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Re: Lithium batteries.....in and outs/plus vs. minus! [Re: boocat] #14424904 07/20/22 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by boocat
Low temp charge cutoff?


Noco chargers...

Independent charge and control of each battery bank
Selectable charging modes: 12V, 12V AGM, 12V Lithium, and 12V Repair Mode
Works great on all types of lead-acid and lithium-ion batteries
Integrated thermal sensor eliminate over-charging in heat and under-charging in the cold
Charges "dead" batteries as low as 1V
Automatically detects battery sulfation and acid stratification
Simplified mounting system
Fully sealed and IP68 waterproof


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Re: Lithium batteries.....in and outs/plus vs. minus! [Re: Beltonbanger�] #14425043 07/20/22 11:20 AM
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What size NOCO charger do you suggest?


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Re: Lithium batteries.....in and outs/plus vs. minus! [Re: RoadRunnerTR21] #14425172 07/20/22 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadRunnerTR21
What size NOCO charger do you suggest?


10amp per bank...each battery is a bank.


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Re: Lithium batteries.....in and outs/plus vs. minus! [Re: Beltonbanger�] #14425414 07/20/22 05:14 PM
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Well I like the fact that they have a much more consistent voltage through there range. Short charge times and much lighter than conventional batteries. Been trying to lighten up my rearend roflmao......these will do it!!!!


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Re: Lithium batteries.....in and outs/plus vs. minus! [Re: boocat] #14425427 07/20/22 05:24 PM
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How much is the NOCO charger for 3 banks

Re: Lithium batteries.....in and outs/plus vs. minus! [Re: shut-up-and-fish] #14425544 07/20/22 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by shut-up-and-fish
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I get it about most of the china batts not having much of a BMS..........So what do ya'll think the top five rated lithium battery brands would be for troll motor?



All Lithium Bats will be from China and the majority will have a (BMS) battery management system.

The EG4 will be the only battery on the market in a group 24 size, 12v 100Ah, weighing in at 22 lbs, w/BMS and Bluetooth monitoring from your cell phone priced at $550.00. This battery will allow you to be worry free while on the water and in the garage while on the charger.


So why 3, 12V @ 22lbs/each when there are complete 36V units @ 40-45 pounds when some of the selling points of lithium are saving weight and space?

Only thing I can think is if one 12V goes down vs a single point 36V you still have 24V to run the trolling motor and aren't dead on the water? confused


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Re: Lithium batteries.....in and outs/plus vs. minus! [Re: sandegr] #14425547 07/20/22 07:46 PM
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I get it about most of the china batts not having much of a BMS..........So what do ya'll think the top five rated lithium battery brands would be for troll motor?



All Lithium Bats will be from China and the majority will have a (BMS) battery management system.

The EG4 will be the only battery on the market in a group 24 size, 12v 100Ah, weighing in at 22 lbs, w/BMS and Bluetooth monitoring from your cell phone priced at $550.00. This battery will allow you to be worry free while on the water and in the garage while on the charger.


So why 3, 12V @ 22lbs/each when there are complete 36V units @ 40-45 pounds when one of the selling points of lithium is saving weight?


With 3 12's if one of them has a problem you can easily swap in a cheap lead acid until you get a replacement. If your 36 goes south you're dead in the water until you can get a replacement, unless you run two of them.

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Re: Lithium batteries.....in and outs/plus vs. minus! [Re: rh47] #14425691 07/20/22 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Beltonbanger�
Well I like the fact that they have a much more consistent voltage through there range. Short charge times and much lighter than conventional batteries. Been trying to lighten up my rearend roflmao......these will do it!!!!


A Lithium battery will take you all the way consistently to the end of the charge and then boom, time to charge. I recommend charging each time you get off of the water. I have mine charging on the Noco charger constantly and the batteries are ready when I'm ready. Don't get me talking about your rearend...It just ain't happening. roflmao


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How much is the NOCO charger for 3 banks


Noco GENPRO10X3...$324.95


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Re: Lithium batteries.....in and outs/plus vs. minus! [Re: Beltonbanger�] #14426860 07/22/22 12:44 AM
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So, 5 amp charger bring them to 100% just take a little longer?

Re: Lithium batteries.....in and outs/plus vs. minus! [Re: boocat] #14426906 07/22/22 01:51 AM
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So, 5 amp charger bring them to 100% just take a little longer?


Correct but not much. Lithium charge at a faster rate over led acid.


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Re: Lithium batteries.....in and outs/plus vs. minus! [Re: Beltonbanger�] #14427377 07/22/22 04:18 PM
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the mercury optimax motor require ALOT of starting amps.. I found this out by accident.. we left a light on overnight by accident.. got to the ramp and the motor would crank over, sounding like normal crank speed, but would not start..
jumped it off with the truck battery and it fired up.. I think the injectors and plugs require alot of energy to fire the motor off.. so if you ever try to start your merc opti and it cranks but wont start, check your battery FIRST. if its not fully charged . charge it up.. if it still wont start, try a different battery before u try anything else.
you will think, well its cranking over fine, cant be the battery, but you would be mistaken.
I run duralast gold starting batteries in my boats, and they do great. they last around 4 years.. I run Dakota lithiums for my livescope, 7 year warranty and they do great..
the Dakotas had to go thru a few cycles before they held power for a long period.,, dont know if thats normal for lithium batteries.. but after 3 cycles, the time they lasted seemed to increase almost 2 fold.
Dakota litium is the only brand Ive tried so I cant comment on any others.
I do think Dakota is the only brand that offers 7 year warranty though. 7 years solid.. no prorated warranty/


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Re: Lithium batteries.....in and outs/plus vs. minus! [Re: Beltonbanger�] #14429875 07/25/22 08:07 PM
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Check out Impulse Lithium if you are looking for a Cranker. They have Livesay, Palaniuk, Lester, Howell and a lot more big name guys running them. Those guys are also running the starting battery. I did see this package on BBC earlier for $2400

https://www.impulselithium.com/product/36v-all-in-lithium-package/

They have a full 10 year warranty, not prorated and are bluetooth

Re: Lithium batteries.....in and outs/plus vs. minus! [Re: Beltonbanger�] #14430196 07/26/22 02:24 AM
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There ya go Banger. Getcha some of them...


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Re: Lithium batteries.....in and outs/plus vs. minus! [Re: shut-up-and-fish] #14430299 07/26/22 11:57 AM
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There ya go Banger. Getcha some of them...

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