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Re: Vehicle price surprise [Re: Douglas J] #15007660 03/05/24 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Douglas J
se buy a new max sized suv every few years, loaded out all the latest and greatest


For basically the same vehicle as the 2020 that we have now, the 2024 is $90K or so eeks

The price has increased substantially in 4 years.

If you voted for Ole Burden, thanks!

But but but we were told on this very forum that prices would decline…..

Re: Vehicle price surprise [Re: T Bird] #15007661 03/05/24 03:04 AM
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crazy crazy crazy

Glad you found a great deal on a better ride Coach.




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Re: Vehicle price surprise [Re: Coach Hark] #15007705 03/05/24 03:55 AM
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Lexus is a fine vehicle that will hold up for a long time with only minimal repairs, usually just maintenance, good choice!


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Re: Vehicle price surprise [Re: Ghost4BH] #15007751 03/05/24 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Ghost4BH
Originally Posted by Douglas J
se buy a new max sized suv every few years, loaded out all the latest and greatest


For basically the same vehicle as the 2020 that we have now, the 2024 is $90K or so eeks

The price has increased substantially in 4 years.

If you voted for Ole Burden, thanks!

But but but we were told on this very forum that prices would decline…..

If you're paying the same in 2024 for vehicles as folks were paying in 2022, it's on you. Deals are everywhere. I just googled "Ford explorer promotions" and this link to Bob Tomes Ford in McKinney came up with them offering $2k off MSRP. They were $5k over MSRP 12-24 months ago. Give it another 6-12 months and let's see if the discounts grow even more. Or just keep pretending that economics and math aren't real.

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Re: Vehicle price surprise [Re: hopalong] #15007773 03/05/24 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by hopalong
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The fact that the Ford Explorer didn`t hold its value anymore that that would make me never buy another Ford product. Even with that many miles is ridiculous. Thats why I driven Hondas since 1996.


if you ever need a pickup you would do good to buy ford.

have owned all 3 domestic brands (sorry rice burners) and gm sucks for lying, dodge has the/discount performance, ford now has longevity and performance.

show me the specs. actual performance of the 5.7 gm, 5.7 (or whatever it is) hemi to the 5.0 coyote (closest ford has).

some models may suck but overall, ford rules right now. imo

Our PD had bought at various times Dodge (Chargers and pickups), Ford (Explorers and F150s), and Chevrolet (Tahoes and pickups). Dodge was the least reliable by a long shot. Ford not far behind. We had way less trouble, and better performance, from Chevrolet. The F150 they issued me was not safe to drive in a pursuit or an emergency run. The brakes and handling were by far the worst I ever experienced. One of the other detectives' F150 never ran right, and the Ford dealership kept insisting that everything checked out good. The Chief finally sent it to an independent mechanic. He said the computer was bad. Sure enough, replacing it cured the long-term problem. No more Fords for the PD. Costs too much to keep 'em on the road.

Re: Vehicle price surprise [Re: Jim Ford] #15007776 03/05/24 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim Ford
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Originally Posted by TPACK
The fact that the Ford Explorer didn`t hold its value anymore that that would make me never buy another Ford product. Even with that many miles is ridiculous. Thats why I driven Hondas since 1996.


if you ever need a pickup you would do good to buy ford.

have owned all 3 domestic brands (sorry rice burners) and gm sucks for lying, dodge has the/discount performance, ford now has longevity and performance.

show me the specs. actual performance of the 5.7 gm, 5.7 (or whatever it is) hemi to the 5.0 coyote (closest ford has).

some models may suck but overall, ford rules right now. imo

Our PD had bought at various times Dodge (Chargers and pickups), Ford (Explorers and F150s), and Chevrolet (Tahoes and pickups). Dodge was the least reliable by a long shot. Ford not far behind. We had way less trouble, and better performance, from Chevrolet. The F150 they issued me was not safe to drive in a pursuit or an emergency run. The brakes and handling were by far the worst I ever experienced. One of the other detectives' F150 never ran right, and the Ford dealership kept insisting that everything checked out good. The Chief finally sent it to an independent mechanic. He said the computer was bad. Sure enough, replacing it cured the long-term problem. No more Fords for the PD. Costs too much to keep 'em on the road.

curious what years those were? I didn't care for the pre-2005 f150s and chevy's were much better back then. It's kind of switched around now


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Re: Vehicle price surprise [Re: Coach Hark] #15007789 03/05/24 05:40 AM
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The Dodges were like fifteen years ago. The Fords were four or five years ago.

Re: Vehicle price surprise [Re: Ghost4BH] #15007830 03/05/24 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Ghost4BH
Originally Posted by hopalong
Originally Posted by TPACK
The fact that the Ford Explorer didn`t hold its value anymore that that would make me never buy another Ford product. Even with that many miles is ridiculous. Thats why I driven Hondas since 1996.


if you ever need a pickup you would do good to buy ford.

have owned all 3 domestic brands (sorry rice burners) and gm sucks for lying, dodge has the/discount performance, ford now has longevity and performance.

show me the specs. actual performance of the 5.7 gm, 5.7 (or whatever it is) hemi to the 5.0 coyote (closest ford has).

some models may suck but overall, ford rules right now. imo

Ford and longevity roflmao

Those two words should never be used in the same sentence.



Kind of like Toyota and innovation.

Re: Vehicle price surprise [Re: patriot07] #15007886 03/05/24 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by patriot07
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Originally Posted by Douglas J
se buy a new max sized suv every few years, loaded out all the latest and greatest


For basically the same vehicle as the 2020 that we have now, the 2024 is $90K or so eeks

The price has increased substantially in 4 years.

If you voted for Ole Burden, thanks!

But but but we were told on this very forum that prices would decline…..

If you're paying the same in 2024 for vehicles as folks were paying in 2022, it's on you. Deals are everywhere. I just googled "Ford explorer promotions" and this link to Bob Tomes Ford in McKinney came up with them offering $2k off MSRP. They were $5k over MSRP 12-24 months ago. Give it another 6-12 months and let's see if the discounts grow even more. Or just keep pretending that economics and math aren't real.

link

I guess you’re just going to pretend that MSRP on vehicles hasn’t risen the last few years either. Tell us more johnclaytriot07

Re: Vehicle price surprise [Re: Samsonsworld] #15007889 03/05/24 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Samsonsworld
Originally Posted by Ghost4BH
Originally Posted by hopalong
Originally Posted by TPACK
The fact that the Ford Explorer didn`t hold its value anymore that that would make me never buy another Ford product. Even with that many miles is ridiculous. Thats why I driven Hondas since 1996.


if you ever need a pickup you would do good to buy ford.

have owned all 3 domestic brands (sorry rice burners) and gm sucks for lying, dodge has the/discount performance, ford now has longevity and performance.

show me the specs. actual performance of the 5.7 gm, 5.7 (or whatever it is) hemi to the 5.0 coyote (closest ford has).

some models may suck but overall, ford rules right now. imo

Ford and longevity roflmao

Those two words should never be used in the same sentence.



Kind of like Toyota and innovation.


roflmao cheers


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Re: Vehicle price surprise [Re: Coach Hark] #15008210 03/05/24 06:01 PM
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I asked the young salesman why Lexus wouldn’t make trucks and he said, “oh we do, they’re called Tundra’s”😁 And thanks fellas.

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Re: Vehicle price surprise [Re: Coach Hark] #15008286 03/05/24 07:06 PM
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I bought a used Lexus three months ago.. only 30,000 miles that was a leased vehicle.. my az likes the smoothness of the ride.. it has 40,000 miles now.


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Re: Vehicle price surprise [Re: Coach Hark] #15008297 03/05/24 07:20 PM
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Just out of curiosity I found and watched a short video of what it takes to get to the the water pump. Lots of stuff has to come off.
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