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Re: Gar fish. Why they are not shot and killed on sight??
[Re: Allison1]
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04/11/22 05:22 PM
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Dan90210 ☮
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In the summer they roam in packs and can be seen surfacing. When bass fishing is slow we used to catch needle nose gar on a rope lure.
Take the soft nylon rope, not the stiff nylon, and cut 20-24" off. Tie a loop in the middle so you can tie it to the fishing line. Start at each end and unbraid the nylon up to the knot. What you will have is a gar lure. Thread a 1/2oz worm weight and then tie the line onto the loop. Cast it out in the midst of the gar. Let is sink 5 seconds then start reeling in slowly. When you feel a tick, freespool the reel for 5 seconds. That will give the gar enough time to get their teeth tangled in the nylon.
Then just reel them in. No setting since there is no hook.
How do you get them off the rope? Or do you just cut it and throw them back with their jaw wired shut?
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Re: Gar fish. Why they are not shot and killed on sight??
[Re: RipDaLips]
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04/11/22 05:24 PM
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Dan90210 ☮
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If any of you are ever in the Marksville, La. area on a Friday eve, you can get all you can eat of their gar balls, rice and gravy at Paragon Casino. Frigg'n Wondermous! Gar balls? You love the taste of gar balls and like to out them in your mouth!? What are you... a gay fish!?
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Re: Gar fish. Why they are not shot and killed on sight??
[Re: redace1]
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04/11/22 05:44 PM
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Outdoordude
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There is an argument that all "Reservoirs" in Texas are not natural, so the fish within them are also technically not natural. So, there are gar living in parts of watersheds now that they never would have naturally so we shouldn't feel too bad about eliminating them from these artificial habitats. lol.
That said, gar get a bad rap. They are very cool. They've been found in fossils over 100 million years old, they can breathe air, they have the same intestine design as sharks, paddlefish and sturgeon, and the alligators get huge. One of my earliest memories from fishing with dad as a tiny kid was seeing an alligator gar that seemed, at the time, nearly the length of our bass boat swim underneath us.
As with everything, they can get overly abundant and take food away from other sportfish. In balance, they can help control other large nuisance species and add a cool node to the fish community. Much respect to the humble gar.
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Re: Gar fish. Why they are not shot and killed on sight??
[Re: Dan90210 ☮]
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04/11/22 05:44 PM
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Allison1
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In the summer they roam in packs and can be seen surfacing. When bass fishing is slow we used to catch needle nose gar on a rope lure.
Take the soft nylon rope, not the stiff nylon, and cut 20-24" off. Tie a loop in the middle so you can tie it to the fishing line. Start at each end and unbraid the nylon up to the knot. What you will have is a gar lure. Thread a 1/2oz worm weight and then tie the line onto the loop. Cast it out in the midst of the gar. Let is sink 5 seconds then start reeling in slowly. When you feel a tick, freespool the reel for 5 seconds. That will give the gar enough time to get their teeth tangled in the nylon.
Then just reel them in. No setting since there is no hook.
How do you get them off the rope? Or do you just cut it and throw them back with their jaw wired shut? Once out of the water you can get them freed easy enough with a pair of needle nosed pliers. Get it? Needle nosed pliers to free needle nosed gar? Not hard at all.
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Re: Gar fish. Why they are not shot and killed on sight??
[Re: Outdoordude]
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04/11/22 08:08 PM
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Duck_Hunter
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There is an argument that all "Reservoirs" in Texas are not natural, so the fish within them are also technically not natural. So, there are gar living in parts of watersheds now that they never would have naturally so we shouldn't feel too bad about eliminating them from these artificial habitats. lol. They’re natural to the rivers and creeks that were dammed to make the reservoirs.
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Re: Gar fish. Why they are not shot and killed on sight??
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04/11/22 08:58 PM
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grout-scout
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Different kinds of gars, those big ones are alligator gar. The little ones are typically called needle nosed Gar. Alligator have the limit of 1 per day, except for Falcon. Needle nose are open season on, no limit. Long Nose Gar and Spotted Gar are the most common in North Texas. Everything by its right name. beat them all in the head, just like that…
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Re: Gar fish. Why they are not shot and killed on sight??
[Re: grout-scout]
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04/11/22 09:58 PM
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Dan90210 ☮
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Different kinds of gars, those big ones are alligator gar. The little ones are typically called needle nosed Gar. Alligator have the limit of 1 per day, except for Falcon. Needle nose are open season on, no limit. Long Nose Gar and Spotted Gar are the most common in North Texas. Everything by its right name. beat them all in the head, just like that…
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Re: Gar fish. Why they are not shot and killed on sight??
[Re: redace1]
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04/11/22 10:39 PM
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Bayou Burner
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While there’s no Trinity monsters where I reside, the gator gars that are here get pretty sizable-(4’-7’)When the tide moves in or out, I always see some rolling. Catch speckled trout on topwaters right next to them lol
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Re: Gar fish. Why they are not shot and killed on sight??
[Re: Chris B]
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04/11/22 11:24 PM
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MrRoachie
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They’ve just about taken over Ray Roberts. Landed two of the suckers Saturday. Alligator or Longnose/needle nose gar?
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Re: Gar fish. Why they are not shot and killed on sight??
[Re: MrRoachie]
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04/12/22 12:37 AM
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Chris B
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They’ve just about taken over Ray Roberts. Landed two of the suckers Saturday. Alligator or Longnose/needle nose gar? Longnose, I don't know of any alligator gar in there. Millions of them four feet long and bigger.
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Re: Gar fish. Why they are not shot and killed on sight??
[Re: redace1]
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04/12/22 01:17 AM
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Capt. Mac
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Gar are an awsome fly rod, sight casting fish. You can catch them on flies with a small hook diameter. Just like Tarpon, the hook up ratio isn't very high but that's part of it. Also, just like Tarpon, they jump when hooked. This make for some exciting hook sets even when the fish throws the fly - just like Tarpon. They really are very cool fish and I think you should at least give them a try before writing them off completely.
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Re: Gar fish. Why they are not shot and killed on sight??
[Re: Capt. Mac]
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04/12/22 02:04 AM
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Duck_Hunter
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Gar are an awsome fly rod, sight casting fish. You can catch them on flies with a small hook diameter. Just like Tarpon, the hook up ratio isn't very high but that's part of it. Also, just like Tarpon, they jump when hooked. This make for some exciting hook sets even when the fish throws the fly - just like Tarpon. They really are very cool fish and I think you should at least give them a try before writing them off completely. Nice!
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Re: Gar fish. Why they are not shot and killed on sight??
[Re: redace1]
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04/12/22 02:04 AM
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Mudshark
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Because you can’t just killing stuff you don’t like.
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Re: Gar fish. Why they are not shot and killed on sight??
[Re: Mudshark]
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04/12/22 02:10 AM
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grout-scout
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Because you can’t just killing stuff you don’t like. Kill it all, if it breathes, it needs killing.
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Re: Gar fish. Why they are not shot and killed on sight??
[Re: redace1]
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04/12/22 02:22 AM
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Westside.
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I'm not mad at the gars, they are like the squirrel sanctuary of the rivers and lakes.
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