Grapevine Robbery

On the night of December 8th 3 men illegally entered Silverlake Marina and robbed multiple boats. Unfortunately mine was one of them. They stole 15 Shimano reels (Curado, Calcutta), several G Loomis, Shimano, and Castaway rods as well as almost every soft bait and most hard baits I own. In addition, they cut the ropes to my boat cover rendering it useless. If anyone becomes aware of fishing gear for sale that might match the description above, please inform me, Silverlake or Grapevine police. Any help would be appreciated. Like most of you, I work hard to obtain and maintain my fishing gear and these degenerates have taken it all from me. Thanks again. George Tabone

Get a rope i hate thieves

Mr. George, I hope you get everything back and that the thieves get what’s coming to them. Keel hauling comes to mind.

Sorry to hear that, but the boats weren't robbed. They were burglarized.

You are correct

This sucks to hear!! Craigslist will be watched so I would suggest checking on a few local pawn shops in the next week.

Sorry to hear it. You think they would have cameras operating all over that place.

They have cameras and got some facial views and a shot of the car but could not make out the license plate. A better question is where was the security guard that is supposed to be there?

Have they released the videos anywhere? Haven't seen anything on the news.

George, I'm sure sorry to hear about getting your stuff stolen and I hope Grapevine PD takes more of an interest in this case than some other DFW area departments do.

I realize they have more urgent things to do like tracking down murder suspects, rapists and child molestors but I sure do get tired of hearing when someone has stolen my stuff: "Look, you have to realize this doesn't work like CSI and stuff you see on TV" that's frustrating after about the 3rd time you've heard that from different departments.

They need to just make it legal to kill on sight when anyone is caught stealing your stuff like it used to be 150 years ago. Your gear has already been turned into meth for pennies on the $ and put into someone's arm, or smoked in a pipe. Once in a blue moon, this stuff has a good ending though. Any video you can get your hands on and then posted all over social media is your best shot. Most people hate thieves as much as you and I do.

You have that right in TX. Texas penal code contains a provision that grants citizens the right to use deadly force to prevent someone “who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft from escaping with the property".

Did they change the part about "during the night time"?
I get the point, but I'm talking about where the sheriff used to come out and talk to you, you tell him what happened and he says "well I guess they won't be doing that anymore"

Not the part like it is now where Grandma gets interviewed by Shaun Rabb for the nightly news report and she says "But he was such a good boy, he didn't deserve to die like that. Then the local DA decides to bring it to the grand jury, and they decide to make an example of this vigilante justice and you wind up taking a second mortgage out on your house to defend yourself in the criminal trial first and then in the civil trial after grandma and the rest of the family testify to a jury of her peers how you've deprived all his different baby momma kids from their daddy who was such a goot boy and didn't deserve to die like that. That's the part i want to see changed.

HATE to hear this I will keep my eyes open

There are a lot of other obstacles in using this as a defense. If you shoot someone fleeing the marina with your fishing tackle, even if at night, you may be exonerated but it is not going to be smooth sailing.

The weird thing is:

Sec. 9.42. DEADLY FORCE TO PROTECT PROPERTY. A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, movable property:

(1) if he would be justified in using force against the other under Section 9.41; and

(2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary:

(A) to prevent the other's imminent commission of arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime; or

(B) to prevent the other who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the property; and

(3) he reasonably believes that:

(A) the land or property cannot be protected or recovered by any other means; or

(B) the use of force other than deadly force to protect or recover the land or property would expose the actor or another to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury.



It is poorly written --- look how it seems have "nighttime" modify both "theft" and "criminal mischief" but not "burglary" --- always thought that was strange.

Yes. Exactly. I want to see all that changed up to where it's cut and dried, not ambiguous or confusing.
It'll never happen but that doesn't keep me from wishing it would. There's no way in hell I'd risk killing someone now days the way the law is currently written over stealing my stuff unless my life or the lives of others were in danger. There was a time in the long past when we didn't have to worry about that and a lot less stuff got stolen - at least not by the same repeat offenders a lot of the time.

I’ll be the first to say I hate thieves and think we should start cutting some hands off, but don’t leave it up to a security guard making 12 bucks an hour to protect your property... shouldn’t leave thousands of dollars of equipment in the boat to begin with... hope you had insurance.

I just bought a curado at a pawn shop. If you have a serial number I would be happy to check if it’s one of yours

Perry Mason is that you?

No, just a pet peeve of mine. Folks not knowing the difference between a robbery and a burglary.

The burglary would qualify as a theft. However, the statute also stipulates "justified under 9.41". If you read all of chapter 9 you will see that the justification for deadly force is pretty much limited to the threat of serious bodily injury or death. A lot of shootings that haven't been strictly legal haven't resulted in indictments; that doesn't mean they were LEGALLY justified. People are fed up with crime, and we need to overhaul the system. I listened to a woman being interviewed (on NPR, naturally) that the left wingnuts touted as being a prominent expert on the criminal justice system. She went on and on about how this country is obsessed with building more prisons, and law enforcement feels obligated to fill them up, resulting in a huge prison population that shouldn't have been incarcerated. Of course, the peanut gallery was eating it up. Yet, when that burglar, or ID thief, or counterfeiter, or crooked businessman who just destroyed several families' lives gets a ten year sentence, he's out in months because "it was a nonviolent crime and we need more room for the violent offenders" and the cycle starts all over again. Ask a cop; you keep sending the same people back to prison for the same crimes, over and over again. Sentences are a joke. And who ever started the myth that the prisons are all about reforming crooks? That's pretty naive...........

I hope you get your gear back. It disappoints me to hear this. I used to live in Grapevine and there used to be a couple of pawn shops on 26. Have you checked with them?

I was in both those shops Tuesday - nothin' but junk

Keep in mind that when pawn shops take in "merchandise," they are required to retain it for a period of time before they can put it out for sale. It used to be 30 days. Don't know if that is still the law or not. If so, checking the displayed stock of a pawn shop now may not tell you the whole story.

Good luck in getting your stuff back.

This could be slowed down with sting operations using tracking devices. Trying to get law enforcement to do it is another matter.

"Trying to get fund law enforcement to do it is another matter."

George, if you send me your address I will put some stuff in a box and send to you. I have lots of duplicate plastics and hardbaits. Might help soften the blow some.

Good luck in getting your equipment back.