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Type 5 PFD ?

Posted By: Whaler-170

Type 5 PFD ? - 06/22/19 09:40 PM

Can kids under 13 wear them legally. My youngest son is 12 and we do a lot of trolling. The neoprene vest are hot to wear at idle speeds. From what I’ve read I’m not sure. One says it must be a type 1,2 or 3 and the other just says a coastguard approved wearable PFD.
Posted By: BillS2006

Re: Type 5 PFD ? - 06/22/19 09:53 PM

All children under 13 years of age in all vessels under 26 feet in length must
wear a U.S. Coast Guard approved wearable PFD while underway. Underway
means not at anchor, made fast to the shore, or aground.

Vessels 16 feet and longer, excluding canoes and kayaks, are required to be
equipped with one Type IV throwable PFD in addition to the Type I, II, III, or V
PFD required for each person on board.
Inflatable PFDs are authorized only when used in accordance with requirements
as presented on U.S. Coast Guard approval labels.
Posted By: BillS2006

Re: Type 5 PFD ? - 06/22/19 09:57 PM

From the coast Guard:

TYPE V PFDS / SPECIAL USE DEVICES: Only for special uses or conditions.
See label for limits of use:

Hybrid Inflatable PFDs
Canoe/Kayak Vest
Boardsailing Vests
Deck Suits
Work Vests for Commercial Vessels
Commercial Whitewater Vests
Man-Overboard Rescue Devices
Law Enforcement Flotation Devices
Note: The Coast Guard is working with the PFD community to revise the classification and labeling of PFDs. When completed, this information will be updated and hopefully be somewhat easier to understand. Meanwhile, spending a few minutes to understand the many options available to find a PFD that you’re willing to wear could mean the difference between life and death for you or a loved one.
Posted By: Whaler-170

Re: Type 5 PFD ? - 06/22/19 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by BillS2006
All children under 13 years of age in all vessels under 26 feet in length must
wear a U.S. Coast Guard approved wearable PFD while underway. Underway
means not at anchor, made fast to the shore, or aground.

Vessels 16 feet and longer, excluding canoes and kayaks, are required to be
equipped with one Type IV throwable PFD in addition to the Type I, II, III, or V
PFD required for each person on board.
Inflatable PFDs are authorized only when used in accordance with requirements
as presented on U.S. Coast Guard approval labels.



I read this as well but when you look at the water safety act it states only a 1,2 or 3.
Most type 5 say 16 or older and 80 or more pounds. My son is well over 80 pounds and tall for a 12 year old.

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Posted By: 04champ

Re: Type 5 PFD ? - 06/23/19 01:32 AM

I don't think trolling is considered "underway"
Posted By: 04champ

Re: Type 5 PFD ? - 06/23/19 01:41 AM

Also, there's plenty of type 2 and 3 inflatables available out there
Posted By: Bob Landry

Re: Type 5 PFD ? - 06/23/19 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by 04champ
I don't think trolling is considered "underway"


If the boat is moving it is considered underway.
Posted By: BillS2006

Re: Type 5 PFD ? - 06/23/19 01:08 PM

You will have to look at different brands and models of inflatable life vests, and find one that the Coast Guard label says is approved for your 12 year old, by weight or age.
Posted By: BillS2006

Re: Type 5 PFD ? - 06/23/19 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by 04champ
I don't think trolling is considered "underway"



The word "underway" means that a vessel is not at anchor, or made fast to the shore, or aground according to the Coast Guard.
Posted By: Jimbo

Re: Type 5 PFD ? - 06/24/19 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by 04champ
I don't think trolling is considered "underway"


roflmao
Posted By: Whaler-170

Re: Type 5 PFD ? - 06/25/19 03:01 AM

Talked with the local game wardens today and was told as long as he met the weight requirements there would be no problem.
Posted By: RANDYSGLIDE

Re: Type 5 PFD ? - 06/25/19 11:32 PM

I read on the kill switch law post that underway is 6 mph. My trolling motor doesn't go that fast
Posted By: BillS2006

Re: Type 5 PFD ? - 06/26/19 12:34 AM

Originally Posted by RANDYSGLIDE
I read on the kill switch law post that underway is 6 mph. My trolling motor doesn't go that fast


Different laws.
Posted By: Boomerbrewer

Re: Type 5 PFD ? - 06/26/19 06:46 PM

The kill switch law includes the term underway at "headway speed" which is arguably and I mean arguably 6 mph. Thank god for that little addition that was missing from previous versions.
Posted By: TGalyon1

Re: Type 5 PFD ? - 07/01/19 06:18 AM

Originally Posted by Jimbo
[quote=04champ]I don't think trolling is considered "underway"



If you are not at anchor or morned you are under way. If you motor of sale is in use you are making way.
Posted By: Jim Ford

Re: Type 5 PFD ? - 07/02/19 01:17 AM

Headway speed is the minimum speed at which you can maintain steerage. For most vessels that is well under 6 mph.
Posted By: Jim Ford

Re: Type 5 PFD ? - 07/02/19 01:18 AM

Headway speed is the minimum speed at which you can maintain steerage. For most vessels that is well under 6 mph.
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