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Re: Ukraine [Re: T Bird] #14261734 01/24/22 09:50 PM
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I don't think Putin does anything for a while. Just the threat of invasion keeps oil prices up.. an invasion would cause a big price increase in oil/gas short term but long term would cause world wide recession, the U.S. would increase production, and long term much lower oil prices. Or maybe he does invade to be entertained by how politics in the U.S. would respond.


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Re: Ukraine [Re: Bob Davis] #14261764 01/24/22 10:31 PM
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Ha, ya'll are confused, I don't like Trump, but I sure as heck didn't vote for the senile old man!



That doesn't put any stars on your report card. Sounds like you are in the responsible group for the Senile old demented man we have now. Congratulations.


Yep those guys just don’t get what they did when they didn’t vote for trump. They got joe and they are responsible for this mess. Russia or China wouldn’t be challenging trump like they are doing their conscience voted president joe Biden

Re: Ukraine [Re: lconn4] #14261765 01/24/22 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by lconn4
I don't think Putin does anything for a while. Just the threat of invasion keeps oil prices up.. an invasion would cause a big price increase in oil/gas short term but long term would cause world wide recession, the U.S. would increase production, and long term much lower oil prices. Or maybe he does invade to be entertained by how politics in the U.S. would respond.


I will disagree with this he wants to build a pipeline to Europe from is oilfields to supply Europe their energy that cuts us out and goes along way to taking the Dollar off of the oil currency which destroys our economy
Russia and China plan on destroying the us under this bought and paid for treasonous con artist

Re: Ukraine [Re: TR176] #14261767 01/24/22 10:42 PM
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What's the conservative position here? Going to war or not going to war? I'm confused these days. To me war generally seems like a bad idea especially against the other big stack at the table.

Let them have Ukraine, and let's take Canada. Even swap in my mind.

All I know for sure is I can't handle any more taxes or inflation. This is getting ridiculous.


Canada is already a province of the US and a frozen tundra. I say Mexico, they have gorgeous women and beaches.


Said this a long time ago.
Invade and take over Mexico. Then just send a few troops to the Canadian border with signs that say, "You're next."
They'll surrender without cause.

Re: Ukraine [Re: T Bird] #14261831 01/24/22 11:28 PM
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Re: Ukraine [Re: T Bird] #14261862 01/24/22 11:59 PM
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Putin will install his own government in the Ukraine and they will hand over the country without a shot being fired. Most of Ukraine is already a bunch of Russians anyway. Putin is to smart to get tied up in a major war.


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I thought Sleepy Joe said we would not do this!

8500 U.S. Troops to Europe?


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Re: Ukraine [Re: T Bird] #14261867 01/25/22 12:09 AM
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Re: Ukraine [Re: Bob Davis] #14261905 01/25/22 12:37 AM
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Re: Ukraine [Re: 921 Phoenix] #14261931 01/25/22 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 921 Phoenix
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I don't think Putin does anything for a while. Just the threat of invasion keeps oil prices up.. an invasion would cause a big price increase in oil/gas short term but long term would cause world wide recession, the U.S. would increase production, and long term much lower oil prices. Or maybe he does invade to be entertained by how politics in the U.S. would respond.


I will disagree with this he wants to build a pipeline to Europe from is oilfields to supply Europe their energy that cuts us out and goes along way to taking the Dollar off of the oil currency which destroys our economy
Russia and China plan on destroying the us under this bought and paid for treasonous con artist


It would be cool if we had an oil pipeline from Canada to the US.

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Originally Posted by TR176
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Originally Posted by lconn4
I don't think Putin does anything for a while. Just the threat of invasion keeps oil prices up.. an invasion would cause a big price increase in oil/gas short term but long term would cause world wide recession, the U.S. would increase production, and long term much lower oil prices. Or maybe he does invade to be entertained by how politics in the U.S. would respond.


I will disagree with this he wants to build a pipeline to Europe from is oilfields to supply Europe their energy that cuts us out and goes along way to taking the Dollar off of the oil currency which destroys our economy
Russia and China plan on destroying the us under this bought and paid for treasonous con artist


It would be cool if we had an oil pipeline from Canada to the US.


We do.

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Re: Ukraine [Re: T Bird] #14263092 01/25/22 10:09 PM
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Besides Hunter's job prospects what strategic interest is Ukraine to the USA?


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Re: Ukraine [Re: Jpurdue] #14263096 01/25/22 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Jpurdue
What's the conservative position here? Going to war or not going to war? I'm confused these days. To me war generally seems like a bad idea especially against the other big stack at the table.

Let them have Ukraine, and let's take Canada. Even swap in my mind.

All I know for sure is I can't handle any more taxes or inflation. This is getting ridiculous.


The only Reason Canada and Mexico exist as sovereign nations is because we lacked political will....war is just armed robbery writ large...


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Re: Ukraine [Re: John175☮] #14263113 01/25/22 10:22 PM
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Besides Hunter's job prospects what strategic interest is Ukraine to the USA?


The Russians want to control the oil markets with Saudi Arabia y controlling the water ways and land pipelines so they can provide energy to Europe
They can then with SA help control a very large part of the oil markets with China and change the currency of oil from the dollar to anything else which destroys our banking systems by control what is used to pay for the oil. That will also keep us from putting sanctions on them to keep them from selling their oil. China and Russia are working together to destroy us from a financial stance so we can’t fight a war. They got Biden to shut off our drilling so we can’t just start it back up In case of war we don’t have foundries any more so we can provide our own iron to built ships and war equipment
The dollar is the final straw to destroying us and if they suck us back into a war to finish leering our wealth they can walk in and take us over
The Russians and Chinese are three steps ahead of us in every way in the past 50 years and with this nut they are a 100 steps ahead of us

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