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Something about Texas Hydrilla 99% of Us Don't Know #14311364 03/10/22 10:43 PM
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It's not often that I find something out and tell 10 buddies and every single one of them says "I didn't know that"...this is one of those.



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Re: Something about Texas Hydrilla 99% of Us Don't Know [Re: KenTx1962] #14311386 03/10/22 11:05 PM
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Thanks for the info Ken PM sent.


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Re: Something about Texas Hydrilla 99% of Us Don't Know [Re: KenTx1962] #14311389 03/10/22 11:07 PM
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very interesting

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Re: Something about Texas Hydrilla 99% of Us Don't Know [Re: KenTx1962] #14311614 03/11/22 02:04 AM
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Sorry, but can someone explain how we had Hydrilla abundance in Lake Amistad growing from 30+ feet up and not even close to a boat propellar? Guess I’m not buying the fragmentation theory.
And I believe birds are the most common spreader of plants to different bodies of water.


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Re: Something about Texas Hydrilla 99% of Us Don't Know [Re: horseplaydvm] #14311801 03/11/22 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by horseplaydvm
Sorry, but can someone explain how we had Hydrilla abundance in Lake Amistad growing from 30+ feet up and not even close to a boat propellar? Guess I’m not buying the fragmentation theory.
And I believe birds are the most common spreader of plants to different bodies of water.

COOT"S and wind are what spread it so much on Amistad. Not boat propellers --------I don't know about 30' but I've seen it matted on top to 26'

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Re: Something about Texas Hydrilla 99% of Us Don't Know [Re: KenTx1962] #14311888 03/11/22 01:52 PM
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monecious or dioecous. I'm quite sure the fish don't care.

Re: Something about Texas Hydrilla 99% of Us Don't Know [Re: KenTx1962] #14311976 03/11/22 02:59 PM
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Is there a public list of what product is being sprayed, where and when? I was at Toledo Bend when the big flood hit. If they are saying the muddy water killed all the hydrilla then what killed all the lily pads and haygrass? Ever since they went spray crazy at Fork the year the hyacinth popped up there has been little to no hydrilla in the lake. I feel like they are trying to get a little to cute and over managing and doing more harm than good with the spraying.


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That's the history of TPWD. They have killed many lakes with spraying. I will forever miss Purtis Creek in the 90s. They have never learned.

If you have a private lake, the biologist will advice using sonar pellets. It killed our lake in the early 2000s. Once again we are being advice to treat the grass. Homeowners trust the guy they paid so dead the lake goes. It happens more than it should. Poisoning the drinking water never made sense to me.

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While I am sure muddy water at a sustained high level affects hydrilla. I may not convinced that is the main contributing factor. There are many lakes that have very stable water level that are now void of grass.

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Originally Posted by Chris B
Is there a public list of what product is being sprayed, where and when? I was at Toledo Bend when the big flood hit. If they are saying the muddy water killed all the hydrilla then what killed all the lily pads and haygrass? Ever since they went spray crazy at Fork the year the hyacinth popped up there has been little to no hydrilla in the lake. I feel like they are trying to get a little to cute and over managing and doing more harm than good with the spraying.

He admits that the spraying killed that haygrass and pads. They are saying that one product they were spraying was killing that stuff so that's when they did the rayburn study. Now they spray stuff that should only stun the hay grass and other stuff but it should recover. That's where I think the issue is, over spraying, incorrect mixtures, etc are still killing everything. I've personally seen where they've sprayed up the bank and everything was dying, buck brush, regular grass, trees, everything. Don't get me wrong, I am glad we have someone in TPWD that cares about the lakes more than in the past and they are actually trying to fix past mistakes. I will never agree with spraying chemicals in our water, that's just wrong and unacceptable IMO. I'm hopeful we can find another solution to this obvious problem and hopefully our lakes aren't being permanently hurt by these chemicals

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Good information. Thanks for sharing. cheers


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Re: Something about Texas Hydrilla 99% of Us Don't Know [Re: KenTx1962] #14312094 03/11/22 04:17 PM
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That’s good information, but I question some of it I to think they over spray or have the wrong mixture, I remember when Cedar Creek was full of hydrilla back in the late 70s when they killed it it has never came back. I also remember the first time I went to Amistad I could see Hydrilla down deep it would move around like wave action . It seems that when TPWD kills it it never comes back.

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First we have a home on Cedar Creek. The lack of ANYTHING growing shallow there has nothing to do with TP&W, dock owners here have decided that they own all the water in front of their property, and therefore will spray, pellet, pull, do whatever it takes to keep anything from growing in front of their docks. It makes me sick, but I have seen it now since we bought our place in 2004.

Second... and I don't want to rile the TFF, but if TPW won't import some hydrilla from the north so we can experience the hey days of the 80's again then lots of guys make trips up there to smallmouth fish in the summer, this seems like an easy fix.


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