Forums59
Topics1,047,899
Posts14,114,261
Members144,394
|
Most Online39,925 Dec 30th, 2023
|
|
Re: Has Social Media ruined fishing?
[Re: over the hill @PK]
#15204935
09/30/24 07:01 PM
|
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 3,043
Txduckhunter
TFF Team Angler
|
TFF Team Angler
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 3,043 |
Pros making it look so easy on TV are a big part of the problem. whe the TV goes from one to another making people think they are just catching fish with reckless abandon they think anyone can do it .I guess I am old enough to remember when it was dads and Grandpa's who taught the fishing to their kids but now we have Hi schools and colleges along with pros and us parents teaching our kids to fish which is making the boats and tackle go higher and higher just about putting a lot of fishermen on the bank or sitting on their butts at home. I am sorry but putting 200 + boats on any lake is just to dang many and should be broken up to give some relief to our lakes and the people who are regulars and home owners on any given lake "regulars and homeowners" should have bought or leased a private lake. My family has land that Fork took, still own the land up to it, and I've had a lake house on Fork since before it was full. It never crossed my mind to be so self entitled as to tell someone I should have it to myself.
|
|
Re: Has Social Media ruined fishing?
[Re: RCarter]
#15204965
09/30/24 07:33 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 1,384
GeoFisher
Extreme Angler
|
Extreme Angler
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 1,384 |
All this talk about where the $$ is going? Pro's vs You Tubers? Marketing and such? Did anyone ever think that the old model was broken to begin with or at the least, inefficient at best? For 40-50 years, it was "let's put our money into the pro's" because they are the ones who will sell our products. Granted, that worked for a very long time and was "successful" because it was the only medium they had. For years, the Pro's had a leg up with sponsors and life was good for them, Simple supply and demand, the supply of pro's were low and for the most part, they could name their price. Supply low, price high.
Fast forward to now. Companies have the upper hand!! You own ABC Tackle and you want to get your brand out there. How are you gonna do it? Are you gonna tell me you are gonna give "Joe Pro Smuckatelly" 50K a year to push your brand? Im not. I will take 1/2 that amount of money and spread it out amongst 10-15 You tubers and get infinitely more exposure. Supply is now high with people who will push your product. Supply goes up, price goes down.
Social Media hasnt ruined Bass Fishing. It's only made life a lot harder for those of us who remember the "Good ole days". For the younger folks, it's all they know and the world they grew up in, hence the "ho-hum" attitude that most of them have.
It's Darwinism in Business/Economics......Evolve or die. And remember, youth is undefeated.
Everything on your bass boat is broken......You just don't know it yet.
|
|
Re: Has Social Media ruined fishing?
[Re: GeoFisher]
#15204981
09/30/24 08:03 PM
|
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 99
vdavid
Outdoorsman
|
Outdoorsman
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 99 |
All this talk about where the $$ is going? Pro's vs You Tubers? Marketing and such? Did anyone ever think that the old model was broken to begin with or at the least, inefficient at best? For 40-50 years, it was "let's put our money into the pro's" because they are the ones who will sell our products. Granted, that worked for a very long time and was "successful" because it was the only medium they had. For years, the Pro's had a leg up with sponsors and life was good for them, Simple supply and demand, the supply of pro's were low and for the most part, they could name their price. Supply low, price high.
Fast forward to now. Companies have the upper hand!! You own ABC Tackle and you want to get your brand out there. How are you gonna do it? Are you gonna tell me you are gonna give "Joe Pro Smuckatelly" 50K a year to push your brand? Im not. I will take 1/2 that amount of money and spread it out amongst 10-15 You tubers and get infinitely more exposure. Supply is now high with people who will push your product. Supply goes up, price goes down.
Social Media hasnt ruined Bass Fishing. It's only made life a lot harder for those of us who remember the "Good ole days". For the younger folks, it's all they know and the world they grew up in, hence the "ho-hum" attitude that most of them have.
It's Darwinism in Business/Economics......Evolve or die. And remember, youth is undefeated. No way. Change can only be bad. If I'm less successful than I once was it can only mean the circumstances are wrong for everyone. /s
|
|
Re: Has Social Media ruined fishing?
[Re: grandbassslayer]
#15205018
09/30/24 08:53 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,625
Quillback
Extreme Angler
|
Extreme Angler
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,625 |
Could it just be that we have more people but not a bunch of new lakes? That is the problem - too many people chasing bass (including me).
|
|
Re: Has Social Media ruined fishing?
[Re: RCarter]
#15205996
10/01/24 08:49 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 2,791
petro
Extreme Angler
|
Extreme Angler
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 2,791 |
Its ruined everything. Internet has too.
|
|
Re: Has Social Media ruined fishing?
[Re: RCarter]
#15206008
10/01/24 09:06 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 242
SAdoc
Outdoorsman
|
Outdoorsman
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 242 |
Some would say that bass tournaments have ruined fishing…..
|
|
Re: Has Social Media ruined fishing?
[Re: SAdoc]
#15206112
10/01/24 10:13 PM
|
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 13,462
tmd11111
TFF Guru
|
TFF Guru
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 13,462 |
Some would say that bass tournaments have ruined fishing….. Been hearing that sad song for about 40 years now.
|
|
Re: Has Social Media ruined fishing?
[Re: vdavid]
#15206249
10/02/24 01:01 AM
|
Joined: Oct 2019
Posts: 593
Cuervo Jones
Pro Angler
|
Pro Angler
Joined: Oct 2019
Posts: 593 |
All this talk about where the $$ is going? Pro's vs You Tubers? Marketing and such? Did anyone ever think that the old model was broken to begin with or at the least, inefficient at best? For 40-50 years, it was "let's put our money into the pro's" because they are the ones who will sell our products. Granted, that worked for a very long time and was "successful" because it was the only medium they had. For years, the Pro's had a leg up with sponsors and life was good for them, Simple supply and demand, the supply of pro's were low and for the most part, they could name their price. Supply low, price high.
Fast forward to now. Companies have the upper hand!! You own ABC Tackle and you want to get your brand out there. How are you gonna do it? Are you gonna tell me you are gonna give "Joe Pro Smuckatelly" 50K a year to push your brand? Im not. I will take 1/2 that amount of money and spread it out amongst 10-15 You tubers and get infinitely more exposure. Supply is now high with people who will push your product. Supply goes up, price goes down.
Social Media hasnt ruined Bass Fishing. It's only made life a lot harder for those of us who remember the "Good ole days". For the younger folks, it's all they know and the world they grew up in, hence the "ho-hum" attitude that most of them have.
It's Darwinism in Business/Economics......Evolve or die. And remember, youth is undefeated. No way. Change can only be bad. If I'm less successful than I once was it can only mean the circumstances are wrong for everyone. /s Haha! Exactly!! Times change, society changes, and those who don’t adapt along with it get left behind. It’s the natural way of things.
“Slide”
|
|
Re: Has Social Media ruined fishing?
[Re: SAdoc]
#15206270
10/02/24 01:32 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 73,398
Mark Perry
Super Freak
|
Super Freak
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 73,398 |
Some would say that bass tournaments have ruined fishing….. Looking back on my own experiences I think i have witnessed poor etiquette a lot more from recreational anglers than tournament anglers. Some of that I write off as them just knowing any better. I have had very, very few issues from others during tournaments. Eve then most of that is minor stuff. The most common is guys crowding the loading dock and ramp when other boats are trying to launch. . I don't understand what is hard about launching then getting out of the way while your partner parks the truck. Someone always wants to Power Pole down parallel to the dock making it impossible to pick up your partner or at the end of the ramp where others want back off trailer without almost hitting them as they tinker with tackle etc.
|
|
Re: Has Social Media ruined fishing?
[Re: RCarter]
#15206287
10/02/24 01:47 AM
|
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 17,002
grout-scout
TFF Guru
|
TFF Guru
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 17,002 |
Just checking, did Mark Jones ever clarify his comment?
|
|
Re: Has Social Media ruined fishing?
[Re: grout-scout]
#15206288
10/02/24 01:48 AM
|
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 42,519
WAWI
TFF Guru
|
TFF Guru
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 42,519 |
Just checking, did Mark Jones ever clarify his comment? No, it was a hit and run
|
|
Re: Has Social Media ruined fishing?
[Re: GeoFisher]
#15206505
10/02/24 11:49 AM
|
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 487
P_102
Angler
|
Angler
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 487 |
All this talk about where the $$ is going? Pro's vs You Tubers? Marketing and such? Did anyone ever think that the old model was broken to begin with or at the least, inefficient at best? For 40-50 years, it was "let's put our money into the pro's" because they are the ones who will sell our products. Granted, that worked for a very long time and was "successful" because it was the only medium they had. For years, the Pro's had a leg up with sponsors and life was good for them, Simple supply and demand, the supply of pro's were low and for the most part, they could name their price. Supply low, price high.
Fast forward to now. Companies have the upper hand!! You own ABC Tackle and you want to get your brand out there. How are you gonna do it? Are you gonna tell me you are gonna give "Joe Pro Smuckatelly" 50K a year to push your brand? Im not. I will take 1/2 that amount of money and spread it out amongst 10-15 You tubers and get infinitely more exposure. Supply is now high with people who will push your product. Supply goes up, price goes down.
Social Media hasnt ruined Bass Fishing. It's only made life a lot harder for those of us who remember the "Good ole days". For the younger folks, it's all they know and the world they grew up in, hence the "ho-hum" attitude that most of them have.
It's Darwinism in Business/Economics......Evolve or die. And remember, youth is undefeated. This is, for the most part, true but it doesn’t paint the whole picture. Yes, sponsors are paying much less, (based on what I’ve read), but there are also a lot more potential sponsors in the market. What is 100% true is that the game has changed and so must the professional if he/she wishes to survive in this market.
|
|
Re: Has Social Media ruined fishing?
[Re: RCarter]
#15206808
10/02/24 05:21 PM
|
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 417
over the hill @PK
Angler
|
Angler
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 417 |
one thing is sure the dang price of anything fishing is way over the top of what it should be.Paying $25 gees for a motor which if you use it much will blow up is [censored] so many fall into just make payments and trade it in in 2 years . Let someone else take it and blow it up leaving them to spend thousands on the thing . For that kind of $ a motor should last a very long time and should be covered for a very long time
Butch Farmer
|
|
Re: Has Social Media ruined fishing?
[Re: over the hill @PK]
#15206859
10/02/24 06:21 PM
|
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 3,043
Txduckhunter
TFF Team Angler
|
TFF Team Angler
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 3,043 |
one thing is sure the dang price of anything fishing is way over the top of what it should be.Paying $25 gees for a motor which if you use it much will blow up is [censored] so many fall into just make payments and trade it in in 2 years . Let someone else take it and blow it up leaving them to spend thousands on the thing . For that kind of $ a motor should last a very long time and should be covered for a very long time Almost 800 hours on my 2015 SHO. Other than routine maintenance, it has not needed a thing. While you seem to really be hung up on the past........ it is well known, for a long time now, that outboards don't need a reason to pop, just a place. A lot of the new ones have good records.
|
|
Re: Has Social Media ruined fishing?
[Re: RCarter]
#15206960
10/02/24 08:27 PM
|
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 1,889
dk2429
Extreme Angler
|
Extreme Angler
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 1,889 |
I use social media quite a bit, it’s almost required to promote your business these days. I don’t think it’s a bad thing at all. With that said, it’s definitely taken its toll on fishing, especially the big YouTubers. All the ponds around here where I live used to be an easy after work/after school fishing trip. Used to be able to go to any of them, drop a flat bottom in, and catch nice fish often. Now they’ve all gone to [censored] and I don’t even bother
It’s really a double edged sword. I love seeing the younger middle school/high school kids out fishing these ponds after school and enjoying the outdoors, but it’s also taken a big toll on what was once good fishing.
Last edited by dk2429; 10/02/24 08:27 PM.
Majek 22 Extreme/225 Optimax Pro XS hauled by a 2500HD Duramax
|
|
Moderated by banker-always fishing, chickenman, Derek 🐝, Duck_Hunter, Fish Killer, J-2, Jacob, Jons3825, JustWingem, Nocona Brian, Toon-Troller, Uncle Zeek, Weekender1
|