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Is John Cox nuts for fishing 3 tours or genius? #14054593 07/07/21 01:25 PM
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They do say any press is good press,

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Cox disqualified from Elite event

John Cox has had to make several decisions this year in regard to tournament participation as he's attempted to fish a rigorous three-tour schedule. Now one has been made for him: B.A.S.S. has ruled him ineligible for its season-ending Elite Series event at the St. Lawrence River, which gets under way July 15.

Cox was a Top-10 finisher in the recent MLF Bass Pro Tour event at that venue, the timeframe of which fell within the off-limits period for the Elite Series derby. He said he knew the situation he finds himself in was a possibility when he embarked on this journey, but there was still uncertainty about the New York events in late 2020, when he was making his plans, due to ongoing coronavirus concerns. He said he didn't get final confirmation from B.A.S.S. about the DQ until last week.

"I understand the rule, but I'm just disappointed with the outcome," he said. "I'm just kind of shocked that some way couldn't be found to work around it.

"I did bring it up at the beginning, but they (B.A.S.S.) weren't sure either. They said they'd look at it when it got closer, but it was never set in stone what it was going to be. At that time, nobody knew if we were even going to end up going (to New York)."

In a statement issued to BassFan late last week, B.A.S.S. emphasized that it won't alter its off-limits rule to accommodate an individual angler's schedule.

"The Bassmaster Elite Series competition rules are very clear that the off-limits period for events begins 28 days prior to the first practice day," the statement read. "B.A.S.S. is committed to maintaining the integrity of our tournaments by holding every angler to the same rules. Unfortunately, this is not the first time that an angler has been disqualified for violating the off-limits rule."

Cox bypassed two MLF Pro Circuit events (Lake Okeechobee and Lake Murray) in order to compete in Elite Series tournaments on those same dates. The DQ leaves him with virtually no chance of qualifying for either this year's Pro Circuit TITLE championship or the 2022 Bassmaster Classic via the respective points lists.

He's 37th in the Elite Series Angler of the Year standings going into this week's event at Lake Champlain (which he will participate in). He won the Pro Circuit derby at Lewis Smith Lake in March, but is 105th on that list due to having competed in only three of the five tournaments held thus far. He's 20th in the BPT points race and on track to qualify for the 2022 REDCREST.

Cox had petitioned his fellow Elite Series pros via email in an attempt to garner support for his cause. Two veteran Elite anglers contacted by BassFan said that most were supportive of Cox's unprecedented quest, but they were also in favor of the off-limits rule being upheld.

Upon the conclusion of the Champlain Elite event, he might remain at the lake for the Northern Division Toyota Series tournament (July 15-17) or may return to home. The progress of Tropical Storm Elsa, which is scheduled to reach Florida in the next day or so, will be a factor in that decision.

He said his current predicament won't deter him from competing on all three tours again next year.

"I'm sure there's going to be some that overlap, but I'll just be wiser about the ones I skip. I just want to be sure up front without any 'maybes.' If everything's good, I'm okay with skipping certain events."



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Re: Is John Cox nuts for fishing 3 tours or genius? [Re: SC-001] #14054617 07/07/21 01:48 PM
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While I think it’s cool what he’s doing and certainly admire him for trying, I’d also like to see him pick a tour, like BASS and focus on it and see how good he could be on it. Heck, fish the opens too. Just want to see how good this guy actually is, because I think he has a very special gift and he would be a contender for AOY if he dials in and focuses on 1-circuit.

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As long as no rules are broken, these guys are independent contractors paying entry fees ($200-300 for a BFL/MLF event, $5K for a BASS tourney). If he's legally able and has the desire to compete in three tours, I don't see an issue. Of course there are consequences, off limits regulations and scheduling conflicts are just a few as detailed above.


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Rules are rules but the organization's should get together and come up with Schedules that allow the guys to fish. He earns a living fishing and probably wants to maximize his opportunities. If you want to treat these guys like cattle, ie the nfl you better figure out a way they can make proper money fishing one trail.

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Sounds like be knocked himself out of the Classic and whatever they call the championship over at MLFLW/PBsT... Somedays your the bug and somedays your the windshield... Dan


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Re: Is John Cox nuts for fishing 3 tours or genius? [Re: Dan21XRS] #14054698 07/07/21 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan21XRS
Sounds like be knocked himself out of the Classic and whatever they call the championship over at MLFLW/PBsT... Somedays your the bug and somedays your the windshield... Dan

He is still in the cut for the BPT championship Redcrest, but out of the other two championships Classic and Title. I am fairly certain he would have won FLW AOY last year had he fished every event last year.

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Re: Is John Cox nuts for fishing 3 tours or genius? [Re: WAWI] #14054699 07/07/21 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by WAWI
Rules are rules but the organization's should get together and come up with Schedules that allow the guys to fish. He earns a living fishing and probably wants to maximize his opportunities. If you want to treat these guys like cattle, ie the nfl you better figure out a way they can make proper money fishing one trail.

I don't see them working together on schedules in near future when ones goal is to kill the other one off.

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He's awesome. That dude has done nothing but put himself at a disadvantage all year, and very unfortunate that he will not be able to fish.

Good news is, BASS implemented a drop for each angler's worst tournament, so he should still be in good shape for the classic.

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Originally Posted by Brandon Dickenson
He's awesome. That dude has done nothing but put himself at a disadvantage all year, and very unfortunate that he will not be able to fish.

Good news is, BASS implemented a drop for each angler's worst tournament, so he should still be in good shape for the classic.


Negative, he already has a 97th place finish so with this DQ he won't make Classic, I do think he has put more priority on the MLF side.

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He's awesome. That dude has done nothing but put himself at a disadvantage all year, and very unfortunate that he will not be able to fish.

Good news is, BASS implemented a drop for each angler's worst tournament, so he should still be in good shape for the classic.


Negative, he already has a 97th place finish so with this DQ he won't make Classic, I do think he has put more priority on the MLF side.


He's currently in 37th.... Why wouldn't he just drop the St Lawrence score, looks to be in good position to me unless I am missing something.

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I'm guessing you can't drop a DQ

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I'm kind of thrown off by the "drop your lowest"

Haven't seen that in an AOY race since my days in the local bass club.

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Originally Posted by SC-001
I'm guessing you can't drop a DQ


How are you DQ'd from an event 2 weeks before it starts? ineligible maybe. Well, if he can't use that as a drop, that's just stupid!

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I'm guessing you can't drop a DQ


How are you DQ'd from an event 2 weeks before it starts? ineligible maybe. Well, if he can't use that as a drop, that's just stupid!

He fished the the MLF St. Lawrence during BASS off limits.

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