But most work places will not allow you to even conceal carry. These guys couldn't even take cell phones into work.

Sikhs believe that human beings spend their time in a cycle of birth, life, and rebirth. They share this belief with followers of other Indian religious traditions such as Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism. The quality of each particular life depends on the law of Karma.Sep 24, 2009

Circle of Life.

I view those signs as suggestions. If I ain't getting patted down or going thru a detector, I am probably carrying.

ok, I am not risking my employment to carry at work.

concealed? how would anyone know?

Except the assailant?

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The conservative Texas legislature is working at this moment to get even more guns in the hands of even more nuts so even more completely innocent people can get gunned down. Soon Covid deaths will no longer be significant. We'll just kill each other off the quick way - gunshot. Let Covid take the vaccine-denying stragglers.[/quote]

fyi, our state legislature, gov. nor any other elected official has a thing to do with someone being able to buy/own a weapon. it is all federal. [/quote]
FYI the state legislature is voting to allow guns with no permit. They're elected officials passing legislation to set policy/law. I'd call that having something to do with it. Not federal in this case.[/quote]

FlippingOut: They are not "allowing guns" with no permit. One does not need a permit to own a firearm in Texas. What's being considered is whether to require a permit to legally carry concealed - applicable only to those who are legally allowed to possess said firearm in the first place. So, the legislation under consideration does nothing to change how many firearms may be owned by those qualified to own them, or how they acquire said firearms. The legislation only addresses the currently mandated permit to carry one of those firearms in a concealed manner. BTW, criminals already don't care, and carry anyway, so their numbers won't be changing.

Flippin-Out:

Please learn how to use the Forum. Your posts are confusing at best. Preview before posting and if your post doesn't make sense, fix it . . .

Posts? (as in plural?) I know how to use the forum and have commented thousands of times. I suggest that the operators of the forum join 2021 by removing the limitation of quoting anything more than 4 post levels deep. That's what blew up when I attempted to add a comment.

I did not feel like fixing what shouldn't have failed to start with. My main point was to alert the OP to the fact that his position was illogical.

Amen!

So, he had had his shotgun removed prior under Indy's Red Flag Law. I wonder if that put him on a no buy list, whether that no buy had a time limit, or just where he got his rifle from. I have a feeling that they just seized his shotgun in the prior event and didn't notify the feds to flag any future purchases.

We don't even enforce the laws we have.

I don’t know why the FBI was involved in the case other than his mother contacted them. However, Indiana’s red flag law is a a state law not federal and therefore it should have been the local law enforcement involved in that case. The Red flag law in Indiana is known as the “Jake Laird order” and when a judge signs a Jake Laird order, the order may be forwarded to the FBI as a NICS disqualifier to prevent the person from making future purchases from a licensed firearm dealer, provided that the order specifically prohibits the individual from purchasing, possessing, or acquiring firearms.

So there are lots of questions to be asked was the local law enforcement involved, if so was an order requested, if not why if they thought he was a threat and took his shotgun, if local law enforcement was not involved in the case why not, by what authority/right did the FBI have to take the shotgun if a order was not put in place, or was the shotgun voluntarily given up?

I would like to also know what are the requirements under an a order for a person to get their rights back.

In a related story, when I sing along with a tune on the radio and I sing the wrong words, I tell people the record made a mistake.