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Where to start building a 20-30 acre private lake #14128759 09/13/21 08:43 PM
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Just looking for some direction on where to start my next big project. My family and I are looking to build a 20-30 acre private lake on our farm which is between Sulphur Springs and Emory in Hopkins County. The farm is about 170 acres and there are two creeks that run through it.

I have read online about the state of Texas requirements, soil testing, and such needed. I would like to work with (pay $) someone upfront to plan things out, evaluate options, etc. as I know this will be an expensive journey.

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Re: Where to start building a 20-30 acre private lake [Re: rb7764] #14129358 09/14/21 02:19 PM
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Get with your NRCS District Conservationist for your county and they will help tremendously.

USDA SULPHUR SPRINGS SERVICE CENTER

530 N. HILLCREST DR #C
SULPHUR SPRINGS, TX 75482

Phone: (903) 885-2933 ext 3
Fax: (844) 496-8108

Mailing Address:
530 N. HILLCREST # 2
SULPHUR SPRINGS, TX 75482

Contact: JESSICA HICKMAN
Natural Resources Manager
Phone: (903) 885-2933 x 115
Fax: (844) 496-8108
Email: Jessica.Hickman@usda.gov

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Re: Where to start building a 20-30 acre private lake [Re: rb7764] #14133000 09/17/21 04:58 PM
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Mike Otto with Otto's Dirt Service. He is up near Gainesville so he probably wont build it but can design the lake for sure. It will be more than just a hole in the ground.

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Re: Where to start building a 20-30 acre private lake [Re: rb7764] #14135490 09/20/21 03:12 AM
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Re: Where to start building a 20-30 acre private lake [Re: rb7764] #14137977 09/22/21 06:24 PM
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Bob Lusk (AKA The Pond Boss) does exactly this. 903 814 7634


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Re: Where to start building a 20-30 acre private lake [Re: rb7764] #14138843 09/23/21 04:48 PM
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Any chance we can be best friends? And will there be a boat ramp ?

Re: Where to start building a 20-30 acre private lake [Re: Tiltman] #14141568 09/26/21 01:51 PM
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Any chance we can be best friends? And will there be a boat ramp ?


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Re: Where to start building a 20-30 acre private lake [Re: rb7764] #14144632 09/29/21 01:27 AM
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I would put a call into the owner of Camalot Bell and see if he has recommendations on build a pond that size.

Good luck with your pond building they are very pricey.

Re: Where to start building a 20-30 acre private lake [Re: rb7764] #14153805 10/07/21 06:24 PM
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If you are still looking for someone to work with, call Andy Labay at Southwest Aquatics. https://www.southwestaquatic.com/ He is a lifelong friend and is excellent to work with. He has past and current clients in your area.


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So do you have to go through all the mess of "building it to state code" because you will place it so that either or both creeks feed the lake that you build and the water in the creeks belongs to the State of Texas?

Or is the state involved just due to the size of the potential body of water?

Just asking from the stand point of if you own the land, and you want to put a big hole in the ground, then why does the state need to be in on the project.


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Section 11.142 of the Texas Water Code allows a person, without obtaining a permit from the TCEQ, to construct on their own property a dam, pond or reservoir storing not more than 200 acre-feet of water for domestic and livestock and fish and wildlife purposes. ... Exempt ponds must be used for non-commercial purposes.


If you are over 200 acre foot of water it gets complicated.

Re: Where to start building a 20-30 acre private lake [Re: rb7764] #14166797 10/20/21 07:52 PM
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I would recommend having a discussion with an engineering firm. In addition to the State rules on 200 acre foot impoundment limits, because you looking to dam up creeks you may have a US Army Corps or EPA issue if you have what are considered "wetlands" or "navigable waterways of the United States." I am dealing with a situation in East Texas where a neighbor built a +200acre foot impoundment, didn't have it engineered, the dam failed and significantly impacted downstream people. Needless to say it is a very expensive and nasty piece of litigation now. I can refer you to the engineers we are dealing with if you want to PM me. Measure twice on this for sure....

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I wouldn’t dam any of the creeks, you can’t control what gets in there when it floods.

My brother has a 5 acre tank that was built off a dammed up creek bed, now it’s loaded with gar.

He didn’t build it, bought it that way and didn’t realize that had happened til after.


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Re: Where to start building a 20-30 acre private lake [Re: rb7764] #14296496 02/25/22 12:27 PM
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I wouldn’t dam up a creek. You’ll be cutting off a downstream landowner who will need that water for livestock.

Re: Where to start building a 20-30 acre private lake [Re: rb7764] #14425591 07/20/22 08:39 PM
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How is the project going?

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