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Correctomundo!

By your own math, if those numbers held up, the death rate each year would increase by around 12% and the average lifespan would decrease by the same amount. You think that warrants no action?

Saying this comes with the privilege of not having really been hurt by this. I lost a HS friend, another HS friend's dad, and my own dad. All dead from Covid.

They'd all be alive today if we extended lockdowns. All of our family's lives are forever changed. All 3 of them in good health prior to catching the virus.

I'm glad everyone got to go back to getting their starbucks, but let's not pretend to be so naive as to say that the reaction to the virus was overkill. It saved many lives and would have saved more if not for the combination of extreme arrogance and stupidity from so many pressuring the government to open things back up.

As someone who was directly impacted, I'd much rather see your gratitude that you weren't impacted than your insinuation that the attempt to save lives is useless.

You say that democrats used it to get Trump out of office. Well, republicans ignored it and cost lives to try to keep Trump in office. That's a fact. They're both terrible...

I know 3 people who died. None obese. But even so, obese people deserve to die and are less worth taking action for? The rationale used to justify more death is getting pretty thin...

Nobody ever forced anybody to leave their home. I’m super sorry for your losses but I don’t understand why people need the government to make personal decisions for themselves.

Yes, and it had been proven to be true. I think I was one that same train for the record lol.

I don't know that it is worthwhile for me to try to discuss this with someone who is upset because we weren't locked down longer. Our views of what America is and ought to be are too far apart.

For what it's worth I think everyone should have the right to wear four masks and never leave his home if he is concerned about the virus. Considering I am not going to force my way into anyone's house the only way he is going to be "exposed" to me is if we are both out in public. Given that, how can anyone blame me or anyone else for giving him covid? Was I supposed to stay home but not him?

How does that work?

you just describe the liberal mind set. You have to mask up and get a shot to protect me. it's all about them

You’re wasting your time with that one, he went to work while having Covid and was bragging about “not being all that sick because he was vaccinated”.

Figure more to it.

You have no way of knowing they’d still be alive- zero way to prove that. Lockdowns have been proven not to work- say we lockdown for another few months, well
Covid ain’t going anywhere so it’s going to spread when the lockdown was lifted eventually. Lockdown long enough and society would fall apart- mental illness, crime from poverty, societal breakdown, etc. we can’t all live in caves and ride this out for 20 years- which wouldn’t matter Covid would spread in 20 years. Sorry for your loss, I know people that died as well- death is certain for all of us, that’s the only thing we know is guaranteed.

Does anyone find it a little odd that this finding doesn't make a lot of sense? Highly transmissible disease, but keeping people apart has no effect on it's spread? How does that work?

Because initially they counted COVID deaths with a very wide definition of COVID death. If you would have lived longer had you not gotten COVID you would have been listed as died from COVID. This lumped in massive numbers of people who died of preexisting terminal illnesses into the COVID deaths. That in turn distorted the USA death rate from COVID into the highest in the world. Didn't help that they gave hospitals a financial incentive to list it as a COVID death...but hey hospital administrators probably got massive bonuses.

Now that Trump is out they have changed the definition of COVID hospitalizations to Died "With" COVID and died "From" COVID and I believe they need to go back and use global death rates to align our Pre-Biden death rates with what they actually are and not the inflated numbers they posted in 2020. Until they do that they are just jerking us around and shaping the story how Joe Biden saved us.