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Re: Constitutional carry [Re: Bigbob_FTW] #13988187 05/06/21 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigbob_FTW
Originally Posted by banker-always fishing
Originally Posted by elcoyote, esq.
I for one would like to talk more about the olds dying.

Once they are gone, will that stupid law about not being allowed to buy beer before noon on Sunday go away? If so, I’m all for the olds dying. Sorry, both Bobs.




I would stick to the topic about renewing a CHL. Talking by Old's dying is not a good idea!


he hates olds and veterans. probably kicks dogs too. whip

grin I think he is just yanking some chains, as the old saying goes.


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Re: Constitutional carry [Re: Bigbob_FTW] #13988188 05/06/21 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigbob_FTW
Originally Posted by banker-always fishing
Originally Posted by elcoyote, esq.
I for one would like to talk more about the olds dying.

Once they are gone, will that stupid law about not being allowed to buy beer before noon on Sunday go away? If so, I’m all for the olds dying. Sorry, both Bobs.




I would stick to the topic about renewing a CHL. Talking by Old's dying is not a good idea!


he hates olds and veterans. probably kicks dogs too. whip


Just because I hate myself doesn’t mean that I hate all veterans.

I did go on a cruise to Alaska just so I could club baby seals once. So satisfying.


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Re: Constitutional carry [Re: basscat87] #13988193 05/06/21 05:32 PM
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I don't think I've read this in the Constitution...
"the right to bear arms" ( for a fee).

So, no on the chl.


Re: Constitutional carry [Re: Bob Davis] #13988199 05/06/21 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Davis
Originally Posted by Streater
All they need is your LTC. Think about it, Hop. You get pulled over by some angry police officer, who thinks you're racist because you're white. "I needed to secure his weapon" is all they need to search. Is this not the case?

BTW, I apologize for that previous comment Bob. That was out of line. I am sorry.


No problem Streater. thumb cheers

This^^ whole saga is an excellent example of how to wish for the extermination of a man and his generation, and still end up on friendly terms. Kudos to you both!

Re: Constitutional carry [Re: Hookem] #13988201 05/06/21 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Hookem
I don't think I've read this in the Constitution...
"the right to bear arms" ( for a fee).

So, no on the chl.


exactly.


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Re: Constitutional carry [Re: basscat87] #13988218 05/06/21 05:50 PM
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Hard to believe.
Something good for the people finally happened.

Maybe there is hope.


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Cut with her golden oars the silver stream,
And greedily devour the treacherous bait.
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Re: Constitutional carry [Re: reeltexan] #13988240 05/06/21 06:03 PM
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Hard to believe.
Something good for the people finally happened.

Maybe there is hope.

It’s just a distraction. This is all happening as the CAD’s are sending out appraisals. roflmao

Re: Constitutional carry [Re: basscat87] #13988244 05/06/21 06:06 PM
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That store in Azle was a Winn Dixie, they sold beer from the produce section because it was in tarrant county


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Re: Constitutional carry [Re: banker-always fishing] #13988246 05/06/21 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by banker-always fishing
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So if it is truly "constitutional carry" everyone has a right to carry?

Or is it going to be "statutory carry" where there are limitations placed on a person's right to constitutionally carry? And it is up to the legislature to decide on what limitations are acceptable and what limitations are not?




Convicted felons do not have the right to carry. They lost it! eeks



So there are/were limits in the Constitution on who has the right to bear arms and who doesn't and felons are one of the groups that don't? Or is that a limitation that has come after the fact from someone (legislators at some level) making a decision about it that (the majority of) people are okay with, but those same people are not okay with other limitations (like a fee, like having to show your proficiency, etc.)?? Sorry, I am just trying to understand what limitations are allowed and what limitations are not?

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Originally Posted by bassfishinglawyer
Originally Posted by banker-always fishing
Originally Posted by bassfishinglawyer
So if it is truly "constitutional carry" everyone has a right to carry?

Or is it going to be "statutory carry" where there are limitations placed on a person's right to constitutionally carry? And it is up to the legislature to decide on what limitations are acceptable and what limitations are not?




Convicted felons do not have the right to carry. They lost it! eeks



So there are/were limits in the Constitution on who has the right to bear arms and who doesn't and felons are one of the groups that don't? Or is that a limitation that has come after the fact from someone (legislators at some level) making a decision about it that (the majority of) people are okay with, but those same people are not okay with other limitations (like a fee, like having to show your proficiency, etc.)?? Sorry, I am just trying to understand what limitations are allowed and what limitations are not?


The 2nd amendment is the only right that can be denied based on behavior. But recent events lead me to believe the first and fourth are getting battered.

Re: Constitutional carry [Re: Bigbob_FTW] #13988260 05/06/21 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigbob_FTW
Originally Posted by Hookem
I don't think I've read this in the Constitution...
"the right to bear arms" ( for a fee).

So, no on the chl.


exactly.


User fees are common and accepted unless they become onerous.

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Originally Posted by TR176
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Originally Posted by Hookem
I don't think I've read this in the Constitution...
"the right to bear arms" ( for a fee).

So, no on the chl.


exactly.


User fees are common and accepted unless they become onerous.


I know of no other constitutional amendment that requires a fee to exercise.


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Re: Constitutional carry [Re: Bob Davis] #13988267 05/06/21 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Davis
Originally Posted by Streater
Originally Posted by hopalong
Originally Posted by Brad Hardt
Won't we still need ltc to carry into other states? So I guess I will




this, already have it so why not renew it?


Because you forfeit your 4th amendment right. Cops don't need probable cause if you hold a LTC. "I'm looking for a handgun" is all they need.



roflmao I've had my LTC for 21 years. Been traffic stopped, no problems. But then, I don't have a 5 mile long rap sheet either.

Never been an issue for me either. If anything the officers have been more chill once I tell them.

Re: Constitutional carry [Re: Bigbob_FTW] #13988270 05/06/21 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigbob_FTW
elcoyote, your just made cause Okies are ahead of texas in every piece of major legislation. weed, gambling, CC carry. we don't have blue counties, or purple for that matter. God's country.

Football, ahead of you in football also...lol

Re: Constitutional carry [Re: Sawhorse] #13988288 05/06/21 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Sawhorse
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All they need is your LTC. Think about it, Hop. You get pulled over by some angry police officer, who thinks you're racist because you're white. "I needed to secure his weapon" is all they need to search. Is this not the case?

BTW, I apologize for that previous comment Bob. That was out of line. I am sorry.


No problem Streater. thumb cheers

This^^ whole saga is an excellent example of how to wish for the extermination of a man and his generation, and still end up on friendly terms. Kudos to you both!



Well, I was kind of a [censored]. laugh

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