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Re: Climate change
[Re: ReelBusy]
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08/02/22 12:33 AM
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Sawhorse
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Thanks for doing your part to save our planet I’d like to nominate Dfitz and Westside for a medal of freedom. Does the TFF have a staffer that can move this forward? Thank you and God Bless America!
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Re: Climate change
[Re: Jpurdue]
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08/02/22 12:36 AM
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bloo_rainger
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Remind me how Humans caused the ice age? And how they caused it to end... Climate change has absolutely happened many time throughout the history of the 4.5 billion year old earth. There have been ice ages and warm periods much warmer than today, many times in the past. The big difference is the rate of change. The warm ups and cool downs in the past happened over vast spans of time, thousands or millions of years... not a few decades. Like I said, I don't think it's going to end humanity. I don't even think it's that big of deal, but there is zero doubt in my mind that man has been heating up the globe over the last 100 years or so through the release of vast quantities of green house gases. Please continue.
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Re: Climate change
[Re: Sawhorse]
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08/02/22 01:08 AM
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ReelBusy
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Thanks for doing your part to save our planet I’d like to nominate Dfitz and Westside for a medal of freedom. Does the TFF have a staffer that can move this forward? Thank you and God Bless America! This is Nobel level deeds
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Re: Climate change
[Re: bloo_rainger]
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08/02/22 10:53 AM
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bloo_rainger
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One of you flat earther’s post up some data on the the 1950’s drought. Ready go….
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Re: Climate change
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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08/02/22 11:36 AM
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butch sanders
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Meh, the dust bowl was worse. The dust bowl was 100% caused by man Clear cut farming
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Re: Climate change
[Re: butch sanders]
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08/02/22 11:48 AM
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ReelBusy
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Meh, the dust bowl was worse. The dust bowl was 100% caused by man Clear cut farming yes, the removal of those prairie forests was a mistake.
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Re: Climate change
[Re: butch sanders]
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08/02/22 12:03 PM
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Bigbob_FTW
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Meh, the dust bowl was worse. The dust bowl was 100% caused by man Clear cut farming more specifically the type of plow they were using, but that was far from the only reason for it.
FJB
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Re: Climate change
[Re: bloo_rainger]
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08/02/22 12:11 PM
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Westside.
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One of you flat earther’s post up some data on the the 1950’s drought. Ready go….
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Re: Climate change
[Re: RoadRunnerTR21]
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08/02/22 12:14 PM
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patriot07
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Yes. This is exactly how weather works. "Climate Change" is just BS and it serves no purpose other than giving someone a excuse for complaining about the weather. The ignorance is real....
Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards. - Soren Kierkegaard
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Re: Climate change
[Re: bloo_rainger]
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08/02/22 12:18 PM
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patriot07
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Remind me how Humans caused the ice age? And how they caused it to end... Climate change has absolutely happened many time throughout the history of the 4.5 billion year old earth. There have been ice ages and warm periods much warmer than today, many times in the past. The big difference is the rate of change. The warm ups and cool downs in the past happened over vast spans of time, thousands or millions of years... not a few decades. Like I said, I don't think it's going to end humanity. I don't even think it's that big of deal, but there is zero doubt in my mind that man has been heating up the globe over the last 100 years or so through the release of vast quantities of green house gases. Please continue. The truth of it is that we have no idea what the long-term consequences are. If nature-lovers are wrong, the impact is nothing. If "climate change isn't real" people are wrong, then the impact may or may not be much worse. I'm not saying we should shut down the economy over climate change. I am saying it's stupid to counter that argument with "humans can't change the climate" kind of argument. It's demonstrably, provably not true. In an issue where you can't prove the other side is wrong but they can prove you are wrong if you swing the pendulum too far your direction, how you use your words and what actions you take become very important. The right has lost a lot of credibility on climate the same way the left has lost a lot of credibility on abortion.
Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards. - Soren Kierkegaard
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Re: Climate change
[Re: patriot07]
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08/02/22 01:27 PM
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ReelBusy
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The right has lost a lot of credibility on climate the same way the left has lost a lot of credibility on abortion. The left has lost all credibility on climate change. Not saying all climate science is junk science, but what the left touts certainly is. I can't think of a single climate forecast model that was presented during the Obama years is even remotely close to actual data. When "scientists" are that wrong you're going to get lots of skepticism in response. When politicians use bad (bought) science to push legislation you're going to get lots of distrust.
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Re: Climate change
[Re: bloo_rainger]
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08/02/22 01:34 PM
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Bigbob_FTW
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if they really believed it, why would Obama build a huge house on the coast?
FJB
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Re: Climate change
[Re: bloo_rainger]
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08/02/22 01:41 PM
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Razorback
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We have already killed people because we shut down coal generating plants. The Monticello and Fairfield plants alone could have heated millions of Texans during the February 2021 cold wave. Other coal plants producing gigawatts of electricity had also been shut down because EPA regulations made them too expensive to operate.
Wouldn't it have been nice if the grid had had a few more gigawatts of dependable electricity to spread around. We could have probably avoided the grid-ordered blackouts that let 251 Texans freeze to death and caused billions and billions of dollars of damage due to busted pipes, flooding, etc.
But that is a...what was Al Gore's term? Oh, yeah, an "inconvenient truth". Climate change policy isn't an abstract concept, it is a political movement that is killing people and destroying our economy right now.
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Re: Climate change
[Re: bloo_rainger]
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08/02/22 01:42 PM
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Bob Davis
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If the left is for climate change, it has to be stupid or immoral. The earth takes care of itself. Remember the end of the world cultists when the BP offshore oil blew and spewed a trillion gallons into the sea? Gone. Where did it go?
Foxtrot Juliet Bravo
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Re: Climate change
[Re: Bob Davis]
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08/02/22 01:48 PM
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ReelBusy
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If the left is for climate change, it has to be stupid or immoral. The earth takes care of itself. Remember the end of the world cultists when the BP offshore oil blew and spewed a trillion gallons into the sea? Gone. Where did it go? I'm surprised they haven't pinned the Le Brea tar pits on Exxon yet.
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