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Hydrilla #14407091 06/28/22 08:46 PM
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For the members that live on or fish a lake a lot that had hydrilla and the state sprayed it. How many years after they killed it did it take to start growing back?

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Honest answer....I've seen one lake where they sprayed it and it took 3-4 years for it to resurface. It was sprayed again and that about did it. Granted that was a smaller lake than we have around here, so take that into consideration.

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5-10 years if it's completely eradicated by the treatment, depending on several variables. Much sooner if the treatment was incomplete or ineffective.


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I was out there Friday.. They did a good job of spraying the couple of areas, So well in fact that it killed 95% of the whole lakes grass. At least the areas i ran to and from. Did find a few clumps of it, but nothing like what i found even 3 months ago..


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Originally Posted by Fish Killer
I was out there Friday.. They did a good job of spraying the couple of areas, So well in fact that it killed 95% of the whole lakes grass. At least the areas i ran to and from. Did find a few clumps of it, but nothing like what i found even 3 months ago..


Yep and it is still dying in some of those spots. They told us they would not kill it all that only around ramps and swimming area at the park on the north shore.
Found out since then they sprayed 500 acres of grass! It is a sad deal, this old lake doesn’t have much cover and it will go down hill in the next few years.

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If "they" are spraying an area of a lake that you're fishing. get ready for the entire lake to be ruined for a looooong time. 10+ years.

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Yay TPWD doing what they do best.


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The question is how do we stop this? There has to be a way to tie the hands of TPWD or get the use of chemicals stopped.

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i wish ken smiths video would have been true but i figured it wouldn't be the truth

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Originally Posted by Phoenix 920 Pro xp
i wish ken smiths video would have been true but i figured it wouldn't be the truth



seems those people have no problem with deception


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Originally Posted by the skipper
The question is how do we stop this? There has to be a way to tie the hands of TPWD or get the use of chemicals stopped.


I’ve said this many times on here… you must first get hydrilla removed from the invasive species list. As long as it’s designated as such we don’t have a leg to stand on.




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Originally Posted by buda13
Originally Posted by the skipper
The question is how do we stop this? There has to be a way to tie the hands of TPWD or get the use of chemicals stopped.


I’ve said this many times on here… you must first get hydrilla removed from the invasive species list. As long as it’s designated as such we don’t have a leg to stand on.



Yup and as long as the money is living around these lakes that don't want grass, you won't have any....

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That's why they don't spray Amistad------no lake front houses !

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No lake houses on Joe Pool and they sprayed just "2 small sections" around the marinas in about 2009. Lake has never been the same for hydrilla since. It didn't help that some boat slip customers and/or employees associated with the marinas were also pouring herbicide into the lake too.

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Originally Posted by fishnfireman
That's why they don't spray Amistad------no lake front houses !


Also federaly owned lake they can't spray..

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Here's how you stop it, everyone go out there and drink the water out of the lake, those who die can have their survivors sue the heck out of them in a class action lawsuit, that will stop em.

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It’s a people problem unfortunately. Government listening to the loud minority and reacting instead of listening the the silent majority

Residents of the lake brought this on themselves by complaining about the grass


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When they sprayed the water hyacinths at Choke years ago, they "got a little out of control" (quote from park ranger) with the spraying and it took years and years for the hydrilla to come back. That lake was the dead sea for years.

They recently sprayed the river again and hopefully, the spray was used sparingly......

Dunlap had grass in it and it was sprayed first with little effect. Grass carp were released and the grass has never returned. That was 20 plus years ago.

I am no biologist but if the spraying is severe due to what I have seen, it may take years to rebound.

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Originally Posted by Marion Morrison
When they sprayed the water hyacinths at Choke years ago, they "got a little out of control" (quote from park ranger) with the spraying and it took years and years for the hydrilla to come back. That lake was the dead sea for years.

They recently sprayed the river again and hopefully, the spray was used sparingly......

Dunlap had grass in it and it was sprayed first with little effect. Grass carp were released and the grass has never returned. That was 20 plus years ago.

I am no biologist but if the spraying is severe due to what I have seen, it may take years to rebound.


Cypress springs used to have great grass, they put grass carp in and they completely destroyed all grass in the lake.. its been 20 years


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Cypress springs used to have great grass, they put grass carp in and they completely destroyed all grass in the lake.. its been 20 years


I know the local biologist pretty well and he's been shocked that it hasn't come back yet. However, after seeing Ken's video that we only have one sex of hydrilla in Texas, that could be the reason. No way to propagate other than growing and spreading via root systems or planting and there's nothing in the lake to do either. And they put carp in there not once but twice. The 2nd batch in 2007 is what really ended any and all vegetation out there. Then the one thing that we had (pads on the West end) that could be fun a couple months out of the year disappeared out of nowhere last year.

On another note - the fishing was pretty darn good on Cypress last week for the few hours we fished it.



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Over 20 years for Ray Roberts. We now have good coon tail. pads, and pond weed finally but it has been a LONG time coming. I still do not see hydrilla but I am not on the water as much as some on here. If you have ever gone swimming where there is a lot of vegetation, it does feel a little creepy so I get it. At the same time I wish balance could be achieved just like the timber in Ray Roberts. Above a certain clearly marked area it is boater beware but down by the parks, wide open fun for skiing. Kill the grass around the swimming/skiing areas but leave some areas alone for the fishermen...


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Cypress springs used to have great grass, they put grass carp in and they completely destroyed all grass in the lake.. its been 20 years


I know the local biologist pretty well and he's been shocked that it hasn't come back yet. However, after seeing Ken's video that we only have one sex of hydrilla in Texas, that could be the reason. No way to propagate other than growing and spreading via root systems or planting and there's nothing in the lake to do either. And they put carp in there not once but twice. The 2nd batch in 2007 is what really ended any and all vegetation out there. Then the one thing that we had (pads on the West end) that could be fun a couple months out of the year disappeared out of nowhere last year.

On another note - the fishing was pretty darn good on Cypress last week for the few hours we fished it.



Yeah i miss the pads out there for sure, i havent made it out in over a year but it fished pretty good when i was out there last too


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Originally Posted by the skipper
The question is how do we stop this? There has to be a way to tie the hands of TPWD or get the use of chemicals stopped.


No no no no . . TPWD is AWESOME!! We got SHARE LUNKER!!!

Say it everybody: "SHARE LUNKER" "SHARE LUNKER" "SHARE LUNKER"


Dont look behind the curtain.

Fools.

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Seriously;

How to control or at least have a voice? ORGANIZE.

How many fishermen are members of clubs in Texas?
How many fishermen fish tournament circuits in Texas?
How many are BASS members?
Then there are the companies that profit from fishing Texas lakes - MLF, BASS, etc.
PLENTY of potential members and partners to apply pressure so as to gain a voice.

CCA did it. Not sure why Texas freshwater guys are so resistant.
Just a bunch of weekend good ol boys apparently that really dont give a rats rear end.

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Originally Posted by 6BOOMER
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That's why they don't spray Amistad------no lake front houses !


Also federaly owned lake they can't spray..


Like Rayburn? roflmao


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Originally Posted by Rescue Fire
If "they" are spraying an area of a lake that you're fishing. get ready for the entire lake to be ruined for a looooong time. 10+ years.


There is one lake that several people on here said that they saw it being sprayed and one guy said that he sprayed it and was scheduled to spray it a second time so it was confirmed that it was sprayed by their posts. Well it must have been sprayed with fertilizer because the grass is very thick and healthy out there after 6 months. In reality the people saying that it was sprayed were wrong and had no idea what they were talking about. They were just posting what they "heard" without checking out the actual facts.

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Fished Hubbard Creek yesterday(Tuesday). Sprayed or not IDK🤷🏻‍♂️ but there is a fraction of the grass that was there the last several years. WAY less grass.

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Originally Posted by Phoenix 920 Pro xp
i wish ken smiths video would have been true but i figured it wouldn't be the truth


Ken’s video was with a TPWD fisheries biologist. I think they would like to make true the things that guy said but they can’t.
There was a lady out here about a month before they sprayed “mapping” the hydrila. She was not a TPWD fisheries biologist, she a TPWD specialist in invasive plants and native plants.
I think the left hand doesn’t know and doesn’t fight with the other people in their department. All just happy to have their state jobs and benefits.

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Late to the party, what lake are we talking about?

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Originally Posted by SK1
Late to the party, what lake are we talking about?


I think Big Creek, used to have the best grass


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Originally Posted by SK1
Late to the party, what lake are we talking about?


Hubbard Creek.

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Curious as to why there isn’t any male hydrilla here and if there are any other states with only female hydrilla


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Curious as to why there isn’t any male hydrilla here and if there are any other states with only female hydrilla


Careful now......Before you know it, you will have ESPN doing a Title IX Documentary on the sexual orientation of invasive species. They do it with everything else.


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Early 80's Conroe was one of the best lakes in the state. Clear Green Water with Bass everywhere...now it is a mudhole filled with A-holes. Just my opinion-never ever allow what happened to Conroe again.

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A lot of the blue haired Karen and Clays, who build lake houses, are the ones that complain about the grass being around their docks and they cannot throw 3/8 oz spinner bait.


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I find it hard to believe that in this day and time with all of the technology we have available, that spraying poison into a lake and basically killing the whole ecosystem is the best option for controlling invasive species or introducing grass carp. Both are very destructive.

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Kinda like lake fork, it's full of stumps and trees but they kill the grass. Why? Never understood that.

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i wish ken smiths video would have been true but i figured it wouldn't be the truth


Ken’s video was with a TPWD fisheries biologist. I think they would like to make true the things that guy said but they can’t.
There was a lady out here about a month before they sprayed “mapping” the hydrila. She was not a TPWD fisheries biologist, she a TPWD specialist in invasive plants and native plants.
I think the left hand doesn’t know and doesn’t fight with the other people in their department. All just happy to have their state jobs and benefits.


he has several videos with the guy over vegetation control

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I studied this a little bit and discovered that if a very small amount of it is introduced up stream from and area it will re-establish in that area pretty fast. I was studying this wondering about what it would do on a small private lake if it got established and if it could be maintained and controlled on a smaller body of water. I believe it is how ever against the law to do this on public water.


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I find it hard to believe that in this day and time with all of the technology we have available, that spraying poison into a lake and basically killing the whole ecosystem is the best option for controlling invasive species or introducing grass carp. Both are very destructive.



THERE ARE A LOT OF TOTAL IDIOTS IN THIS WORLD TODAY. JUST LOOK AT WHOSE IN CHARGE OF THE USA GOING DOWN THE TUBES BECAUSE OF THE IDIOTS IN CHARGE.

SAME WITH THE IDIOTS IN CHARGE OF SPRAYING THE GRASS IN TEXAS LAKES. STUPID, STUPID, STUPID.

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