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Re: Suburban Vs Tundra [Re: n2ratfishin] #14199841 11/23/21 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by n2ratfishin
http://www.dashboard-light.com/vehicles/Toyota_Tundra.html

Tundra buyers are not looking for the latest and greatest. We buy for reliability. I've owned a couple of Fords and more GM's than I can count. My son traded his Tundra for a brand new Ram Rebel. The Tundra was seven years old with 95,000 miles and had never seen warranty work. His Ram didn't make it home from the dealership before the giant screen went out. That screen controls everything. He was sick. Thankfully after a few trips to the dealer it seems to have all the bugs worked out.

Red Chevy the GM 6 speed doesn't have a 1-1. They are all over or under drive. I had the 4 speed with 3.73 rear end before the 6 speed. That one was 1-1 in 3rd and pulled ok. You have to keep a Tundra right at 70 to see RPM's about 2,000. Both of mine would get about 18 mpg as long as you were interstate driving at 70 or less. Jump it up to 85 and it drops to 15 mpg. I've pulled all sorts of boats on the interstate, 11 or 12 mpg no matter what half ton gasser I've been in.

+1, I switched to Toyota in 2009 after 30 years of owning Fords. 2 Tacomas and now a Tundra. None have seen a wrench except for regular maintenance. That and the resale on the Tacomas was much better then any Ford I owned. I will say that Toyota batteries suck but I have had Ford batteries fail too. A lot of people complain about MPGs on a Tundra have lifts and run 35" tires.


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Re: Suburban Vs Tundra [Re: IKELEVI] #14200138 11/23/21 06:00 PM
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I always hear the reliability argument. I still have yet to own a ford chevy or dodge/ram that hasnt been reliable for a whole bunch of miles.

Re: Suburban Vs Tundra [Re: IKELEVI] #14200154 11/23/21 06:12 PM
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I don't know from gear ratios etc but I had a 2001 suburban z71 and it pulled my 20 foot bass boat all over texas, oklahoma, and louisana with no problems. It would fit a queen sized air mattress in the back for sleeping at the boat ramp and you still had room for your stuff. I loved that truck and when I finally traded her in she had just over 300,000 miles on her.


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Re: Suburban Vs Tundra [Re: redchevy] #14200300 11/23/21 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by redchevy
I always hear the reliability argument. I still have yet to own a ford chevy or dodge/ram that hasnt been reliable for a whole bunch of miles.

Very glad you have had good experiences with the Big 3 trucks. I have had two Chevy trucks since 1990 and they were both very reliable. The only thing besides normal wear and tear items, I had an alternator fail on the 90 model around 10 years of age. As for the 2001, is was geared so wrong that it couldn't maintain overdrive on an overpass over a highway. It down shifted at almost everyone of them. That said, the guy that bought it 6 years ago is still driving the heck out of it. He did however have the rear end gears changed to a higher ratio when he had an Air Locker installed.
As for Ford, my last one was a 1986 Ranger STX. It was at the dealership constantly for just about everything on it falling off, rotting, leaking or breaking. This truck is where I found out that a 7 year unlimited millage dealer warranty isn't worth the paper it was printed on. They called most everything a wear item and wouldn't even cover their shoddy workmanship. At 3 years and 32K miles and 3 years, I traded it in on the 2001 Chevy. The salesman at the Chevy place was driving it when the dash caught fire, yep the Ford dealership had torn the dash apart several times, oops.
As for Dodge/Ram trucks, I have never owned one, but they sure do look good.
We own two Toyota 4Runners, one is 18 years old, the other 10 and so far I have had to replace 1 alternator and regular stuff like tires and batteries. Sometime next year I will get rid of the 2003 and own either a Tacoma or a Tundra.

Re: Suburban Vs Tundra [Re: IKELEVI] #14200953 11/24/21 12:39 PM
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Red Chevy I prefer a Silverado, but I’ve never owned a GM that made it 50,000 miles before some major something or another breaking. I’ve owned two Fords and one of those was bought back under the lemon law. My son traded a Tundra on a Ram Rebel this year. He didn’t make it home from the dealership three hours away before the big screen that controls everything went blank. He traded a Tundra with 90,000 trouble free miles and is sick. They all make lemons once and a while. All the data shows Toyota is behind the tech and most reliable.

Re: Suburban Vs Tundra [Re: redchevy] #14201834 11/25/21 03:30 AM
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I traded a 2013 Tundra with the 5.7 for a 2016 Suburban with a 5.3 and 6 speed. While the Sub pulled just fine, it will not have the same power you have with your Tundra, provided you have a 5.7. I was quite spoiled with the Tundra and never got used to how the Sub accelerated. It did, however, get a LOT better mileage, especially when running empty. My tundra (SR5, Extended Cab, 4x4) never got better than 16 MPG empty and the Sub would get 21 MPG running 75 not pulling.
I recently traded the Sub for a 2021 Silverado Crew Cab, RST/Z71 with the 6.2 and 10 speed. It's as close as I've been able to come to the Tundra's power and I get 23 MPG on the highway.

Are you suggesting the 6.2 has only come close to matching the 5.7 and has not handily surpassed it? If so, your memories of the 5.7 may be a little embellished over time.

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I totally agree, 23 mpg is incredible mileage for any gasser

Re: Suburban Vs Tundra [Re: shellj22] #14202230 11/25/21 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by shellj22
I totally agree, 23 mpg is incredible mileage for any gasser


Easy to do when you drive in the left lane 10mph under the speed limit

Re: Suburban Vs Tundra [Re: tmd11111] #14207547 12/01/21 01:47 AM
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I totally agree, 23 mpg is incredible mileage for any gasser


Easy to do when you drive in the left lane 10mph under the speed limit

That or downhill and down wind. Heck I can get almost 20 in my Tundra at 55 on a flat highway.


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Tundra is much much more reliable than any GM vehicle. Not as fancy, but longevity, 100%. My family has mostly GM in it. I have had GM for almost my whole adult life......Had I bought a Toyota when I got my 2003 Chevy Z71 back in 2005, I'd still have it. Thing was a rust bucket that was insanely meticulously cared for.

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Re: Suburban Vs Tundra [Re: Stump jumper] #14218345 12/12/21 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Stump jumper
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I totally agree, 23 mpg is incredible mileage for any gasser


Easy to do when you drive in the left lane 10mph under the speed limit

That or downhill and down wind. Heck I can get almost 20 in my Tundra at 55 on a flat highway.


I bought a used F150 with the 2.7 ecoboost a couple months ago. Plan was to repair my AC in my old Dodge Cummins and sell it because its a standard transmission and I'm getting older.
I drove the Dodge the other day and decided that I liked it better than the new one so I'm now going to eat it and sell the Ford and keep my diesel.
The F150 got just under 22.6 mpg on my one long trip to the coast a month ago driving 75. That is just about what my Dodge would have gotten but since diesel is so much more than 85 octane gas the Ford would have been cheaper to drive. Problem is being retired most of my driving is with my wife and whichever truck I keep only gets token use.


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