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Is it just me... #14401384 06/22/22 08:39 PM
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or does anyone else here think that we may be being fed a huge shovel full of male bovine scat about how the conflict in Ukraine is going? I am gonna be uber upset if all that tax payer funded military equipment ends up in Putin's hands.


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Not just you, I still hate to see the everyday citizens losing everything including their lives.


But the entire world reeks of manipulation , nothing at all seems natural or by chance.

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We've already armed the Taliban and Isis who invited the Chinese in to scope out our stuff...that was abandoned. And now we're in the process of arming the Russians too. Treason by reason of stupidity or carelessness is still treason in my book.


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If your neighbor was beating the heck out of his wife and or kids, would you just say not my problem?

I can't believe the world hasn't come together and told Putin to leave Ukraine or face military action. I don't think we should allow him to hold us hostage via nuclear war threat. I don't want to live that way. He is killing civilians in a sovereign country, a country that Russia promised to not attack if they gave up their nukes. Ukraine held up their end of the deal.

Putin needs to be dealt with.

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Originally Posted by sprigsss
If your neighbor was beating the heck out of his wife and or kids, would you just say not my problem?

I can't believe the world hasn't come together and told Putin to leave Ukraine or face military action. I don't think we should allow him to hold us hostage via nuclear war threat. I don't want to live that way. He is killing civilians in a sovereign country, a country that Russia promised to not attack if they gave up their nukes. Ukraine held up their end of the deal.

Putin needs to be dealt with.


What if the neighbors wife and or kids just strangled the family dog to death for no reason?

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Originally Posted by Brent S
Originally Posted by sprigsss
If your neighbor was beating the heck out of his wife and or kids, would you just say not my problem?

I can't believe the world hasn't come together and told Putin to leave Ukraine or face military action. I don't think we should allow him to hold us hostage via nuclear war threat. I don't want to live that way. He is killing civilians in a sovereign country, a country that Russia promised to not attack if they gave up their nukes. Ukraine held up their end of the deal.

Putin needs to be dealt with.


What if the neighbors wife and or kids just strangled the family dog to death for no reason?


Wow, thats a stretch.

Are you insinuating that Ukraine caused this?

They gave up their Nukes in exchange for a promise not to be attacked. What exactly did Ukraine do to deserve this?

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Originally Posted by sprigsss
If your neighbor was beating the heck out of his wife and or kids, would you just say not my problem?

I can't believe the world hasn't come together and told Putin to leave Ukraine or face military action. I don't think we should allow him to hold us hostage via nuclear war threat. I don't want to live that way. He is killing civilians in a sovereign country, a country that Russia promised to not attack if they gave up their nukes. Ukraine held up their end of the deal.

Putin needs to be dealt with.


I am on the Ukrainian's side and feel for them, but I was referring to the garbage on you tube and our own press beating the pity drum. I am starting to believe things may not be as rosy over there as we are being led to believe is all.


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Ukraine has been a cesspool of corruption for a long time and will likely remain one forever. Russia is marginally worse due to being way bigger and having nukes.


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I also think that it is entirely possible that we sent all that equipment over there so that whatever secret info they have about the Biden's and a whole bunch of Republicans gets swept under the proverbial rug.


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Somebody on here said very early that we were most likely being fed a bunch of fairy tales, which seems more likely than Ukraine defeating the Russians. Who really knows though.

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At least their President is out and about. I wonder where the ice cream eating senile old fart in DC would be hiding.

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My understanding is ukrane is corrupt, but they don't deserve being attacked.

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Originally Posted by sprigsss
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If your neighbor was beating the heck out of his wife and or kids, would you just say not my problem?

I can't believe the world hasn't come together and told Putin to leave Ukraine or face military action. I don't think we should allow him to hold us hostage via nuclear war threat. I don't want to live that way. He is killing civilians in a sovereign country, a country that Russia promised to not attack if they gave up their nukes. Ukraine held up their end of the deal.

Putin needs to be dealt with.


What if the neighbors wife and or kids just strangled the family dog to death for no reason?


Wow, thats a stretch.

Are you insinuating that Ukraine caused this?

They gave up their Nukes in exchange for a promise not to be attacked. What exactly did Ukraine do to deserve this?


I’m in favor of Ukraine. Europe and the US are giving them weapons that are older and for the most part obsolete. Russia has said multiple times they are not going to stop withUkraine. Eventually they will attack a NATO country and there will be a World War that no one will win.

Much better to fight Russia through Ukraine and sanctions, my dream is Russia will be like North Korea when this over.


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Well. As long as you send your kids or kin to fight do what you want. Leave us out no American should be fighting when their fellow European s ain’t fighting.


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Originally Posted by Rescue Fire
Somebody on here said very early that we were most likely being fed a bunch of fairy tales, which seems more likely than Ukraine defeating the Russians. Who really knows though.


Russia tried an armored led multi front intrusion and they were treated like a red headed step child. Now they have gone back to WW2 tactics by pulverizing defensive positions and troop concentrations with longe range artillery. The fairy tale is over.

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