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What would TPWD call this setup? #7432992 04/19/12 05:52 PM
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A 6' piece of 3/8" rebar stabbed into the bank with a line attached. A jug is attached to the line (used as a cork) with a couple hooks at the end of the line. Is this a throwline, dropline, jugline or pole and line? The line is not attended. We use this setup and I don't know what to call it or what would a game warden call it.

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Re: What would TPWD call this setup? [Re: FishinRod] #7433068 04/19/12 06:05 PM
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Based on some responses yesterday on a similar topic, I believe that would be classified as a throwline, as the jug is not free floating when its anchored to the rebar.




Re: What would TPWD call this setup? [Re: Caribou] #7434084 04/19/12 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted By: Caribou
Based on some responses yesterday on a similar topic, I believe that would be classified as a throwline, as the jug is not free floating when its anchored to the rebar.
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Re: What would TPWD call this setup? [Re: FishinRod] #7434451 04/19/12 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted By: FishinRod
We use this setup and I don't know what to call it or what would a game warden call it.

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How about calling a game warden? If you're doing something wrong they can tell you. If you don't and get caught doing something wrong the GW is'nt going to buy a story of "I was told on this forum....."


Re: What would TPWD call this setup? [Re: FishinRod] #7434615 04/19/12 11:38 PM
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I think they would classify it as dangerious. The metal rebar can really do damage to people and boats.



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Re: What would TPWD call this setup? [Re: ChuChu1] #7434701 04/20/12 12:03 AM
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+1

If you or someone else were to (God forbid) fall on it, a piece of rebar will have no problem impaling you. It may seem blunt but with a little force (your body weight) applied it doesn't really matter.

If I were you, I would fix something to the top end of it, to make it a little safer. The first thing that comes to mind is maybe a tennis ball filled with insulation foam. Like the kind you can buy in a aerosol can at hardware stores.

As to your original question I would agree with the post that said to call the GW and ask: 1) If it is even legal (im sure it is) and 2) How they wold classify it.

Personally I would look at it as a throw line, as it is being left unattended, but that is only my guess.


Re: What would TPWD call this setup? [Re: FishinRod] #7435124 04/20/12 01:32 AM
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its a throwline. Doesnt matter if the jug is tied to a limb, stake, or your foot.


Re: What would TPWD call this setup? [Re: FishinRod] #7435182 04/20/12 01:44 AM
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As to the tennis ball they make a plastic round cap that fits on top off the rebar its like a mushroom in shape and the size of a tennis ball. I think that Home depot might have them.

This is an example


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Re: What would TPWD call this setup? [Re: FishinRod] #7435332 04/20/12 02:07 AM
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Like Deerstrangler said, to be absolutely positive about it, ask a Game Warden for his official ruling. I used to always chat with Game Wardens on the Trinity River & get caught up on the latest dos & don'ts. If I was about to set up some new rigging style, I would drop by the Game Warden office, describe everything, then they would give me feedback, as well as any extra comments.

It is a throwline, therefore it is not a trotline ruling out metal stakes (for use with trotlines).

However, for safety sake, you probably do need to protect people from it.



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Re: What would TPWD call this setup? [Re: FishinRod] #7435445 04/20/12 02:29 AM
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I do not know for certain, but I think it may be illegal. However, you may use green tree limbs, and things like that. I'm sure the rig is a throw line, but the anchoring device is questionable.



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Re: What would TPWD call this setup? [Re: trooper0711] #7435452 04/20/12 02:31 AM
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If any steel rebar of any size is not held in concrete and is located anywhere within the full pool area of a public reservoir, we consider it trash and relocate it to the nearest public trash can. Please use a broomstick, old surfrod, 'bout anything but rebar. It causes needless injuries and bad boat damage.






Re: What would TPWD call this setup? [Re: FishinRod] #7435499 04/20/12 02:41 AM
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Trooper. Cmon man. That's disturbing. I think we were all able to visualize it our heads, at our own level of comfort without a picture.




Re: What would TPWD call this setup? [Re: FishinRod] #7435536 04/20/12 02:50 AM
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Yeah that was nasty, but I googled much worse. Anyway It's deleted.




Re: What would TPWD call this setup? [Re: trooper0711] #7436686 04/20/12 01:31 PM
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Thanks for the feedback. Don't worry, the only place my grandfather has used for his entire life is on a river in no mans land. This place is only accessible by jon boat or kayak. I've never seen anyone on this part of the river with the exception of law enforcement looking for drowning victims from way upstream. They even had a body in the boat one time passing by us when we were checking our lines. I didn't ask for a safety lecture nor I'm a numb nut to put something like this a public area. Just wanted to know what it would be classified. Never met or talked to a game warden in my life, fortunate or unfortunate. Thought their might be one on here to give me a clear answer. Trying to understand the difference between this setup (which the consensus on here is it a throwline) and putting your rod-n-reel (pole and line) in a rod holder that is shoved in the dirt and walking off. This is why I am confused because the definition of a pole and line in the outdoor annual is "A line with hook, attached to a pole". Most of our lines only have only one hook some have two if that makes a difference.

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Sorry you took it as a safety lecture, it was meant as a common sense reminder. Even though you are fishing a remote section of river. it is public water. You say you only see a few jon boats and kayaks, that means there is a chance something could go wrong.

As far as the answer to your question, it would be a "limb line", which is classified as a throw line as long as it has less than five hooks.



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