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Imported Shrimp for catfish bait against the law???
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05/04/21 03:36 PM
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milton1allen
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OK I saw on TPWD and Lynns Catfish Calendar that its against the law to use imported shrimp in Texas. Does anyone know where the TV Bait Shrimp come from that you buy in the frozen section of the grocery store?
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Re: Imported Shrimp for catfish bait against the law???
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05/04/21 04:30 PM
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These? Before your post, I would've assumed they were from the Gulf of Mexico (Aransas Pass and all that), but now I honestly don't know. ![[Linked Image]](https://texasfishingforum.com/forums/pics/userpics/2021/05/full-13826-95193-tv_bait_shrimp.jpg)
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Re: Imported Shrimp for catfish bait against the law???
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05/04/21 04:46 PM
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Wild caught product of USA. ![[Linked Image]](https://texasfishingforum.com/forums/pics/userpics/2021/05/full-99544-95196-9d68a070_819c_49f8_8328_3e61d46d47be.jpeg)
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Re: Imported Shrimp for catfish bait against the law???
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05/04/21 05:57 PM
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Photo says Dist. by Gulf King Seafood in Aransas Pass Texas. I assume these are legal to use in Texas? I am going to call and get more information. I will post what I find out.
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Re: Imported Shrimp for catfish bait against the law???
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05/04/21 06:05 PM
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Photo says product of USA. Seems pretty clear cut to me.
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Re: Imported Shrimp for catfish bait against the law???
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05/04/21 06:20 PM
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Photo says product of USA. Seems pretty clear cut to me. Here's the language from TPWD that makes me unsure: "Only use shrimp native to the Gulf of Mexico Shrimp is a popular choice to use for bait when fishing, but not all shrimp species can be used as bait. Never use imported frozen shrimp in Texas waters. Imported shrimp includes all shrimp species not native to the Gulf of Mexico, including shrimp from other countries like Venezuela, or Thailand or from other non-Gulf states like California. Shrimp from a non-Gulf state or different country is considered imported and can not be used as bait." I would assume that since the distributor is in Aransas Pass that the shrimp are from the Gulf of Mexico, but it's not 100% sure from the label. "Product of USA" could be other US waters. This is my long-winded way of saying "I don't know the right answer here"
"Decency is not news; it is buried in the obituaries --but it is a force stronger than crime" ~ Robert A. Heinlein Artim Law Firm, PLLC Estate planning & tax attorney 190 Civic Circle, Suite 260, Lewisville, TX 75067 972-746-0758 mobile zac@artimlegal.com
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Re: Imported Shrimp for catfish bait against the law???
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05/04/21 06:32 PM
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If they came from California they would cost $23 instead of $3. I’d bet the house they came from the Gulf. Anybody want to take the wager?
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Re: Imported Shrimp for catfish bait against the law???
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05/04/21 09:22 PM
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Kinda what I was thinking also Uncle Zeek. Not exactly "cut and dried" I been using this bait shrimp a long time so I hope it is not against the law now.
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Re: Imported Shrimp for catfish bait against the law???
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05/04/21 11:26 PM
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Frozen shrimp sold as bait and purchased locally are usually ok. The issue came up from people buying shrimp that are for human consumption, including fresh, and using them as bait. The shrimp can spread white spot syndrome virus. It was discovered that the virus can survive being frozen. The introduction could devastate the native shrimp population in the Gulf of Mexico and has wiped out entire stocks of shrimp growers.
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Re: Imported Shrimp for catfish bait against the law???
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05/05/21 04:39 AM
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Best way is probably write or contact via phone or internet or email the shrimp company to get specifics. Terminology can be twisted ever so easily. As one of the TP&W secretaries/office personnel once told me. They cannot legally explain the rules. Only a Game Warden can, as they interpret the law (or get told from upline when issued).
I just happen to spot a little block of this notice in the TP&W mag a few months back & have posted it for the last 3 months or so. I figure everybody hopefully by now will know of these new rules.
I miss my printed rulebook. Getting ready to go after "The Giant" again in June (fingers crossed), I went thru the TP&W rules online printing items in the past two weeks, of items that pertain to me, fishing, and boats & motors, as well. Boy do I have a lot of questions to get clarified by a Game Warden very soon. It seems now to catch turtles (such as softshells), you have to have a hunting license. OK, but does that allow you to still catch them on set lines. All of the past few years new rules on Gator Gars, are they now a game fish & does that mean you can no longer take them on a set line. That is just the tip of the iceberg.
So you can see, every time they come up with a new rule, it can open up a can of worms, so to speak, because of the ramnifications and all the angles.
Lynn aka "Catfish"
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Re: Imported Shrimp for catfish bait against the law???
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05/10/21 02:56 PM
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Lynn you bring up a good point about the gator gar. If you do set lines let's use 20 set lines as an example and you catch 3 gator gar you are only allowed to harvest 1 a day. Sometimes when it's really hot the fish do not survive being on the line overnight. You couldn't legally harvest the other 2 and leaving them to float would be unethical not to mention in violation of the waste of game laws. This scenario happened to me years ago when i used to set lines but luckily there were no regulations back then. Another question for the game warden
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Re: Imported Shrimp for catfish bait against the law???
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05/11/21 04:48 AM
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Yes, sadly, sometimes gars die fast, for no reason. They are like sharks, if they stop moving too long, they croak. It seems now you have to have a hunting license for turtles. That's another one. Since that is the case, is it legal to catch a softshell turtle on a set line now on. Normally you either catch a frog by spear, gig, or hand, not on any kind of a line. So when thewy went to hunting license to get frogs, that was a no-brainer there. But turtles are a different game.
I have a whole page of questions. It is my cousin's MonArk 14 footer & motor I plan to use soon. I think I had to p/u 3 separate forms. One to get her to sign so I can renew the stickers & two, one each for change of her address on the boat & also the motor. But the office personnel was really nice. Since no Game Warden was in to get answers, she looked up the one who is assigned to Limestone county, as I should be fishing in that area of Lake Limestone. It actually is in 3 counties in all. So I have his phone number to buzz & ask my questions.
Lynn aka "Catfish"
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Re: Imported Shrimp for catfish bait against the law???
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05/11/21 04:49 AM
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Did anybody ever look up TV brand shrimp to get a conmtact number or address for a definitive answer?
Lynn aka "Catfish"
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Re: Imported Shrimp for catfish bait against the law???
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05/11/21 11:11 AM
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Did anybody ever look up TV brand shrimp to get a conmtact number or address for a definitive answer? I tried calling their offices yesterday. No reply. May try sending a written inquiry, as I'm sincerely curious about the answer.
"Decency is not news; it is buried in the obituaries --but it is a force stronger than crime" ~ Robert A. Heinlein Artim Law Firm, PLLC Estate planning & tax attorney 190 Civic Circle, Suite 260, Lewisville, TX 75067 972-746-0758 mobile zac@artimlegal.com
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Re: Imported Shrimp for catfish bait against the law???
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05/11/21 04:27 PM
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They are in every bait store on the Texas coast guys and have been my entire life. I prefer the fresh dead’s for catching my shark baits when I’m down there . Sometimes we’ve had to use TV brand when the storms were approaching and the bait shops were empty of fresh. TV Bait Shrimp are also in every freshwater bait store in Texas that has frozen bait as well and have been for at least 40 yrs. I’m betting the #1 bait shrimp in Texas is legal.
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