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 Re: Constitutional carry
[Re: rj74955]
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05/07/21 01:00 PM
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Bigbob_FTW
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Seeing the direction these posts are going I sure hope this law doesn't pass till some of you settle down a bit. If not it's going to be a bloody mess around here. Was it a bloody mess in Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Idaho, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah, Vermont, West Virginia, or Wyoming? Just need Texas and Florida on that list. For freedom to continue to ring it has to include these, especially Texas. Absolutely.
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Re: Constitutional carry
[Re: rj74955]
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05/07/21 01:05 PM
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921 Phoenix
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Seeing the direction these posts are going I sure hope this law doesn't pass till some of you settle down a bit. If not it's going to be a bloody mess around here. Was it a bloody mess in Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Idaho, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah, Vermont, West Virginia, or Wyoming? Just need Texas and Florida on that list. For freedom to continue to ring it has to include these, especially Texas. we need all states on that list its a constitutional right for all, not just the states passing a few laws
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Re: Constitutional carry
[Re: 921 Phoenix]
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05/07/21 01:19 PM
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rj74955
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Seeing the direction these posts are going I sure hope this law doesn't pass till some of you settle down a bit. If not it's going to be a bloody mess around here. Was it a bloody mess in Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Idaho, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah, Vermont, West Virginia, or Wyoming? Just need Texas and Florida on that list. For freedom to continue to ring it has to include these, especially Texas. we need all states on that list its a constitutional right for all, not just the states passing a few laws I agree sir, but I was being realistic. Some are hopelessly lost.
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Re: Constitutional carry
[Re: basscat87]
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05/07/21 01:45 PM
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John175☮
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Here is what donothin wants and I'm onboard as long as the same rules apply to voting.
“Do not pray for easier lives. Pray to be stronger men.†-JFK
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Re: Constitutional carry
[Re: basscat87]
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05/07/21 01:49 PM
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Pat Goff
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Blah blah blah...
The bottom line?
An armed society is a polite society.
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Re: Constitutional carry
[Re: Pat Goff]
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05/07/21 01:50 PM
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Blah blah blah...
The bottom line?
An armed society is a polite society. yep AMEN
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Re: Constitutional carry
[Re: basscat87]
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05/07/21 01:56 PM
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Bigbob_FTW
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Re: Constitutional carry
[Re: drift4fish]
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05/07/21 04:34 PM
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Uncle Zeek
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I'm certainly not wanting to argue with anyone here, my point was, as soon as you tell the LE that you are carrying, he/she can disarm you for the duration of the stop. The law you just quoted specifically says, " If a license holder is carrying a handgun on or about the license holder's person when a magistrate or a peace officer demands that the license holder display identification, the license holder shall display both the license holder's driver's license or identification certificate issued by the department and the license holder's handgun license.
. What if you have your LTC but you are not carrying? Do you still have to show the LE the DOC? Seems to me, as soon as you present the LTC you are saying that you have a firearm on you. If LE asks me if I have a firearm in my vehicle, I'm telling them I have no duty to tell them either way. I don't know the laws in other states and can only speak of Colorado and the 4th amendment. As a law abiding citizen, I have very little interaction with the PoPo. If you are not armed, then there is no duty to provide your LTC to the officer. I've had one time where I was pulled over on my motorcycle, didn't have a firearm and only gave my drivers license to the cop. He ran it and came back to me asking whether I had a gun. Ever since then, I provide my LTC to law enforcement along with my drivers license even if I'm unarmed. Have not had a single instance of them wanting to take possession of my firearm(s) during such encounters.
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Re: Constitutional carry
[Re: lakeforkfisherman]
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05/07/21 07:14 PM
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Tsunami_1
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Ugh. 7 pages. Can someone summarize? Page (1) Started off with OT law experts mentioning you can deny LEO the opportunity to search your vehicle if you have a gun. Also found out we have lots of folks that get pulled over. (a lot) Page (2) LEO salaries were discussed. Killing off the "olds". Insults starting flying around including family members, specifically Mothers. Some "hate" talk. Page (3) Veterans got included in the "hate" talk. Constitution Amendments 1,2, and 4 get more discussion and 1 and 4 get battered pretty bad. Page (4) More legal discussion. Insults start to fly. More legal discussion about what happens "after" you shoot someone. Dog piling starts. A bloody mess is mentioned. Dan defends Donothin. Page (5) Talk of Armageddon if law passes. Hop post video of man with too much ammo. More law discussion. Dan defends Donothin Page (6) Cheap attempt at advertising for a good restaurant. More legal discussion. Hasn't happened at the time of this post but I'm sure Dan will be defending Donothin
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Re: Constitutional carry
[Re: basscat87]
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05/07/21 07:36 PM
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Indianation65
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I'm about to start reading from page 1 in hopes that I'll learn a thing or two!
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Re: Constitutional carry
[Re: Uncle Zeek]
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05/07/21 07:40 PM
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I'm certainly not wanting to argue with anyone here, my point was, as soon as you tell the LE that you are carrying, he/she can disarm you for the duration of the stop. The law you just quoted specifically says, " If a license holder is carrying a handgun on or about the license holder's person when a magistrate or a peace officer demands that the license holder display identification, the license holder shall display both the license holder's driver's license or identification certificate issued by the department and the license holder's handgun license.
. What if you have your LTC but you are not carrying? Do you still have to show the LE the DOC? Seems to me, as soon as you present the LTC you are saying that you have a firearm on you. If LE asks me if I have a firearm in my vehicle, I'm telling them I have no duty to tell them either way. I don't know the laws in other states and can only speak of Colorado and the 4th amendment. As a law abiding citizen, I have very little interaction with the PoPo. If you are not armed, then there is no duty to provide your LTC to the officer. I've had one time where I was pulled over on my motorcycle, didn't have a firearm and only gave my drivers license to the cop. He ran it and came back to me asking whether I had a gun. Ever since then, I provide my LTC to law enforcement along with my drivers license even if I'm unarmed. Have not had a single instance of them wanting to take possession of my firearm(s) during such encounters. It's on your DL and registration check in texas.....that you have a LTC
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Re: Constitutional carry
[Re: txmasterpo]
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05/07/21 11:52 PM
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Oldrabbit
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I'm certainly not wanting to argue with anyone here, my point was, as soon as you tell the LE that you are carrying, he/she can disarm you for the duration of the stop. The law you just quoted specifically says, " If a license holder is carrying a handgun on or about the license holder's person when a magistrate or a peace officer demands that the license holder display identification, the license holder shall display both the license holder's driver's license or identification certificate issued by the department and the license holder's handgun license.
. What if you have your LTC but you are not carrying? Do you still have to show the LE the DOC? Seems to me, as soon as you present the LTC you are saying that you have a firearm on you. If LE asks me if I have a firearm in my vehicle, I'm telling them I have no duty to tell them either way. I don't know the laws in other states and can only speak of Colorado and the 4th amendment. As a law abiding citizen, I have very little interaction with the PoPo. If you are not armed, then there is no duty to provide your LTC to the officer. I've had one time where I was pulled over on my motorcycle, didn't have a firearm and only gave my drivers license to the cop. He ran it and came back to me asking whether I had a gun. Ever since then, I provide my LTC to law enforcement along with my drivers license even if I'm unarmed. Have not had a single instance of them wanting to take possession of my firearm(s) during such encounters. It's on your DL and registration check in Texas.....that you have a LTC I have been pulled over 2 times since I got my LTC many years ago. Speeding in Arkansas (guilty) and in Texas (rent a car with no window sticker or current inspection) and both times I presented my DL, LTC and Insurance Card and informed them that I was carrying. Both times the officer asked where the weapon was, told me not to reach where it was and then relaxed. Oh, and 1 time as a passenger, I had my DL and LTC out and in the drivers hands when the officer came to the window. Hands on the top of my head, fingers interlocked. The officer laughed and said thanks.
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Re: Constitutional carry
[Re: John175☮]
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05/09/21 11:52 PM
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chickenman
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Here is what donothin wants and I'm onboard as long as the same rules apply to voting. I've been thinking about this video for a few days. They either polled a real left leaning urban group to get their %s or are outright lyin.
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Re: Constitutional carry
[Re: basscat87]
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05/10/21 12:12 AM
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Fishspanker
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What is everyone doing to get pulled over so much?I have been pulled over maybe twice in the last 20 years. In favor of Constitutional carry. Should let you carry beyond your home, vehicle, boat, business, etc.
The Sheep who only fears the Wolf is eaten by the Shepherd.
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Re: Constitutional carry
[Re: Pat Goff]
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05/10/21 12:22 PM
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GarySHO
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Blah blah blah...
The bottom line?
An armed society is a polite society. Exactly. I've been in a couple war zones and while everyone had ammo, all was good no one being a tool. Except for the guys that wanted to kill you.
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