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Re: Nitro boats [Re: Fat Boy Fishing] #7331250 03/25/12 04:04 AM
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Want me to solve the debate? You're all stupid for buying bass boats in the first place.


Re: Nitro boats [Re: _86_] #7331473 03/25/12 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted By: _86_
Want me to solve the debate? You're all stupid for buying bass boats in the first place.


Agreed



Re: Nitro boats [Re: Gary Pender] #7331877 03/25/12 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted By: Gary Pender
Ranger quality, what do you get for the $. $700.00 in parts just to get it to run. The parts to get it to run were just the key pad. Pay more up front and pay more to keep it running. GO FIGURE.

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2007Ranger z22, hyper expensive boat, low time , well cared for, $700.00 in parts for the dash touch pad just to get it to run.Please.Where is the dealer support? Sort of changes the saying you get what you pay for.








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That's one thing I would avoid like the plaque, a boat with any kind of touch screen/touch operable electronics. I have worked around a lot of equipment in my career that uses this technology. No matter how much the mfg's. claim these switches and panels are water proof if you expose them to moisture in any form or fashion regularly eventually they will fail. You can improve your odds by storing your rig indoors and when you are cleaning avoid getting water anywhere near these panels and never; I mean never, high pressure wash one of these panels or any kind of marine electronics...Believe me my wallet knows this to be true.....



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Re: Nitro boats [Re: Fat Boy Fishing] #7337708 03/26/12 09:30 PM
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I agree. Ranger indicated that when replacing the touch pad the module should be replaced also due to a running manufacture change. The module potentialy is not compatable. Customers boat is ready and running great but between the parts a a couple of hours labor he took a hit.




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Re: Nitro boats [Re: Gary Pender] #7339660 03/27/12 04:40 AM
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Is this thread about the best dealer service after the sale or about the best quality built boat? Warrenty service is surely important. The same manufactured boat bought at different dealers will surely give us different feedback.Do your homework. That being said about service if you can have a top of the line Nitro ,top of line Skeeter or top of the line Ranger for free ( that's right for free and be honest with yourself) which boat would you take. Dollars are not in the equation.


Re: Nitro boats [Re: Igot1] #7340405 03/27/12 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted By: Igot1
Is this thread about the best dealer service after the sale or about the best quality built boat? Warrenty service is surely important. The same manufactured boat bought at different dealers will surely give us different feedback.Do your homework. That being said about service if you can have a top of the line Nitro ,top of line Skeeter or top of the line Ranger for free ( that's right for free and be honest with yourself) which boat would you take. Dollars are not in the equation.


Well isn't that convenient, Certainly when the whole debate is based on quality vs the "Dollars" paid for it. And since I don't forsee ever being offered one of these boats for free. I'll have to stick to the reality of, "is it worth 20K more for a comparable Ranger??? "


Re: Nitro boats [Re: Fat Boy Fishing] #7343594 03/28/12 01:28 AM
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Good point, and I think the ansewer is clear. The present value of $20K is huge. For instance, If $20K were put in a Vanguard investment 10 years ago ,a ...REIT for example it would be worth nearly $48k today. Check it out and keep your money working for you.




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Re: Nitro boats [Re: Fat Boy Fishing] #7343608 03/28/12 01:31 AM
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Good point, and I think the ansewer is clear. The present value of $20K is huge. For instance, If $20K were put in a Vanguard investment 10 years ago ,a ...REIT for example it would be worth nearly $48k today. Check it out and keep your money working for you.




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Re: Nitro boats [Re: Gary Pender] #7343943 03/28/12 02:35 AM
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Where did $20K difference come from. Is that set in stone somewhere? It seems we are using that number freely to determine difference between all purchases of Nitro and Skeeter or Ranger.


Re: Nitro boats [Re: Fat Boy Fishing] #7344175 03/28/12 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted By: Gary Pender
Good point, and I think the ansewer is clear. The present value of $20K is huge. For instance, If $20K were put in a Vanguard investment 10 years ago ,a ...REIT for example it would be worth nearly $48k today. Check it out and keep your money working for you.
You know what else is huge? The value of a Ranger boat compared to a Nitro.

A Vanguard investment? Is that seriously the route we've gone to justify a Nitro? The current value of money? If you'd put $20k in Apple 10 years ago, you'd have roughly $1.1M right now. But nobody did because nobody can see the future. If you'd bought stock in Enron 10 years ago, you'd have nothing right now.

I started working in the real world 5 years ago, and my 401k is worth less than the sum total of what I've put in it, mostly because of my inability to see the future. So I guess I'd have been better off buying a Ranger?

I've tried to play nice on this thread, mostly because I honestly have nothing against Nitro boats. I really think the new ones are probably built pretty well. But the more bad arguments and continual advertising and brand-bashing that Gary puts out there, the more ridiculous this gets. Trying to make the "current value of money" argument in the worst economy since the great depression? Come on...



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Re: Nitro boats [Re: patriot07] #7344437 03/28/12 04:53 AM
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Has to try something to try and make nitro's look better. grin


Re: Nitro boats [Re: rxkid2001] #7344545 03/28/12 07:47 AM
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Gary, you work for tracker and praise the greatness of Nitro & how they are far superior to other boats.

DO YOU EVEN OWN A NITRO?


Re: Nitro boats [Re: Fat Boy Fishing] #7344726 03/28/12 11:32 AM
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you are pretty funny. Must be nice to toss money away like it has no value. If the $20k were put in a Vangurd REIT Admiral investors shares account in 2002 it would be now worth $55k now, in spite of a poor market for the last 4 years. This could by a new z9. Go figure.




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Re: Nitro boats [Re: Fat Boy Fishing] #7345363 03/28/12 02:39 PM
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All I can say is, I had a 01 Nitro 896 with a 200HP Merc. Decent boat, but it didn't hold up and the service was terrible when I had problems.

I paid about the same for the Ranger in my sig in 2006. It's been a fantastic boat.

I do truly believe the newer Nitros are much better than Nitros past, mainly because they are in the spotlight now. However, once you add all the stuff you can get on Ranger/Skeeter, the "value" of a Nitro disappears from those "super prices". Heck, the trailer on the smallest Rangers has road armour coating, aluminum rims, and fiberglass fenders. The Nitro is not. The Ranger boat is just finished better to me.


Re: Nitro boats [Re: Fat Boy Fishing] #7605277 06/04/12 04:08 PM
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Wanted to update on my boat. First off, I want to thank Gary, and his GM Jim DeGroat for all of their help with my issues. Without them, I feel like nothing would have been done. I brought my boat over to Austin to have them look at it. Keep in mind that I did not buy my boat from them, but they made me feel like a customer who had bought 10 boats from them. As relentless as Gary is about promoting the Nitro/Tracker brand, he is 10 times as adamant about customer service, and I am very grateful for his help and attentiveness to my boat problems.

As for my boat, the factory had Gary refer me back to a local dealer to have my boat sent back to the factory. I left the boat with the local dealer on April 18th. I heard back from the dealer on May 17th that he had gotten an email from the factory saying that my boat would be ready to ship back in 2 weeks. The dealer was unsure if the boat was being repaired or replaced, and couldn't provide any details of what was being done. I don't want to comment much on my local dealer, or the customer service level from the factory unitl I get my boat back. I will update when I get my boat back.


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