout is classified as a game fish and TP&W states No game fish or parts of gamefish can be used for bait!
Posted By: Timberking

Re: Using Trout as Bait - 01/19/21 05:51 PM

Those giant stripers love the stocking size. The whole fish. Grocery store fish I have seen are all dressed. I guess if you had the receipt, it would be interesting to explain to GW you just needed some cut bait.
Posted By: Osbornfishing

Re: Using Trout as Bait - 01/19/21 05:52 PM

Illegal, since it is still the same species whether it comes from a waterbody or a store.
Posted By: BrandoA

Re: Using Trout as Bait - 01/19/21 06:33 PM

Could a person use bought trout in private waters?
Posted By: Chambers Creek

Re: Using Trout as Bait - 01/19/21 06:57 PM

In private waters you could use any bait you like just lock the gate and keep it to yourself!
Posted By: Holzer

Re: Using Trout as Bait - 01/19/21 07:23 PM

Sounds like everyone is voting for still illegal - even if they come from the store. Even on private waters wink
Posted By: banker-always fishing

Re: Using Trout as Bait - 01/19/21 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by Osbornfishing
Illegal, since it is still the same species whether it comes from a waterbody or a store.





Yep! thumb
Posted By: JJ4MEL

Re: Using Trout as Bait - 01/19/21 08:22 PM

I had a "friend" back in the 90's that caught some HUGE striper below the Canyon Lake dam using stock trout for bait. This was back before we really had swim baits that looked like trout.

Same friend caught the state record striper out in the same spot until it was confirmed the fish was caught using live trout and stripped the record.
Posted By: Timberking

Re: Using Trout as Bait - 01/19/21 08:49 PM

Big ones below the dam at Lake Hamilton. Been issues in the past of using as bait.
Posted By: TXMulti-Species

Re: Using Trout as Bait - 01/19/21 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by Osbornfishing
Illegal, since it is still the same species whether it comes from a waterbody or a store.

Yeah, even if you have a receipt it won't matter. There's no way to prove you didn't catch some trout and use those in addition to the ones you bought so they can't allow that.
Posted By: Dubee

Re: Using Trout as Bait - 01/19/21 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by Chambers Creek
In private waters you could use any bait you like just lock the gate and keep it to yourself!


Private pond on private land you would be ok.
Posted By: JStokley

Re: Using Trout as Bait - 01/20/21 01:09 PM

If your fishing a private lake or pond there are no state regulations in Texas. Now if your fishing on private property on a public lake, that's a different story.
Posted By: hopalong

Re: Using Trout as Bait - 01/20/21 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by JJ4MEL
I had a "friend" back in the 90's that caught some HUGE striper below the Canyon Lake dam using stock trout for bait. This was back before we really had swim baits that looked like trout.

Same friend caught the state record striper out in the same spot until it was confirmed the fish was caught using live trout and stripped the record.



back in about 1980 or so I used trout below canyon, horseshoe falls was a guaranteed big striper hole. gw told me back then that the trout were legal since they were not native.
best day I had was 5 striper over 20# and 2 of those were over 30#. we had one heck of a fish fry at whitewater sports
Posted By: PKfishin

Re: Using Trout as Bait - 01/20/21 03:38 PM

I had a guide up in Arkansas tell me that he would catch some trout in the white river then go down where the Buffalo runs into the white and use the trout to catch double digit LM Bass. Big fine if you are caught but stripers and LM Bass eat lots of them. There are some big stripers below PK along with huge gar and flatheads so any trout they stock are going to get reduced by those predators.

I had a game and fish warden in Arkansas tell me they sometimes have to remove big stripers from below beaver if they come up river and start eating the trout.
Posted By: Holzer

Re: Using Trout as Bait - 01/20/21 08:02 PM

I might have to get me a trout looking lure!
Posted By: scubaarchery

Re: Using Trout as Bait - 01/22/21 04:08 AM

I fish the stocked ponds for trout and helped a guy land a 6lb largemouth that ate the trout he was reeling in. I also lost a big largemouth at Towne Lake that did the same thing to a trout I caught. Many states outside of Texas, you can buy stocked trout for bait! Unfortunately, not here...
Posted By: 361V

Re: Using Trout as Bait - 01/22/21 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by JJ4MEL
I had a "friend" back in the 90's that caught some HUGE striper below the Canyon Lake dam using stock trout for bait. This was back before we really had swim baits that looked like trout.

Same friend caught the state record striper out in the same spot until it was confirmed the fish was caught using live trout and stripped the record.

Originally Posted by hopalong
Originally Posted by JJ4MEL
I had a "friend" back in the 90's that caught some HUGE striper below the Canyon Lake dam using stock trout for bait. This was back before we really had swim baits that looked like trout.

Same friend caught the state record striper out in the same spot until it was confirmed the fish was caught using live trout and stripped the record.



back in about 1980 or so I used trout below canyon, horseshoe falls was a guaranteed big striper hole. gw told me back then that the trout were legal since they were not native.
best day I had was 5 striper over 20# and 2 of those were over 30#. we had one heck of a fish fry at whitewater sports
JJ4MEL’s story sounds identical to the Shane Davies story except he was fishing with trout in the Brazos below the PK dam. Had a record disqualified and he was fined the 1st time and arrested the next time. It is defiantly illegal.
Posted By: Jerry713

Re: Using Trout as Bait - 01/22/21 12:52 PM

Only brown or what most of us know as sea trout and rainbow trout are gamefish in Texas and cannot be used as bait. All other species are legal to use. You'd want to make sure if you get stopped the warden can clearly identify the type of species you're using for bait but I firmly believe it is legal as long as it's not brown or rainbow. I've seen guys at the jetties use sand trout for bait all the time.
Posted By: hopalong

Re: Using Trout as Bait - 01/22/21 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by 361V
Originally Posted by JJ4MEL
I had a "friend" back in the 90's that caught some HUGE striper below the Canyon Lake dam using stock trout for bait. This was back before we really had swim baits that looked like trout.

Same friend caught the state record striper out in the same spot until it was confirmed the fish was caught using live trout and stripped the record.

Originally Posted by hopalong
Originally Posted by JJ4MEL
I had a "friend" back in the 90's that caught some HUGE striper below the Canyon Lake dam using stock trout for bait. This was back before we really had swim baits that looked like trout.

Same friend caught the state record striper out in the same spot until it was confirmed the fish was caught using live trout and stripped the record.



back in about 1980 or so I used trout below canyon, horseshoe falls was a guaranteed big striper hole. gw told me back then that the trout were legal since they were not native.
best day I had was 5 striper over 20# and 2 of those were over 30#. we had one heck of a fish fry at whitewater sports
JJ4MEL’s story sounds identical to the Shane Davies story except he was fishing with trout in the Brazos below the PK dam. Had a record disqualified and he was fined the 1st time and arrested the next time. It is defiantly illegal.



asked the gw before I ever did it, back then they were legal to use according to him, now not so much.
Posted By: Holzer

Re: Using Trout as Bait - 01/22/21 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by 361V
Originally Posted by JJ4MEL
I had a "friend" back in the 90's that caught some HUGE striper below the Canyon Lake dam using stock trout for bait. This was back before we really had swim baits that looked like trout.

Same friend caught the state record striper out in the same spot until it was confirmed the fish was caught using live trout and stripped the record.

Originally Posted by hopalong
Originally Posted by JJ4MEL
I had a "friend" back in the 90's that caught some HUGE striper below the Canyon Lake dam using stock trout for bait. This was back before we really had swim baits that looked like trout.

Same friend caught the state record striper out in the same spot until it was confirmed the fish was caught using live trout and stripped the record.



back in about 1980 or so I used trout below canyon, horseshoe falls was a guaranteed big striper hole. gw told me back then that the trout were legal since they were not native.
best day I had was 5 striper over 20# and 2 of those were over 30#. we had one heck of a fish fry at whitewater sports
JJ4MEL’s story sounds identical to the Shane Davies story except he was fishing with trout in the Brazos below the PK dam. Had a record disqualified and he was fined the 1st time and arrested the next time. It is defiantly illegal.


That post reminded me of the same story, but I couldn't remember the guides name.
Years ago, a guy on the forum caught a really nice striper on a guided trip with Shane and it sparked up the past of Davies. He was on here giving his side of the story. Which from what I recall, according to him, at the time he generally didn't know, accepted the fine, paid his dues and never did it again.

But I don't recall there being any news of continuing to do so and getting arrested.
If SeaProTodd and some others from the striped fish forum area see this thread they may be able to remember more than what I do.
Posted By: JJ4MEL

Re: Using Trout as Bait - 01/22/21 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by hopalong
Originally Posted by JJ4MEL
I had a "friend" back in the 90's that caught some HUGE striper below the Canyon Lake dam using stock trout for bait. This was back before we really had swim baits that looked like trout.

Same friend caught the state record striper out in the same spot until it was confirmed the fish was caught using live trout and stripped the record.



back in about 1980 or so I used trout below canyon, horseshoe falls was a guaranteed big striper hole. gw told me back then that the trout were legal since they were not native.
best day I had was 5 striper over 20# and 2 of those were over 30#. we had one heck of a fish fry at whitewater sports


Yep, Horseshoe Falls and Horseshoe Bend produced some really nice stringers of trout back then. I lived on the lake and would would canoe down the river at night to avoid the GW. Right where the water dropped and the current got slower is where they would just sit there and ambush. Great times!
Posted By: rickt300

Re: Using Trout as Bait - 01/23/21 02:29 AM

If you start explaining things to a Texas game warden your already in trouble.
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