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New reels and plastic parts replacing steel! #14587170 01/05/23 11:39 PM
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First off HAPPY NEW YEAR!

A lot of you know me and have used my reel cleaning services. Appreciate all the customers who have used me in my fIrst year. Its been fun and exciting to get to know you, share some fishing stories, and do business with you.
Thank you!

This post is about some things I am seeing in newer reels that just shock me.
Today I was servicing a reel and removed the line guide pawl and noticed it was made of plastic. Never seen one that was plastic. Also found the main shaft end bearing to be completely plastic on a reel I did awhile back.
Sad to see the lack of quality going aside for the greed of maintaining a bottom line.
I fear it will only get worse!

Anyone noticed any quality issues on newer well respected reel manufacturers?

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Re: New reels and plastic parts replacing steel! [Re: NTX Angler] #14587240 01/06/23 12:49 AM
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Care to mention the brand and model of the one with plastic pawl and one with plastic bearing? My reel guy said to stay away from Quantum, he didn't like their quality.

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I will throw in 13 fishing having junk gears…. Have to sent it back to them to repair and the gears are expensive. quantum Reels have junk inside of them… when it breaks you can’t replace it because they don’t make replacement parts, but great news they will give you 15% off another reel with the same issues lol

Re: New reels and plastic parts replacing steel! [Re: NTX Angler] #14587308 01/06/23 01:40 AM
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Lol Im afraid to say but I guess you need to know.

Shimano Chronarch!

I can't remember on the plastic gear. It was a shocker to me but at least it won't rust lol.

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Re: New reels and plastic parts replacing steel! [Re: NTX Angler] #14587337 01/06/23 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by NTX Angler
First off HAPPY NEW YEAR!

A lot of you know me and have used my reel cleaning services. Appreciate all the customers who have used me in my fIrst year. Its been fun and exciting to get to know you, share some fishing stories, and do business with you.
Thank you!

This post is about some things I am seeing in newer reels that just shock me.
Today I was servicing a reel and removed the line guide pawl and noticed it was made of plastic. Never seen one that was plastic. Also found the main shaft end bearing to be completely plastic on a reel I did awhile back.
Sad to see the lack of quality going aside for the greed of maintaining a bottom line.
I fear it will only get worse!

Anyone noticed any quality issues on newer well respected reel manufacturers?


yep.. on shimano stradic drags.. not smooth at all, bought a second one just to see if I had a bad one and it was just as bad.. haven't noticed the parts as they were both brand new...


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Re: New reels and plastic parts replacing steel! [Re: lconn4] #14587398 01/06/23 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by lconn4
Originally Posted by NTX Angler
First off HAPPY NEW YEAR!

A lot of you know me and have used my reel cleaning services. Appreciate all the customers who have used me in my fIrst year. Its been fun and exciting to get to know you, share some fishing stories, and do business with you.
Thank you!

This post is about some things I am seeing in newer reels that just shock me.
Today I was servicing a reel and removed the line guide pawl and noticed it was made of plastic. Never seen one that was plastic. Also found the main shaft end bearing to be completely plastic on a reel I did awhile back.
Sad to see the lack of quality going aside for the greed of maintaining a bottom line.
I fear it will only get worse!

Anyone noticed any quality issues on newer well respected reel manufacturers?


yep.. on shimano stradic drags.. not smooth at all, bought a second one just to see if I had a bad one and it was just as bad.. haven't noticed the parts as they were both brand new...


I don't know what they are using on the new ones. Shimano drags are not the best for sure however if you upgrade to carbon fiber it makes a huge difference. I would say most bass fisherman just crank it all the way down and don't look back. Most I see are stuck and have never been slipped. I try to make sure my Shimanos are slipped frequent as I use braid and do use the drag. So far never had one that was all that bad.

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Re: New reels and plastic parts replacing steel! [Re: NTX Angler] #14587432 01/06/23 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by NTX Angler
Originally Posted by lconn4
Originally Posted by NTX Angler
First off HAPPY NEW YEAR!

A lot of you know me and have used my reel cleaning services. Appreciate all the customers who have used me in my fIrst year. Its been fun and exciting to get to know you, share some fishing stories, and do business with you.
Thank you!

This post is about some things I am seeing in newer reels that just shock me.
Today I was servicing a reel and removed the line guide pawl and noticed it was made of plastic. Never seen one that was plastic. Also found the main shaft end bearing to be completely plastic on a reel I did awhile back.
Sad to see the lack of quality going aside for the greed of maintaining a bottom line.
I fear it will only get worse!

Anyone noticed any quality issues on newer well respected reel manufacturers?


yep.. on shimano stradic drags.. not smooth at all, bought a second one just to see if I had a bad one and it was just as bad.. haven't noticed the parts as they were both brand new...


I don't know what they are using on the new ones. Shimano drags are not the best for sure however if you upgrade to carbon fiber it makes a huge difference. I would say most bass fisherman just crank it all the way down and don't look back. Most I see are stuck and have never been slipped. I try to make sure my Shimanos are slipped frequent as I use braid and do use the drag. So far never had one that was all that bad.



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Re: New reels and plastic parts replacing steel! [Re: Finesse EMPEROR/ Dropshot King] #14587473 01/06/23 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Finesse EMPEROR/ Dropshot King
I will throw in 13 fishing having junk gears…. Have to sent it back to them to repair and the gears are expensive. quantum Reels have junk inside of them… when it breaks you can’t replace it because they don’t make replacement parts, but great news they will give you 15% off another reel with the same issues lol


That sounds about right these days bang

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I’ve absolutely destroyed the anti reverse in 3 Shimano SLX reels in less than a year. The plastic “collar” that holds the “pins” just doesn’t hold up. Switched my heavy shock application rigs (braid and t rig rods) to Lews Superduty, I know the SLX is far from the top of the line, but expected much better from shimano. I still have Citicas and old school green curados that are going strong 10+ years later.




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Originally Posted by buda13
I’ve absolutely destroyed the anti reverse in 3 Shimano SLX reels in less than a year. The plastic “collar” that holds the “pins” just doesn’t hold up. Switched my heavy shock application rigs (braid and t rig rods) to Lews Superduty, I know the SLX is far from the top of the line, but expected much better from shimano. I still have Citicas and old school green curados that are going strong 10+ years later.



As far as I know that anti reverse is the same on SLX as the others you mentioned. Only time I have seen them fail is when/ after they rust out. A couple have failed if the plastic that holds the pin gets damaged. I like the newer ones it has more pins and a better cage. Some of the older Shimano models have back up anti reverses. A new anti reverse with the blue cage is about $25. All my 20 year old Chronarchs still have the originals in them.

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The older Shimano reels are built like a tank, I also saw some parts that were scaled back in materials. That's why I still using many chhronarch's from the 90's, and many reels in-between this era and today. Haven't damaged any new reels, but time will tell.

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NTX Angler, which reel manufacturer is the best bang for your buck in your opinion? I've been switching my arsenal over to Daiwa, and I'm loving everything about it. I have two Quantum KVD Smoke S3 reels that are just awesome in my opinion. I've had them for 3-4 years now, and they're just as smooth as the day I bought them. I know Quantum gets a lot of hate, but I plan to hold onto these until they just fall apart, if they ever do.

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I’ve cleaned reels for around 10 years and clean/service around 2500 a year. If you were wise I’d stick with shimano, daiwa, and abu.

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Originally Posted by Finesse EMPEROR/ Dropshot King
I’ve cleaned reels for around 10 years and clean/service around 2500 a year. If you were wise I’d stick with shimano, daiwa, and abu.



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