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 Re: Unhappy MLF Pro’s?
[Re: Big O Florida]
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03/31/21 11:19 AM
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J.P. Greeson
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Re: Unhappy MLF Pro’s?
[Re: J.P. Greeson]
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03/31/21 01:12 PM
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BigDozer66
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When I am buying something that requires me to deal with a salesperson, and part of the sales person's pitch is to bash his competitor, he has lost my trust. Let your product shine and focus on the good your company and product have to offer. I can't trust a guy who spends all his time bashing his competitor. 
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Re: Unhappy MLF Pro’s?
[Re: TxBazzn]
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03/31/21 02:31 PM
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TxBazzn
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From today's Bass Blaster 2. Y'all know I don't do rumors unless they pretty much aren't rumors – they just haven't been announced yet if you know what I mean. Well, word is there's gonna be a HIGHLY controversial MLF announcement in the next couple days about rules – maybe involving a bait or baits?? No more jerkbaits or dropshots please. All fish caught using forward facing sonar must be hooked in the mouth. Second guess: All Anglers must fish in an area with Cell coverage for ScoreTracker.
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Re: Unhappy MLF Pro’s?
[Re: TxBazzn]
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03/31/21 03:16 PM
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Big O Florida
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[quote=Monty Wright]From today's Bass Blaster 2. Y'all know I don't do rumors unless they pretty much aren't rumors – they just haven't been announced yet if you know what I mean. Well, word is there's gonna be a HIGHLY controversial MLF announcement in the next couple days about rules – maybe involving a bait or baits?? No more jerkbaits or dropshots please. All fish caught using forward facing sonar must be hooked in the mouth. Second guess: All Anglers must fish in an area with Cell coverage for ScoreTracker. Third guess: We want to be paid what we were led to believe we would be paid!
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Re: Unhappy MLF Pro’s?
[Re: TxBazzn]
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03/31/21 03:25 PM
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Second guess: All Anglers must fish in an area with Cell coverage for ScoreTracker.
Good assumption, would make sense after what happened at the last event. Could see that not being popular with the anglers and I don't like it either, that current impedance rule seems to be a more happy medium.
Last edited by SC-001; 03/31/21 03:27 PM.
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Re: Unhappy MLF Pro’s?
[Re: Big O Florida]
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03/31/21 04:02 PM
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BigDozer66
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No more jerkbaits or dropshots please.
All fish caught using forward facing sonar must be hooked in the mouth. Second guess: All Anglers must fish in an area with Cell coverage for ScoreTracker. Third guess: We want to be paid what we were led to believe we would be paid! You are speaking in 1st Person now!  That is something you have never done before!  So you would rather not get a check if you don't make the cut, ala Bassmasters, than to get a check, albeit a smaller one, even if you don't make the cut, ala MLF BPT? 
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Re: Unhappy MLF Pro’s?
[Re: J.P. Greeson]
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03/31/21 06:37 PM
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grandbassslayer
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When I am buying something that requires me to deal with a salesperson, and part of the sales person's pitch is to bash his competitor, he has lost my trust. Let your product shine and focus on the good your company and product have to offer. I can't trust a guy who spends all his time bashing his competitor. Well said.
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Re: Unhappy MLF Pro’s?
[Re: BigDozer66]
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03/31/21 06:52 PM
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Big O Florida
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All fish caught using forward facing sonar must be hooked in the mouth.
Second guess: All Anglers must fish in an area with Cell coverage for ScoreTracker. Third guess: We want to be paid what we were led to believe we would be paid! You are speaking in 1st Person now! That is something you have never done before! So you would rather not get a check if you don't make the cut, ala Bassmasters, than to get a check, albeit a smaller one, even if you don't make the cut, ala MLF BPT? Have any of you noticed something missing in all the photos of Ott post his last win? Something that typically is shown with prominence after every win by anyone. It all of a sudden disappeared from the post tournament pictures. To your question: I think the anglers want to be paid what they were led to believe they would be paid. All of them took a huge leap of faith based on some glossy pitch deck being shared by a dozen or so B.Duckett collaborators highlighting how their professional bass angling life will be improved by an order of magnitude if they quit something that’s proven stable and reliable. I think the anglers that moved over to MLF have experienced so much change that it doesn’t even closely resemble what they were led to believe it would be... and that includes the overall compensation.
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Re: Unhappy MLF Pro’s?
[Re: beartrap]
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03/31/21 07:40 PM
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I think the BPT / FLW / MLF gets smaller. Big money wants more big money. It’s just not in tournament bass fishing like it is in other sports. Relatively few people care about tournament bass fishing.
Quite a few unhappy but that’s pretty much been the case forever. It’s never going to be money like golf. Tough way to make a living. throughout the south,high school fishing is growing tremendously and participation has already far exceeded golf participation.....it stands to reason the parents and relatives of these kids are going to become fans of the sport....MLF with their acquisition of FLW has proved a tournament trail for high schoolers,college kids,beginning fishermen (Phoenix boat trail) plus tackle warehouse and toyota series of tounys....success in those trails will earn you a spot BPT and national TV exposure.... BASS has already tried to imitate MLF with their Fox sports coverage so it appears they are beginning to believe the future is going to be watching fishermen catch fish instead of walking across the stage and dumping fish on the scales... I dont really think so. Our high school has a pretty big team and I bet there is only 2 or 3 parents that seem like they actually tournament fish outside being a captain. The rest could care less about a tournament on any level. It may lead to more anglers thru the students but I dont think its having an effect on parents. I'm not sure about copying in the fox broadcast, MLF doesnt even have live TV coverage. Also, BASS already has a huge high school program as well so it's most likely a wash on most fronts for the leagues.
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Re: Unhappy MLF Pro’s?
[Re: Big O Florida]
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03/31/21 07:43 PM
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So what's missing in the pictures?
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Re: Unhappy MLF Pro’s?
[Re: the skipper]
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03/31/21 07:54 PM
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MagFluker
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So what's missing in the pictures? Yes, inquiring minds want to know...
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Re: Unhappy MLF Pro’s?
[Re: kscatman76]
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03/31/21 08:26 PM
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Big O Florida
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You would be correct. It’s interesting that stopped being a photo prop along with any mention of what entry fees and payouts are for the BPT circuit on its website. Compound that with all contacts being cancelled, it was announced entry fees were being imposed for 2021, and then everyone was rushed into signing a new single year contract many months before the start of the 2021 season; even before other leagues had concluded their schedules. I suspect some things are not living up to expectations, even after the contract re-write and frustration levels are increasing rapidly. Luke hinted at a large amount... it took the way more money carrot to move a large amount out of BASS... what else could it be to have so many anglers reportedly disgruntled? Follow the money!
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