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Re: NPFL on Patman [Re: James Biggs] #13970729 04/23/21 08:25 AM
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Donnie O'neil sittin near the top, Central Texas guy, fished a lot against him in the TTZ trails, rootin for him.


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Re: NPFL on Patman [Re: James Biggs] #13970799 04/23/21 11:50 AM
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Anyone know why River Lees weight got zeroed?

Re: NPFL on Patman [Re: Jwallace] #13970928 04/23/21 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Jwallace
Anyone know why River Lees weight got zeroed?



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After rules infraction, his 3rd place weight on day one was disqualified.

By Justin Brouillard

After a great start to the event on Wright Patman, an unintentional mistake cost River Lee his day one catch of 22-pounds. Lee was in 3rd place after day one but was informed after the weigh-in that he had made a rules infraction. At the young age of 20-years old, Lee was in contention for a big finish on a body of water that sets up to his strengths. After a couple hours to think and have a meal with his family, Lee understands the rule and made a mistake in the heat of the moment.

“I was fishing this morning doing my thing when a buddy of mine pulled up to watch me fish. He followed me for a while, watched me lose a few key fish, and even was there when I caught the 4-pounder to get me back in the day.”

Lee could hear his friend Todd, who made famous by the Live Coverage crew, watching live coverage and without thinking, asked how his good friend, and fellow competitor was doing. Mike Yoder was the local favorite coming into this event and Lee and Yoder are close.

“I didn’t even think about it at all. I asked Todd how Yoder was doing. When Todd told me he only had 14-pounds, I knew that was way less than he should have and I might have cursed on Live Coverage a bit.”

Lee could be heard saying “Damn Yoder, get your [censored] together.”

“I didn’t even think anything of it, and I never mentioned it again. Knowing Mike’s weight didn’t help me, it didn’t give me any advantage. I knew Mike had high hopes and I was just hoping he would win. I either wanted me to win, or Mike to win. “

Lee proceeded to fish hard and put enough together to claim the 3rd place spot. As disappointed as he was, Lee understands his mistake and just wants anyone to know that he knows the rules, and follows the rules at all times.

“I don’t want people to think I did this intentionally. Anyone that watched knows it was an honest mistake. I have never cheated. I had a good friend watching and we were just talking. He was watching me fish. I should have known the full extent and I will learn from it. I kept fishing bushes like I was doing. And that was it.”

When I spoke to River Lee several hours after the weigh-in, he was disappointed but knew his tournament is far from over. There was work to be done and he told me he needs every single AOY point possible and plans to fish his heart out the rest of the event.

“What could have been will haunt me if I catch enough to have had a shot to win, but it is what it is. I have work to do and I am going to go after them tomorrow.”

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Re: NPFL on Patman [Re: James Biggs] #13970972 04/23/21 01:59 PM
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Yes that's gaining information although harmlessly

Re: NPFL on Patman [Re: MagFluker] #13970984 04/23/21 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by MagFluker
Donnie O'neil sittin near the top, Central Texas guy, fished a lot against him in the TTZ trails, rootin for him.




Was he was involved in some kind of on the water train-wreck drama a few years back?


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Re: NPFL on Patman [Re: James Biggs] #13970996 04/23/21 02:21 PM
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Boy got DQed for two cuss words????? That's about the snowflakiest pansie [censored] bull [censored] I've ever heard


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Re: NPFL on Patman [Re: txmasterpo] #13971020 04/23/21 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by txmasterpo
Boy got DQed for two cuss words????? That's about the snowflakiest pansie [censored] bull [censored] I've ever heard


It wasn't for the cuss words.

Re: NPFL on Patman [Re: James Biggs] #13971022 04/23/21 02:36 PM
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Did NPFL shorten the day too like Bassmaster? I would say WP is more in the bullseye for severe weather than Fork is.

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Re: NPFL on Patman [Re: txmasterpo] #13971030 04/23/21 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by txmasterpo
Boy got DQed for two cuss words????? That's about the snowflakiest pansie [censored] bull [censored] I've ever heard

I believe the DQ was for getting info on another competitor during the competition and not the curse words.


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Re: NPFL on Patman [Re: James Biggs] #13971065 04/23/21 02:57 PM
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I don't weigh in (no pun intended) on this stuff often, and I consider River a friend, so I have some bias. That said this is not a rules infraction that should be that punitive. If a guy touches the sand in a bunker unintentionally and the camera catches it he is penalized one stroke, even if he subsequently signs an incorrect scorecard. Fishing needs to emulate other sports that have proven track records of success. There are intentional rules infractions that absolutely warrant disqualification, and in some cases banning. This was not one, and it cost the young man not just a potential high finish but potential sponsor dollars because of a high finish, or an AOY opportunity, We already have these "measured" penalties for unintended violations as you get a 1/2 pound or pound penalty for dead fish, there needs to be some common sense here.

One more thing, can the announcers not hear the anglers? I love on BASS when the angler starts talking the announcers quit, these guys continue to talk over the anglers, I'm not tuning in to hear the announcers...


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Re: NPFL on Patman [Re: James Biggs] #13971070 04/23/21 03:00 PM
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Make some good points, this may have been done just to get some press

Re: NPFL on Patman [Re: James Biggs] #13971107 04/23/21 03:20 PM
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He broke a rule but most trails it is up to the tournament director to make the call on what punishment/penalty is dealt out. I guess this trail is very cut and dry and this rules violation results in that days catch being DQed regardless if any advantage was gained on the field. Although, there could have been an advantage gained since they are friends and he probably knew where and how his friend was fishing.

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Originally Posted by KenTx1962
I don't weigh in (no pun intended) on this stuff often, and I consider River a friend, so I have some bias. That said this is not a rules infraction that should be that punitive. If a guy touches the sand in a bunker unintentionally and the camera catches it he is penalized one stroke, even if he subsequently signs an incorrect scorecard. Fishing needs to emulate other sports that have proven track records of success. There are intentional rules infractions that absolutely warrant disqualification, and in some cases banning. This was not one, and it cost the young man not just a potential high finish but potential sponsor dollars because of a high finish, or an AOY opportunity, We already have these "measured" penalties for unintended violations as you get a 1/2 pound or pound penalty for dead fish, there needs to be some common sense here.

One more thing, can the announcers not hear the anglers? I love on BASS when the angler starts talking the announcers quit, these guys continue to talk over the anglers, I'm not tuning in to hear the announcers...



nevermind

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Re: NPFL on Patman [Re: Hobbs McAvoy] #13971558 04/23/21 09:32 PM
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Pretty harsh for something that was not intended to gain an advantage. I agree with Hobbs though; if they're friends and know each other's tendancies, hearing that Yoder was struggling may have influenced Lee's decision making. Probably not, but it could have.


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Originally Posted by MagFluker
Donnie O'neil sittin near the top, Central Texas guy, fished a lot against him in the TTZ trails, rootin for him.




Was he was involved in some kind of on the water train-wreck drama a few years back?



Not sure, moved away from Texas 5 years ago.


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