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Re: Another Insight On These School Shootings
[Re: racing75]
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05/25/22 07:06 PM
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Douglas J
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Issue is we used to lock crazy people up in institutions, now society tries to fix them with a hug or a certain colored wristband and a hashtag.
Start treating the dangerous mentally ill like they are dangerous again.
#MFGA
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Re: Another Insight On These School Shootings
[Re: Douglas J]
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05/25/22 07:08 PM
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SteezMacQueen
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Issue is we used to lock crazy people up in institutions, now society tries to fix them with a hug or a certain colored wristband and a hashtag.
Start treating the dangerous mentally ill like they are dangerous again. Concentration camps?
Eat. Sleep. Fish.
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Re: Another Insight On These School Shootings
[Re: racing75]
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05/25/22 07:10 PM
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Allison1
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Go back to gun training? LTC training course along with a test to help determine their mental condition.
What better way to weed out someone who is not capable of responsible gun ownership? Train the instructors to look for signs of social problems.
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Re: Another Insight On These School Shootings
[Re: Allison1]
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05/25/22 07:14 PM
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SteezMacQueen
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Go back to gun training? LTC training course along with a test to help determine their mental condition.
What better way to weed out someone who is not capable of responsible gun ownership? Train the instructors to look for signs of social problems. You’re assuming they buy the guns legally every time. That’s 100% not the case.
Eat. Sleep. Fish.
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Re: Another Insight On These School Shootings
[Re: Ghost4BH]
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05/25/22 07:26 PM
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Patriot Guard Rider
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We can't even keep the local restaurants open around here normal hours because of staff shortages. How do you geniuses expect to staff every school with armed security? The local police department or sheriff department can provide staff for the schools. Our middle schools and high schools have campus resource officers who are provided by the local PD and is on each campus. Why not use military veterans for security? They could be easily vetted, trained, and many would probably love to contribute to the safety and security of our kids. They probably have some kids in schools also. This would keep the LEOs available for LEO stuff.
Family is everything! Life is precious. We don’t have forever. We have now. This moment. We can choose to love our lives now.
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Re: Another Insight On These School Shootings
[Re: SteezMacQueen]
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05/25/22 07:27 PM
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Douglas J
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Issue is we used to lock crazy people up in institutions, now society tries to fix them with a hug or a certain colored wristband and a hashtag.
Start treating the dangerous mentally ill like they are dangerous again. Concentration camps? We used to lock the mentally ill in institutions if they were too dangerous to live freely ion society. In the 70's and 80's some people wanted to let all the crazies out and eliminate the mental healthcare system. What you see today is the result of not monitoring the mentally ill and locking up the ones that need to be locked up. A concentration camp is what the Nazis used to imprison jews and others they saw as enemies, not sure how the two can even be compared.
#MFGA
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Re: Another Insight On These School Shootings
[Re: racing75]
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05/25/22 07:39 PM
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Samsonsworld
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Exactly, problem is they closed all the asylums and you can no longer pay to lock up crazy family members.
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Re: Another Insight On These School Shootings
[Re: racing75]
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05/25/22 07:48 PM
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LoneStarSon
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How many parents truly know their kids? Know what's going on with them or at their school? When my oldest sister entered middle school, my mom got upset because if someone was tardy to their class, there was not a record of it. After mom raised holy **** at the school, it was tracked and on report cards the next six weeks. After my sister reported a kid took a large marble to school and hit the bus driver in the back of the head, mom started riding the bus. Every day through the rest of the school year, either my mom or my father was on the bus. They got teachers to do it the following years and now their are bus monitors. Mom knew she didn't raise angels, but also knew she wanted us to be safe and receive a good education. She trusted the teachers, but also verified the information. Most parents can't/won't do that these days. Whether it's an absentee father, or having to have both parents work to support the family, there doesn't seem to be a lot of parental oversight, nor is there a lot of trust in teachers...and I understand that. All too often people who don't have the passion or skills become teachers for the 'easy' job (so they think) and the summers off and the retirement. We need to train teachers better and pay them more. We also need to spend more on mental health treatment....and there are a lot of studies on gut health and how it affects mental health. What are these chemicals in processed foods doing to our guts and brains? Cheaper foods...we get what we pay for. I get it. I used to love processed foods, and still do in the form of Lay's Munchies Flamin' Hot Peanuts (I could eat a couple pounds a day if I wouldn't swell up to the size of the Goodyear Blimp), but I control myself.
I believe our foods could very easily be part of this issue and more research needs to be done on what companies are putting into our foods. Heck, in 2007, the FDA banned a pesticide from food crops, but it wasn't until 2018 that they actually quit using it. It was sprayed on soy crops...soy is in darn near everything...and this pesticide is known to cause issues with the brain. It had been in use since the 1960's. Unintended consequences.
But we've got to start speaking up when we notice something isn't right with Little Johnny. Sometimes it isn't just a case of 'boys will be boys'.
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Re: Another Insight On These School Shootings
[Re: SteezMacQueen]
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05/25/22 07:57 PM
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Allison1
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Go back to gun training? LTC training course along with a test to help determine their mental condition.
What better way to weed out someone who is not capable of responsible gun ownership? Train the instructors to look for signs of social problems. You’re assuming they buy the guns legally every time. That’s 100% not the case. One thing won't fix it. This is but one point where a person could be looked at and be assessed.
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Re: Another Insight On These School Shootings
[Re: LoneStarSon]
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05/25/22 08:50 PM
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1oldbassguy
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How many parents truly know their kids? Know what's going on with them or at their school? When my oldest sister entered middle school, my mom got upset because if someone was tardy to their class, there was not a record of it. After mom raised holy **** at the school, it was tracked and on report cards the next six weeks. After my sister reported a kid took a large marble to school and hit the bus driver in the back of the head, mom started riding the bus. Every day through the rest of the school year, either my mom or my father was on the bus. They got teachers to do it the following years and now their are bus monitors. Mom knew she didn't raise angels, but also knew she wanted us to be safe and receive a good education. She trusted the teachers, but also verified the information. Most parents can't/won't do that these days. Whether it's an absentee father, or having to have both parents work to support the family, there doesn't seem to be a lot of parental oversight, nor is there a lot of trust in teachers...and I understand that. All too often people who don't have the passion or skills become teachers for the 'easy' job (so they think) and the summers off and the retirement. We need to train teachers better and pay them more. We also need to spend more on mental health treatment....and there are a lot of studies on gut health and how it affects mental health. What are these chemicals in processed foods doing to our guts and brains? Cheaper foods...we get what we pay for. I get it. I used to love processed foods, and still do in the form of Lay's Munchies Flamin' Hot Peanuts (I could eat a couple pounds a day if I wouldn't swell up to the size of the Goodyear Blimp), but I control myself.
I believe our foods could very easily be part of this issue and more research needs to be done on what companies are putting into our foods. Heck, in 2007, the FDA banned a pesticide from food crops, but it wasn't until 2018 that they actually quit using it. It was sprayed on soy crops...soy is in darn near everything...and this pesticide is known to cause issues with the brain. It had been in use since the 1960's. Unintended consequences.
But we've got to start speaking up when we notice something isn't right with Little Johnny. Sometimes it isn't just a case of 'boys will be boys'. 100% truth . We are poisoning our kids for the sake of cheap food ---it started in the mid nineties . Europe has banned GMO based food products for years . Obama campaigned on making Monsanto " pay for what they are doing " and literally two years later appointed a Monsanto board member to head the FDA . How many people on this website fully understand the implications of GMO based food products on the immune system ? Have you ever seen what some people buy at the grocery store ---it's insane . Chemicals DO NOT belong in our bodies and kids today are loaded with them .
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Re: Another Insight On These School Shootings
[Re: SteezMacQueen]
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05/25/22 08:54 PM
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Jpurdue
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Go back to gun training? LTC training course along with a test to help determine their mental condition.
What better way to weed out someone who is not capable of responsible gun ownership? Train the instructors to look for signs of social problems. You’re assuming they buy the guns legally every time. That’s 100% not the case. If you are talking crime in general or mass shootings in general, this is true. If you are talking school shootings they almost always get the guns from friends or family or purchase them legally. These are young losers. They are not going to drive to the nearest metro and buy a black market gun in the hood.
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"Bragging may not bring happiness, but no man having caught a large fish goes home through an alley." -A.L. www.LunkerLore.com
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Re: Another Insight On These School Shootings
[Re: racing75]
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05/25/22 09:03 PM
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In general terms.....Look at how the 20-somethings are raising this generation, looking backward at each generation before may show how Kids are raised has deteriorated sequentially.
Lack of strong parental influence, lost values........today's choices of entertainment (violent video games, social media, musical lyrics, etc.)
"Reap what you sow", a lot of bad genetics at play too.
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Re: Another Insight On These School Shootings
[Re: outdoor-addict]
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05/25/22 09:07 PM
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JackMason
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In general terms.....Look at how the 20-somethings are raising this generation, looking backward at each generation before may show how Kids are raised has deteriorated sequentially.
Lack of strong parental influence, lost values........today's choices of entertainment (violent video games, social media, musical lyrics, etc.)
"Reap what you sow", a lot of bad genetics at play too. Bingo
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Re: Another Insight On These School Shootings
[Re: JackMason]
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05/25/22 09:14 PM
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Tiltman
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In general terms.....Look at how the 20-somethings are raising this generation, looking backward at each generation before may show how Kids are raised has deteriorated sequentially.
Lack of strong parental influence, lost values........today's choices of entertainment (violent video games, social media, musical lyrics, etc.)
"Reap what you sow", a lot of bad genetics at play too. Bingo ditto
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Re: Another Insight On These School Shootings
[Re: racing75]
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05/25/22 09:22 PM
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Scagnetti
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When nothing was done after Sandy Hook, I lost faith that anything will ever be done.
If our government refuses to do something, it should be legal to bring guns into every place government does business: courtrooms, the Supreme Court, governors’ mansions, the White House, Congresses, both federal and state. If our kids and churches are put at risk so should all the politicians who’ve brought us to the brink.
Let them take the pain for a change.
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