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Solar Panels
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07/24/21 02:38 AM
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patriot07
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Anyone have these? Purely interested in the financial cost/savings analysis. We are moving out to the country where nobody would see or care about them, especially if we put them on the back side of the house.
Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards. - Soren Kierkegaard
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Re: Solar Panels
[Re: patriot07]
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07/24/21 02:51 AM
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I ran across this guy a while back. Very informative.
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Re: Solar Panels
[Re: patriot07]
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07/24/21 03:07 AM
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I was thinking about it as well, as we have a couple of barns that would be ideal for collecting the suns rays. Was looking for an 8kW setup and after all was said and done, having Tesla come out, set it up along with two Tesla batteries for black outs was probably the cheapest way to go and I wouldn't have to touch a thing. Complete turn key and I'm getting to that age where, that doesn't bother me to much. I hear the incentive from the almighty Gov are going to be reduced at the end of the year too. Just hear say, if anyone can clear that up that would be awesome. More than anything, I just want back up power for when the power goes out and if my parents have some kind of life saving apparatus , it will be powered.
Side note, we're on a Co-Op power grid and so far, our highest electric bill has been a flat $100. So it would take a LONG time to recoup our savings. If I get rid of the water heaters in here eating up all the electric, I bet the monthly would be $30 in the lighter months. But I haven't fired up my shop yet either.
Laws won't fix a sin problem. What this world needs is a revival, change of the heart. ~The Skipper
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Re: Solar Panels
[Re: patriot07]
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07/24/21 03:25 AM
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The only person know who actually did it says over the year says the savings about equal the cost on the 25 year lone he has on them. He says you have bragging rights in the summer but not so much in the winter.
I am skeptical about batteries due to the very large cost of the necessary wiring, the cost of the batteries, and how long a battery would last as my understanding it is measured in hours. Generac with 500 gallon buried tank may be the better solution.
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Re: Solar Panels
[Re: BassFever]
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07/24/21 04:00 AM
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I've checked into doing the whole system myself and I could see that for a younger under 40 crowd. Couple of my good techie friends have already designed and laid out the plans for my 1.21 giga-watt station in my back yard. But when I compared the time invested in actually DOING all that work to what Tesla was doing turn key, it would be worth it in this scenario. One of the few things I would allow to be done by someone else. And like 176 said, in the end, it all works out about even if you ask me. Bought a generator last year for emergencies and when that big storm hit in Feb, we never lost power, thank you Jesus. If you're of the younger crowd and have the energy to do your own system, give it a whirl. I'd like to see the how and how not of how it all works. Roof penetrations, leaks, shorts...?
Laws won't fix a sin problem. What this world needs is a revival, change of the heart. ~The Skipper
Age is a number. Old is a lifestyle.
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Re: Solar Panels
[Re: patriot07]
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07/24/21 04:02 AM
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“I am skeptical about batteries due to the very large cost of the necessary wiring, the cost of the batteries, and how long a battery would last as my understanding it is measured in hours.”
This^^^^^^^^
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Re: Solar Panels
[Re: patriot07]
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07/24/21 04:02 AM
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I'm not putting that stuff on my house, no way
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Re: Solar Panels
[Re: patriot07]
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07/24/21 04:05 AM
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CKINCAID
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We void our homes 50year warranty if solar is installed on roofs. Washington state so 7 months of rain.
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Re: Solar Panels
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07/24/21 04:06 AM
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I'm not putting that stuff on my house, no way Permanent residents at the trailer park will build an awning over the trailer to keep the sun from directly hitting the roof. I kind of see the solar panel in the same light. It’s the metal awning for the suburban dweller who doesn’t want to look like trailer trash.
Last edited by Mudshark; 07/24/21 04:09 AM.
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Re: Solar Panels
[Re: patriot07]
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07/24/21 11:11 AM
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I do this on a small scale to keep an electric pure sine generator charged for camping trips and for running computers if the grid goes down. My gas powered generator at home is not pure sine wave ( modern electronics prefer sine wave power supplies). So, it’s nice to have a solar powered back up sine wave generator for situations where the gas stations are out of gas/diesel and the propane delivery truck isn’t coming) Portable pure sine wave power station— EcoFlow Delta $1100 Solar panel—HQST solar panel $80 2x1.5x1.5 steel cabinet mounting L brackets x4 —$10
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Re: Solar Panels
[Re: patriot07]
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07/24/21 11:19 AM
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I’d do some DIY solar power projects utilizing the roof of your house if you enjoy doing those sorts of projects.
The best argument for doing so isn’t cost savings, but some increased autonomy/independence from ERCOT.
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Re: Solar Panels
[Re: patriot07]
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07/24/21 11:29 AM
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hopalong
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generac/propane tank.
think bad hail storm, then power outage, how is your solar gonna hold up?
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Re: Solar Panels
[Re: patriot07]
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07/24/21 11:55 AM
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I’d do both; nice to have the max wattage of a propane or natural gas system and the independence from gas lines and propane trucks with the solar system.
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Re: Solar Panels
[Re: patriot07]
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07/24/21 12:10 PM
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My BIL put solar panels all over the roof of his house in austin a few years ago, and he used to brag about not having electric bills anymore. Fast forward to the snow storm this year, my house never lost power, he was having to go out to his truck to charge the families phones, and I was texting photos to him of light fixtures at my house, my gas stove cooking something, and the thermostat in my house. If there isn’t any sunlight for an extended period of time, solar panels are as worthless as tits on a boar hog
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