guiding elk, I could put folks on the elk no problem since we had camps in the weimenuche wilderness and it has the largest herd in colorado.

hunter gets the shakes and misses is that my fault?


guide puts a person on fish and they can't get the lure or presentation right is that the guides fault they didn't catch?

none the way you worded it, bad fishermen easy to blank.

can't set hook right, wait too long or don't put enough in it.

insist on wrong lure and not good at presenting it. ie. chatterbait, sometimes a straight retrieve works, sometimes a lift and drop works, sometimes making it bump timber works. if the person tossing it can't figure that out they blank.

y'all keep acting like just because a guide can put people on fish the dam fish will attack any lure thrown any way, simply won't work that way on any lake.

have you ever fished one end of the boat and blanked while the other end keeps gettin bit with same lures?

The guides job is to teach you the customer how to catch the fish on your own and apply the right presentation that it takes.

Not for the guide to catch fish in front of the customer. I have had days where I showed the right presentation to the customers and after showing it a telling the customer 10 times or more they still don't listen or fish it right.

Guess how that ends ? Oh but it is always the guides fault cause he makes a living teaching the students / Customers.

I would think if the guide did fish that day which is crazy with 3 guys in the boat he probably did not cast to the sweet spots to catch one in front of the customers. customers don't like the guide fishing or catching fish on a guide trip.

I will fish sometimes to make sure the bite is still on and make sure the presentation is the same but if I know it is on.... I won't fish especailly with 3 guys.

95 percent of my customers understand and are there willing to learn how to get better.

If you have a couple of grand kids take them fishing for a day and see how many bass they can catch.

Bites are sometime very hard to feel. I had a guy a few weeks back that insisted he wanted to throw a Texas Rig when my best bite was a chatter bait or a square bill.

So I switched it for him told him what to do to get bit .

A few minutes later 30 - 45 mins probably he said well they are not bitting this. I looked at the brush hawg and it had teeth marks all over it !!!!! Never felt a bite. OOPS that is the guides fault right .

Just saying fishing is easy but catching is HARD.

Of all the guides you have known over the years, how many could blank in the middle of the spawn and shad spawn with 3 clients in an 8 hour day?

Be honest...

I was asking someone I have known since he was a kid and has spent his entire life, every day, at Lake Fork.

But, thanks for the answer.

And truth is not a single decent guide on a good weather day in middle of the spawn would get skunked with 3 customers and him/herself.

It says in the post that the guide fished some too, so what's your participation trophy excuse for the guide not getting a bite in April during a late spawn and shad spawn?

My wife fishes 3-4 times a year for bass, uses one technique mostly, a wacky worm. And she has never gotten skunked at Fork in the spring with me and I am not a guide or even close.


It's okay to admit some of these guides suck and they are basically stealing from unsuspecting customers.

It depends on the guide. Some guides on Fork are very good and know the lake very well, Marc is one of them. Some "guides" on Fork are just there to get paid to take people out. You need to choose the right guide. The O/P did not name the guide or tell us about his knowledge of Fork so we don't know that part. Guides can't make the fish bite or make up for the lack of experience his clients have catching fish. It is what it is. Simple as that.

I have talked to several guides that have told their client what the fish are biting on but the client wants to fish something else, and then does so, even when the guide tells them that is not a good idea, then they complain when they are disappointed with the ones they caught. Well, they should have listened to the guide.

I realize I have not posted very much, but I have lost a great deal of respect for some posters on here from this thread.

by the way dougie, there is not a single guide on fork that always has a good day, I know of a couple that have been bassmaster qualified that have been skunked, it happens to the best no matter what time of year it is.