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Re: Mariner vs PA12
[Re: Yak FinAddic]
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05/07/13 06:00 AM
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SleepingTiger
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I disagree with the article. Car topping is easy with a PA12 by myself.
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Re: Mariner vs PA12
[Re: Yak FinAddic]
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05/07/13 06:14 PM
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The Thorpedo
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I'd say its about right. But... mariners rule pa's drool
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Re: Mariner vs PA12
[Re: Yak FinAddic]
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05/07/13 06:22 PM
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FJCruisin
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Thanks for sharing over here. I wrote the review. I havent tried car topping my PA yet, but as I said its more manageable than my Mariner was to load and unload on my Malone trailer.
The propel drive is a bummer when something goes wrong with it, since Native wont sell parts for it. You will be forced to send it to them for repair or pay $700 for a new Propel drive. My drive failed and I lucked out getting a new one just before the warranty ran out. However, I had to do without for a month and I have some clout with ACK.
All in all, I loved my Mariner, but the PA even more. Reverse isnt needed, because the PA12 spins around in a turning radius considerably less than that of the Mariner.
To each is own, but not being able to buy replacement parts for the Propel sucks!
Last edited by FJCruisin; 05/07/13 06:26 PM.
2013 Hobie Pro Angler 12 - Dune 2012 Wilderness Systems Commander 120 - Camo 2011 KATS Supporter 2013 KATS Decker Lake Champion 
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Re: Mariner vs PA12
[Re: SleepingTiger]
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05/19/13 01:08 AM
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Bug-e
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I disagree with the article. Car topping is easy with a PA12 by myself. Hey Tiger, Do you have any photos or videos of how you do this? Those are amazing yaks, but I was leery because I want to avoid trailers (and of course I have to save a ton of money up for one). Any info would be helpful. Thanks
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Re: Mariner vs PA12
[Re: Yak FinAddic]
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05/19/13 05:04 AM
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TeamHeineken
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I car top my PA solo all the time. Piece of cake.
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Re: Mariner vs PA12
[Re: Bug-e]
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05/19/13 01:01 PM
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SleepingTiger
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I disagree with the article. Car topping is easy with a PA12 by myself. Hey Tiger, Do you have any photos or videos of how you do this? Those are amazing yaks, but I was leery because I want to avoid trailers (and of course I have to save a ton of money up for one). Any info would be helpful. Thanks Just search YouTube "loading pro angler with boat loader"
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Re: Mariner vs PA12
[Re: Bug-e]
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05/19/13 06:02 PM
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YakFishField
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I disagree with the article. Car topping is easy with a PA12 by myself. Hey Tiger, Do you have any photos or videos of how you do this? Those are amazing yaks, but I was leery because I want to avoid trailers (and of course I have to save a ton of money up for one). Any info would be helpful. Thanks Maybe I'll do a video of putting it on my Jeep on Thursday...  I had this same concern and didn't know car topping the PA 12 was even an option until TeamHeineken and Sleeping Tiger told me otherwise. I think it will be my next boat now that I know I don't have to get a trailer also.
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Re: Mariner vs PA12
[Re: Yak FinAddic]
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05/19/13 07:09 PM
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Bug-e
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That's amazingly easy. I took tiger's advice and found great demos of car topping a pa on suv's, etc. I'm shocked. I assumed it would be like putting a tank on top of the car, but when I think about it car topping a 15 or 16 foot sink is probably more awkward.
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Re: Mariner vs PA12
[Re: YakFishField]
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05/19/13 07:12 PM
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Bug-e
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I disagree with the article. Car topping is easy with a PA12 by myself. Hey Tiger, Do you have any photos or videos of how you do this? Those are amazing yaks, but I was leery because I want to avoid trailers (and of course I have to save a ton of money up for one). Any info would be helpful. Thanks Maybe I'll do a video of putting it on my Jeep on Thursday...  I had this same concern and didn't know car topping the PA 12 was even an option until TeamHeineken and Sleeping Tiger told me otherwise. I think it will be my next boat now that I know I don't have to get a trailer also. Are you getting one Thursday? If I was getting a PA on Thursday, then I wouldn't be able to sleep all week. 
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Re: Mariner vs PA12
[Re: Bug-e]
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05/20/13 04:47 AM
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SleepingTiger
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That's amazingly easy. I took tiger's advice and found great demos of car topping a pa on suv's, etc. I'm shocked. I assumed it would be like putting a tank on top of the car, but when I think about it car topping a 15 or 16 foot sink is probably more awkward. I used to own a hobie outback. Car topping an outback was actually harder. The outback wants to slide off the boat loader bar and tends to be less stable. Where as the PA with the flat bottom and the rear has two points where it come in contact with the ground is far more stable and will not slide off the bar. Also because the PA has a flat bottom, I no longer need my mako saddles and Holley rollers so I sold them. Another positive on the PA is that it has a very good front and rear handle, lifting it is a cinch. The outback doesn't have a handle, but a knob with a string. On the rear, the rudder is in the way of the knob and string. Lifting the outback was a pain.
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