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Re: Constitutional carry [Re: John175☮] #13987808 05/06/21 12:46 PM
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It'll probably die in the conference committee. They only have till may 31st to come to agreement and foot dragging will commence. Republicans will say "we tried" but those wraskely democrats stopped us.


This. Never underestimate the ability of "conservative" Republicans like Lieutenant Governor Dannie Goeb Dan Patrick to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Re: Constitutional carry [Re: basscat87] #13987861 05/06/21 01:23 PM
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Re: Constitutional carry [Re: Laker One] #13987862 05/06/21 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Laker One
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He said the other day that he'll sign it.

Who will still renew their LTC?




I will if Texas continues having the LTC. noidea


Yep. Same here.


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Re: Constitutional carry [Re: hopalong] #13987863 05/06/21 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by hopalong
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Won't we still need ltc to carry into other states? So I guess I will




this, already have it so why not renew it?


Because you forfeit your 4th amendment right. Cops don't need probable cause if you hold a LTC. "I'm looking for a handgun" is all they need.

Re: Constitutional carry [Re: Streater] #13987872 05/06/21 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Streater
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Won't we still need ltc to carry into other states? So I guess I will




this, already have it so why not renew it?


Because you forfeit your 4th amendment right. Cops don't need probable cause if you hold a LTC. "I'm looking for a handgun" is all they need.



roflmao I've had my LTC for 21 years. Been traffic stopped, no problems. But then, I don't have a 5 mile long rap sheet either.


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Re: Constitutional carry [Re: Bob Davis] #13987876 05/06/21 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Davis
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Won't we still need ltc to carry into other states? So I guess I will




this, already have it so why not renew it?


Because you forfeit your 4th amendment right. Cops don't need probable cause if you hold a LTC. "I'm looking for a handgun" is all they need.



roflmao I've had my LTC for 21 years. Been traffic stopped, no problems. But then, I don't have a 5 mile long rap sheet either.


I don't either. I still don't want some cop going through my car. You're a good sheep. When your generation dies off, the world will be a much better place.

Re: Constitutional carry [Re: basscat87] #13987884 05/06/21 01:46 PM
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I will renew mine as well. Not a sheep, LTC is needed in other states and I travel a lot. When our generation dies off this world will the pits of hell.


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Re: Constitutional carry [Re: basscat87] #13987885 05/06/21 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Streater
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Because you forfeit your 4th amendment right. Cops don't need probable cause if you hold a LTC. "I'm looking for a handgun" is all they need.



roflmao I've had my LTC for 21 years. Been traffic stopped, no problems. But then, I don't have a 5 mile long rap sheet either.


I don't either. I still don't want some cop going through my car. You're a good sheep. When your generation dies off, the world will be a much better place.


Why would they go through your car? You get pulled over you hand the cop your CCL and they ask do you have a gun. You say yes and the cop will ask to see it unloaded. You hand it to him. What or why would they need to search your car.

I have handed the CCL many times and they just hand it back, nothing happens. The thugs or people trying to hide something or acting odd will be check, us olds are very respectful and do what is asked so we have no problems with the cops. The young thugs are the ones worried about getting their car searched.

I for one will be glad to be gone so we don't have to listen to the young thugs insults or telling us they we be glad when we are gone. The last generation with the balls to fight and work.

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Re: Constitutional carry [Re: basscat87] #13987889 05/06/21 01:47 PM
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Cops have to have probable cause to pull you over... you have to have been breaking the law while driving for them to pull you over... they just can't say i think he has a gun.. .. duh..... come on man!!


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Well said 921 Phoenix!!


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In the 20+ years I've had a CCL/LTC I've been stopped about 5 times. Not once did they ever ask to see my weapon or ask me to unload it and hand it over. And they never searched me or the vehicle nor did they ask to. Oh, and out of those 5 or so stops, I got 0 tickets.


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Re: Constitutional carry [Re: Texan Til I Die] #13987917 05/06/21 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Texan Til I Die
In the 20+ years I've had a CCL/LTC I've been stopped about 5 times. Not once did they ever ask to see my weapon or ask me to unload it and hand it over. And they never searched me or the vehicle nor did they ask to. Oh, and out of those 5 or so stops, I got 0 tickets.



I should point out my main pistol in my car is right by my leg and the cop could see it. I have only had too handed it to them a few times. I have been stop more than 50 times in last 20 years of driving. heavy foot. I have had them ask me most of the times if I had a gun in the truck many of those times. I live in Wyoming and most everyone here has guns the cops expect everyone has a gun.

Re: Constitutional carry [Re: Streater] #13987924 05/06/21 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Streater
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Won't we still need ltc to carry into other states? So I guess I will




this, already have it so why not renew it?


Because you forfeit your 4th amendment right. Cops don't need probable cause if you hold a LTC. "I'm looking for a handgun" is all they need.

Show me where it says that in any law


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Re: Constitutional carry [Re: basscat87] #13987939 05/06/21 02:21 PM
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All they need is your LTC. Think about it, Hop. You get pulled over by some angry police officer, who thinks you're racist because you're white. "I needed to secure his weapon" is all they need to search. Is this not the case?

BTW, I apologize for that previous comment Bob. That was out of line. I am sorry.

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