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Re: Uvalde Shooter - The Facts [Re: John175☮] #14377210 05/25/22 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by John175☮
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So will you also raise the minimum enlistment age to 21? Doesn't make sense to send our 18-20 year old's off to war if they can't shoot

Buy a gun to 21.


Not sure if you are serious but I agree if you are. I mean you can’t buy a beer at 18 but you can buy a firearm as long as it is not a pistol. I do not see that logic.

Re: Uvalde Shooter - The Facts [Re: Notaguide] #14377219 05/25/22 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Notaguide
So will you also raise the minimum enlistment age to 21? Doesn't make sense to send our 18-20 year old's off to war if they can't shoot


Believe it or not but you can still enlist at 17

Re: Uvalde Shooter - The Facts [Re: Spiderman] #14377227 05/25/22 11:47 PM
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I know. I came awfully close

Re: Uvalde Shooter - The Facts [Re: Spiderman] #14377265 05/26/22 12:49 AM
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I'm not sure that kids making fun of a boy dressing up as a girl is text book Bullying. You gonna have a hard time putting a stop to that.

Re: Uvalde Shooter - The Facts [Re: Spiderman] #14377275 05/26/22 01:08 AM
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Stop normalizing a mental illness for starters.


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I was taught how to shoot at a very young age. I think about 7-8 years old with a 22 rifle. I was shooting shotguns squirrel hunting about 10 years old. We had our shotguns and deer rifles hanging in our trucks at school never heard anyone state they wanted to go get a gun and shoot up our school. We also had no interest in dressing up like a girl or getting a trophy for just running the race. We worked hard to be better then others running to get a trophy that mean something.

Re: Uvalde Shooter - The Facts [Re: WAWI] #14377284 05/26/22 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by WAWI
I'm not sure that kids making fun of a boy dressing up as a girl is text book Bullying. You gonna have a hard time putting a stop to that.

This.

Re: Uvalde Shooter - The Facts [Re: Brandon Adamcik] #14377292 05/26/22 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Brandon Adamcik
Stop normalizing a mental illness for starters.


This, I dont see this as a Bullying, I dont see it as a gun problem. I see it as a criminally sick individual. 99.9999 percent of gun owners never do anything like this, 99.9999 percent of people who were at one time or another bullied as a youth never do anything like this. There are a few nut jobs walking the earth and it's probably impossible to weed them out or really identify them prior to them doing something ridiculous and evil. I see this as a failure of schools to secure themselves. Guards, trained armed personnel, fences, locking it down, whatever it takes. And I dont think the Burden falls solely on the schools, local police department and sheriff departments need to contribute to the efforts as well.

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Re: Uvalde Shooter - The Facts [Re: Brandon Adamcik] #14377298 05/26/22 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Brandon Adamcik
Stop normalizing a mental illness for starters.



Yep.

Re: Uvalde Shooter - The Facts [Re: Spiderman] #14377308 05/26/22 02:09 AM
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What is the total number shot?
Was it a homeland officer that shot him?

Re: Uvalde Shooter - The Facts [Re: Hard Rain] #14377318 05/26/22 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Hard Rain
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Originally Posted by Notaguide
So will you also raise the minimum enlistment age to 21? Doesn't make sense to send our 18-20 year old's off to war if they can't shoot

Buy a gun to 21.


Not sure if you are serious but I agree if you are. I mean you can’t buy a beer at 18 but you can buy a firearm as long as it is not a pistol. I do not see that logic.

Is buying beer a constitutional right?

Re: Uvalde Shooter - The Facts [Re: wytex] #14377320 05/26/22 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by wytex
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"the shooter was bullied"....who wasn't?


Bullying today is not like when we were younger. Back then you could walk away from it , now it will follow you online everywhere and folks can be relentless online.

Not to say your wrong but let's dig in to what your saying. Why are we blaming social media? Why aren't we being better about teaching kids or restricting access to that stuff? Saying all that I think it boils down to one thing, sin. We are sinful people and if we want to see the change happen it has to start with the heart first. It's no coincidence that the further we move from God the more evil we become.

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I got my [censored] kicked and thrown in the bushes at Pt's one time ...

Re: Uvalde Shooter - The Facts [Re: Spiderman] #14377327 05/26/22 02:40 AM
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I’m reading some reports that local officer were outside, not going in while parents yelled at them to help.
They waited on a border patrol unit to go inside???

Re: Uvalde Shooter - The Facts [Re: Allison1] #14377338 05/26/22 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Allison1
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Originally Posted by wytex
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"the shooter was bullied"....who wasn't?


Bullying today is not like when we were younger. Back then you could walk away from it , now it will follow you online everywhere and folks can be relentless online.


And? Does that mean you would shoot up a room full of children? Is that how they do it in Wyoming?


He did not say that nor do I or you think he meant it.
He said the guy was bullied. From reading about it numerous times for a speech impediment.
No, not all or even many respond like that but it does become a factor.


So, would you exclude that bullying from being a factor that a professional use to evaluate a kid?
I would leave that to a them but it sounds plausible.


Allison, I'm pretty sure the he you are referring to is a she. just saying.
As far as bullying, I believe wytex is spot on. I think there have been quite a few young girls who committed suicide because of online bullying. It's a shame the psycho who killed all those kids didn't off himself instead. I don't understand how you can get put in facebook jail for 30 days for trying to help someone find homes for some puppies but that kid made 3 facebook posts that were clear warnings that no one thought to alert anyone about.

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