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Re: New Ford 7.3 gas engine [Re: redchevy] #13952169 04/08/21 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by redchevy
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I’ll go back to gas eventually. If you trade in often and can afford it, diesel is great. But if you tend to keep them for awhile, these new emission parts just cost too much to repair. Yeah, delete...but then it’s a new can of worms.

I look every week on fords site for a 7.3 with the configuration that I’m after, seems to be very elusive right now. Starting to think I should just order one.


Agree. I also think the way things are going deleting will be less and less of a viable option. Many tuners are being shut down, I see the end of it coming.

I had the DPF replaced in my RAM 1500 diesel last week. Fortunately it was all covered under warranty, but the dealers cost if I was going to have to pay for it was $4,300. Gas looks better by the second.

Holy goodness.

How was that under warranty? Is emissions an 8-year warranty or something like that? Your ED is a 2015 I think?


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Re: New Ford 7.3 gas engine [Re: grout-scout] #13952177 04/08/21 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by grout-scout
I’ll go back to gas eventually. If you trade in often and can afford it, diesel is great. But if you tend to keep them for awhile, these new emission parts just cost too much to repair. Yeah, delete...but then it’s a new can of worms.

I look every week on fords site for a 7.3 with the configuration that I’m after, seems to be very elusive right now. Starting to think I should just order one.

That's a fair point regarding the emissions stuff, but there are lots of modern diesels with hundreds of thousands of miles and no emissions failures. It happens, but it's not like it's a guarantee or anything. The problem, as redchevy said, is that when it does happen, it costs a fortune to repair.


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Re: New Ford 7.3 gas engine [Re: Garland A.] #13952183 04/08/21 12:50 PM
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Most of the fuel system and exhaust system is covered under the AEM warranty.

Im not sure what happened, but my truck never ran a regen after I had the AEM completed. I put close to 2000 miles on it and it never did a passive regen and never got any messages. I got a CEL, and then shortly after I got the 100% DPF full message. Im pretty sure they did something to mess up the programming or something when they installed it, or thats just how big a piece of carp the AEM tune is, I have never had a regen message before as I get on the HWY daily and tow somewhat frequently on the hwy as well.

Re: New Ford 7.3 gas engine [Re: patriot07] #13953131 04/09/21 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by patriot07
Originally Posted by grout-scout
I’ll go back to gas eventually. If you trade in often and can afford it, diesel is great. But if you tend to keep them for awhile, these new emission parts just cost too much to repair. Yeah, delete...but then it’s a new can of worms.

I look every week on fords site for a 7.3 with the configuration that I’m after, seems to be very elusive right now. Starting to think I should just order one.

That's a fair point regarding the emissions stuff, but there are lots of modern diesels with hundreds of thousands of miles and no emissions failures. It happens, but it's not like it's a guarantee or anything. The problem, as redchevy said, is that when it does happen, it costs a fortune to repair.



Yep, it’s a gamble no matter what. My diesel gets 12.5-13.5mpg, so going to a gas motor should be a money savings, just because the fuel cost, oil changes & fuel filters. I was told that I should get 17-19 mpg when I purchased it... bang

Re: New Ford 7.3 gas engine [Re: Garland A.] #13953166 04/09/21 01:52 AM
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Same here when I purchased my ‘20 3.5 ecoboost. All the reviews sold me on the towing capability & the gas mileage when not towing. Towing is great, but disappointed in the 13-15mpg around town. Thinking I might as well have the 3/4 ton capability when I need it & get almost similar mileage with the 7.3 gasser.


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Re: New Ford 7.3 gas engine [Re: Garland A.] #13953211 04/09/21 02:36 AM
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Yeah the 2500 trucks don't get great mpg around town, but they definitely do better on the highway. Stopping and starting 4+ tons of vehicle takes a lot of fuel, no matter what.

It's just a night/day difference between the 5.7 or 6.4 Hemi and the Duramax. The Ford 7.3 specs show it's basically the same thing as the 6.4 at any reasonable RPM, and they're just not even the same vehicle as an HD diesel.


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Re: New Ford 7.3 gas engine [Re: Garland A.] #13955322 04/10/21 10:36 PM
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Quit drinking the coolaid most do not need diesel trucks unless towing heavy loads.
Most keep their trucks past any warranty that’s when it gets scary. I just wish they would offer the 3.5 ecoboost in. F 250 I’d buy one.
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Re: New Ford 7.3 gas engine [Re: basscaster46] #13962892 04/16/21 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by basscaster46
Quit drinking the coolaid most do not need diesel trucks unless towing heavy loads.
Most keep their trucks past any warranty that’s when it gets scary. I just wish they would offer the 3.5 ecoboost in. F 250 I’d buy one.
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I could not have voiced it better. Had two 3.5 Ecoboosts and think it would be awesome in a 250. Currnetly looking at Super duties with the 7.3L 90% of the folks I know that drive diesels would be equally or better served with a gas engine.


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Originally Posted by Cmack
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Quit drinking the coolaid most do not need diesel trucks unless towing heavy loads.
Most keep their trucks past any warranty that’s when it gets scary. I just wish they would offer the 3.5 ecoboost in. F 250 I’d buy one.
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I could not have voiced it better. Had two 3.5 Ecoboosts and think it would be awesome in a 250. Currnetly looking at Super duties with the 7.3L 90% of the folks I know that drive diesels would be equally or better served with a gas engine.

I’ve thought they might make the ecoboost base engine for at least a 250.
Diesel engines are torque monsters but with def and all related issues I’ll pass.
Not to mention don’t need one. But a 250 with the ecoboost yes sign me up .


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Originally Posted by basscaster46
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Quit drinking the coolaid most do not need diesel trucks unless towing heavy loads.
Most keep their trucks past any warranty that’s when it gets scary. I just wish they would offer the 3.5 ecoboost in. F 250 I’d buy one.
J. D


I could not have voiced it better. Had two 3.5 Ecoboosts and think it would be awesome in a 250. Currnetly looking at Super duties with the 7.3L 90% of the folks I know that drive diesels would be equally or better served with a gas engine.

I’ve thought they might make the ecoboost base engine for at least a 250.
Diesel engines are torque monsters but with def and all related issues I’ll pass.
Not to mention don’t need one. But a 250 with the ecoboost yes sign me up .



I completely agree, I can’t figure out why they won’t make one. I don’t need to tow 15k lbs, I just need to be able to put 2k lbs in the bed of the truck every couple of days. An eco boost in a 3/4 ton would be awesome.


I guess they’d have some goober trying to haul a triple axle toy hauler with it though and then that goober would proceed to bash ford for having too small of a motor.


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Grout, do they still make a heavy payload F150? I remember looking at the specs on them in the past and they had more payload than a lot of fancy F250's.

I'm with y'all I would absolutely consider a 3/4 ton ecoboost either the 3.5 or a slightly beefier/larger displacement variant. Hell there are already goobers out there trying to haul a triple axle toy hauler with an F150 and an ecoboost, just give 'em the platform to do it. Ecoboosts are power houses, they way outperform all the gas big block options of yester year in towing performance. I would love to see an inline 6 "ecoboost" in a 3/4 ton.

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Grout, do they still make a heavy payload F150? I remember looking at the specs on them in the past and they had more payload than a lot of fancy F250's.

I'm with y'all I would absolutely consider a 3/4 ton ecoboost either the 3.5 or a slightly beefier/larger displacement variant. Hell there are already goobers out there trying to haul a triple axle toy hauler with an F150 and an ecoboost, just give 'em the platform to do it. Ecoboosts are power houses, they way outperform all the gas big block options of yester year in towing performance. I would love to see an inline 6 "ecoboost" in a 3/4 ton.


I hear you on the inline 6 EcoBoost. Something similar to the old 300 block, except OHC/DFI/VVT/ boosted. What a beast that'd be.


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Grout, do they still make a heavy payload F150? I remember looking at the specs on them in the past and they had more payload than a lot of fancy F250's.

I'm with y'all I would absolutely consider a 3/4 ton ecoboost either the 3.5 or a slightly beefier/larger displacement variant. Hell there are already goobers out there trying to haul a triple axle toy hauler with an F150 and an ecoboost, just give 'em the platform to do it. Ecoboosts are power houses, they way outperform all the gas big block options of yester year in towing performance. I would love to see an inline 6 "ecoboost" in a 3/4 ton.



I have not read about one in existence. I remember years ago, Chevrolet had a light duty 3/4 ton, never seen anything from ford like that.

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Mid to late 90s Ford built an F250 on a F150 chassis and body. The only difference was the springs and payload capacity. The F250 as we know it now became the Superduty F250. IIRC this was only done one model year.


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Originally Posted by grout-scout
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Grout, do they still make a heavy payload F150? I remember looking at the specs on them in the past and they had more payload than a lot of fancy F250's.

I'm with y'all I would absolutely consider a 3/4 ton ecoboost either the 3.5 or a slightly beefier/larger displacement variant. Hell there are already goobers out there trying to haul a triple axle toy hauler with an F150 and an ecoboost, just give 'em the platform to do it. Ecoboosts are power houses, they way outperform all the gas big block options of yester year in towing performance. I would love to see an inline 6 "ecoboost" in a 3/4 ton.



I have not read about one in existence. I remember years ago, Chevrolet had a light duty 3/4 ton, never seen anything from ford like that.

Ford had a heavy payload option in the F150's in the 1990's and I know they still had it in 2011 when the ecoboost came out.

The 90's models ones had a 7 lug wheel, not sure about the later version.

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